Guild Wars 2

With the new trait system and the change to poison and burning came a lot of new condie builds, or heavily improved excisting ones. This led to a lot of people running more condi cleanses then they used to, and more often then not at the cost of a stunbreak of other usefull utility. When HoT made it’s entrance in the meta came a lot of new builds combining the elite specs to old builds, or new builds all together. Most of these builds have a lot of pulls, knockbacks, knockdowns, stuns and immobilizes. Now, it is verry hard to figure out what the other team is going to play, leaving you clueless wheter to go with condi cleanse or stunbreaks. I often opt for the condi cleanses, but then running into some heacy cc builds, you just lay on the ground a couple of seconds and youre dead. Usualy to knockdowns or stuns in combination with condition damage, sometimes with high flat power damage like 100 blades.

Everything in this game has had an upgrade in some form, but one of the things they left untouched forever is regen. Right now regen is one of the few boons that still doesn’t stack in intensity but in duration.(they made burning, poison, stability etc. stack intensity) Regen, with max healing power, only regens around 250-300 / sec. Now you can stack that duration for a long time, but with all the bursts of damage this game is now about, duration is completly useless. regen for 300 damage is equal to 3 bleeding stacks with mediocre condition damage (celestial for instance). Most classes have acces to a lot of random bleeds, poisons or other damaging conditions rendering regen completly useless at this point.

So here is my suggestion:
Make regen stack in intensity, but lower it’s multiplier (like they did with burning, although burning could be toned down a bit). This way you dont get massive healing bunkers. (for instance 20 stacks of regen x 300 healing = 6k/s wich is a bit too much, make it 20 stacks but have regen tick for 100 is only 2k/s) Right now the way condition removal works players can simply put some random condition on the oponent, they remove them, and when theyre out of removal you put a ton of bleeds/burning/confusion on them and they die very quickly, even if they are bunker build. Adding regen that stacks intensity counters some of the normal damage as well as condition damage, giving condition damage some form of counterplay without it getting out of hand. Most invurns don’t block condi damage for instance, if I play condi ranger and I see a warrior go invurnable I simply keep applying burns/bleeds on him and there is nothing he can do about it, and then he dies fast, while invurnable.

This ofcourse would need a lot of testing to figure out what numbers feel right on the stacks compared to the healing, but it could work out great! If you have any suggestions of your own, or why this would be a horrible idea please let me know in the comments!

Hope

Regen is op because thieves get it

I do think regen needs a nerf. how people would go about stacking regen though. Most classes that have access to it only have it for a few seconds at a time.

seems like a buff to guards and a nerf to everyone else, imo

I think in general I agree it should be done. But that would require the devs to go through all applications and tune them. As a mesmer for example, I can pretty much provide perma regen, but I am nearly unable to have 2 stacks at the same time (except boon duration giving some slight overlap).

So not impossible, but needs some work to reach a good status.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Regen is op because thieves get it

I do think regen needs a nerf. how people would go about stacking regen though. Most classes that have access to it only have it for a few seconds at a time.

seems like a buff to guards and a nerf to everyone else, imo

Thieves have no healing power and the regen isnt that long, if they want to hide in stealth to regen, let them. At least that way they cant cap points wich is where the game is all about.

Since it would no longer stack duration, you cant realy corner stack it before the game starts can you? It would run out before it would be usefull. As I said it would need a lot of testing to make it feel ballanced, but so does everything else. It would be a bit of a buff to bunkers, yes. But right now bunkers arnt arround at all, save for the occasional guardian. Minstrel amulet brought a lot of healing to the game, and people realy liked it. But it came with a bunch of toughness as well as vitality and that is what made healing feel op. Hitting close to nothing on a huge health pool was more powerfull then the fact druids could heal. the only thing theyre supposed to do . Now healing is not a thing at all anymore, and its a shame, it was fun!

Silverkey.2078:

I think in general I agree it should be done. But that would require the devs to go through all applications and tune them. As a mesmer for example, I can pretty much provide perma regen, but I am nearly unable to have 2 stacks at the same time (except boon duration giving some slight overlap).

So not impossible, but needs some work to reach a good status.

My point precisely! The thing is they realy want all classes to have acces to everything. But you can’t counter everything in one build. You should die when outplayed, not outbuild because certain classes counter other classes in the philosophy of all classes can do everything.

update:

I meant I DONT Think Regen needs a nerf.

I got so tied up in sarcasm that I ended up having a Freudian slip.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

update:

I meant I DONT Think Regen needs a nerf.

I got so tied up in sarcasm that I ended up having a Freudian slip.

So you’re saying let regen stack but don’t nerf the scaling to healingpower? I think that would be a bit to much, but I’m sure these things would get tested if the devs would ever give it serious thought.

LastHope.8127:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

update:

I meant I DONT Think Regen needs a nerf.

I got so tied up in sarcasm that I ended up having a Freudian slip.

So you’re saying let regen stack but don’t nerf the scaling to healingpower? I think that would be a bit to much, but I’m sure these things would get tested if the devs would ever give it serious thought.

direct access and outging/incoming sources would have to be looked at, yes, but it could open up some new builds.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

update:

direct access and outging/incoming sources would have to be looked at, yes, but it could open up some new builds.

Hopefully