Q:
Leveling in spvp? Please.......!
bump. anyone know the answer to if they have this planned or not?
They should have exp scrolls that can be bought with glory and maybe have a rank requirement.
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sPvP Rank Dragon – 8 Champ Titles – Ruby Division
I’d love to gain experience by doing Spvp.
Right now, if i want to level up a new character, i’m basically forced to stop doing Spvp altogheter, which is another thing that contributes to the huge and detrimental disconnect between Spvp and the rest of the game.
This would help bring more people into spvp but A-net doesn’t really seem to care. You add some kind of exp to spvp matches or even a purchasable item like Arc mentions and the ammount of people in spvp would explode. I really don’t see the downside.
Option to gain exp in pvp would definitely be fun and could also bring in additional $ for Anet because sales of additional character slots would propably take a slight positive hit.
‘’I really don’t see the downside’’
Netherwinter Online (a newer online game) got exploded with bots in PvP , farming exp + transforming their <<pvp glory>> to << Gems>> :P
If u have any idea to attach those in the daily pvp achiv , i dont have problem .
Or if u divide Soloque in 3 theoretical tiers (bronze-silver-gold) like league of leagends , and ppl from Gold tier gets some spare coppers + exp for winiing .
oh yeah would be cool
scrolls like:
1 Scroll = 5k glory
Deer Scroll = +2 level
Dolyak Scroll = +4 level
Wolve Scroll= +6 level
Tiger Scroll = + 8 level
Bear Scroll = + 10 level (and this is max)
this alone would make spvp much cooler and make new players not thinking they waste their time
this characters would still have to explore the open world when go pve and dont feel like a noob when go wvw with ransacker title and get owned from whatever^^
(edited by Romek.4201)
Allow players to buy scrolls of experience with laurels.
Allow players to buy scrolls of experience with laurels.
If u combinw ur idea with the Romek.4201 , and they reduce the rank grid in the future , it would be a perfect system :P
maby can sell this scrolls in auctionshouse too – so PVPers could make gold^^
maby can sell this scrolls in auctionshouse too – so PVPers could make gold^^
I would trust the scrolls would be so cheap that there wouldn’t be much profit in it. 1 laurel a scroll seems reasonable considering you’d need 80 laurels to go to 80 and then an addition 150 to gear the character out with ascended gear. But yea, buying them would be nice too
would think it sell maby 1g per lvl – something like this
atm you can lvl in pve your char for gold too from 1-80 with jeweller cooking and all this
so ye 1-10g per scroll is fine (bear scroll) cause its just 5k glory
and when its only half so 50s per lvl than you would get 1g per 1k glory and think thats fine
There should be a way for pvpers to gain pve xp and pve exotic 80 items as well.
Anet failed on removing the xp from beta. In beta you gained xp for spvp kills. We need something like that to exist again.
Pvp and pve should not be so separate, reward wise.
maby can sell this scrolls in auctionshouse too – so PVPers could make gold^^
I would trust the scrolls would be so cheap that there wouldn’t be much profit in it. 1 laurel a scroll seems reasonable considering you’d need 80 laurels to go to 80 and then an addition 150 to gear the character out with ascended gear. But yea, buying them would be nice too
This is a good suggestion too!
I’m just bumping this in hopes that anyone might have heard if Anet intends adding xp to spvp for the 2nd half of 2013?
I really think it would inject a lot of new players into spvp. At least I know it would for me.
Glory for experience scrolls is an awesome idea.
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Before asking for exp scrolls or whatever for glory remove hotjoin already…or the actual zerg glory farming-fest is going to be even worse…farmers belong to pve, time to kik them out of pvp once and for all…pvp rewards belong to those who actually play good not just everyone zerging like an idiot ganking random stuff around..
(edited by Archaon.6245)
why is it an problem for people like you mr Archaon when other people have fun with something you dont like?
sry but not people having fun in hotjoin is a problem in this game – it is people thinking like you
because hotjoin was meant to teach new pvp players how to play before going in tpvp but totally failed @ this since there’s nothing about team work, tactic or whatever in hotjoin, it’s just a 24/7 unskilled zerg giving a kitten bout cap, backup, defending and everything else related to teamplay. And letting ppl farm glory and honour while playing like brainless chickens is definately stupid already…giving aven more rewards for doing that would be just nonsense. Exp scrolls and stuff are fine…but you should deserve them, free cookies for hotjoin heroes are going to ruin good pvp even more..
While I do agree, that XP and gold from PvP would be nice, I suspect people who suggested that army of bots will emerge are right. Currently we have everything we need for doing PvP properly and we have a separate reward system. Once you tear down the veil forums will be full of people crying (and rightfully so) that half of team are bots and other half are premades. I have been in a game like that and I don’t want to go there again. Considering this I would advice against any sort of transferrable benefit (except AP ofc).
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While I do agree, that XP and gold from PvP would be nice, I suspect people who suggested that army of bots will emerge are right. Currently we have everything we need for doing PvP properly and we have a separate reward system. Once you tear down the veil forums will be full of people crying (and rightfully so) that half of team are bots and other half are premades. I have been in a game like that and I don’t want to go there again. Considering this I would advice against any sort of transferrable benefit (except AP ofc).
I want to understand this argument. How is it that you think bots will be any less taken care of in spvp than what happened to them in pve? If anything, they will get banned much faster, because when you are expecting an enemy and there is no pve environment to run to, you are going to be reporting right away.
But I could be missing something here, so help me out if I’m off base; it’s certainly possible that I am.
Edit: Actually, if you limited it to straight xp for your character, or account bound xp scrolls, that should remove all botting motivation, no?
(edited by petespri.6548)
I love this idea. I can use the 100,000+ gory (yes, I go mean gory..cuz getting it ain’t so glorious.) I have to ultima level may already lvl 80 so they can hyper gather skill points for legendary and/or rarer exotics…..oh, wait…maybe that’s why they don’t do this.
If you add experience scrolls, next you have to add gold scrolls for all those who have now leveled, but have no gear and for those happily already on lvl 80 across all their preferred’s. Taking gold out of something that doesn’t sell directly back into the in game economy is unstable..hence why gems were removed.
Just say’n
Before bringing in such fancy rewards you are all crying about, A-Net should actually fix Hotjoin and it’s absurd rewards that are completely harm teamplay and reduce the competitive scene since release. More or less what Archaon said earlier.
Before asking for exp scrolls or whatever for glory remove hotjoin already…or the actual zerg glory farming-fest is going to be even worse…farmers belong to pve, time to kik them out of pvp once and for all…pvp rewards belong to those who actually play good not just everyone zerging like an idiot ganking random stuff around..
why is it an problem for people like you mr Archaon when other people have fun with something you dont like?
sry but not people having fun in hotjoin is a problem in this game – it is people thinking like you
because hotjoin was meant to teach new pvp players how to play before going in tpvp but totally failed @ this since there’s nothing about team work, tactic or whatever in hotjoin, it’s just a 24/7 unskilled zerg giving a kitten bout cap, backup, defending and everything else related to teamplay. And letting ppl farm glory and honour while playing like brainless chickens is definately stupid already…giving aven more rewards for doing that would be just nonsense. Exp scrolls and stuff are fine…but you should deserve them, free cookies for hotjoin heroes are going to ruin good pvp even more..
+1 for ark
this is so true and tbh needed to be addressed months ago.
it should be that a rank 10 is able to play in a ranked match, but by getting rank10 in hotjoin you dont learn a single usefull thing for ranked matches.
so the actual hotjoin zergfest is – as stated – absolut cancer for the pvp scene.
its not about glory nor is it about the custom arenas – but being put by default on zergfest ist just wrong in case of l2p pvp.
so this needs a fix before talking about something to do with glory.
no gutz no glory
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so plz read the suggestion again – ppl can sell the scrolls in ah to get gold^^
this dont bring NEW gold in the economy it just transfer it from some pve people to pvp people
@Archaon
Your postings are not even worth to read
edit: just see some postings while i posted
Hotjoin was not mean to teach people – it is just to have fun and people can play pvp in casualmode – ya know? how pvp is in most mmorpgs
stop triing to be so elitism and think cause YOU farm SoloQers with your team in tournaments you are better than other players.
maby – just maby -think about most people dont care for e-sport and wannabe tournaments and a broken leaderbord and so on and what YOU accomplish in this game, to think you are more worth than other playerz, is nothing for the most part of the playerbase gw2 have and you live in a illusion.
no your leaderboard rank make you not a superhero to have all rewards linked to you and ONLY to you
get it?
be happy you have your leaderboard rank for tournament only – thats all you need
btw. most people in this game dont even know there is a leaderboard
have a nice day
(edited by Romek.4201)
oh yeah would be cool
scrolls like:
1 Scroll = 5k gloryDeer Scroll = +2 level
Dolyak Scroll = +4 level
Wolve Scroll= +6 level
Tiger Scroll = + 8 level
Bear Scroll = + 10 level (and this is max)this alone would make spvp much cooler and make new players not thinking they waste their time
this characters would still have to explore the open world when go pve and dont feel like a noob when go wvw with ransacker title and get owned from whatever^^
I don’t really like the Idea, but those scrolls are way too cheap, how long do you
think you need to get 5k glory?
how long you think you need to get 2 level in pve? or 1 gold?
numbers are not fix and arenanet can do this better cause they have the statistics – it should only show the idea
have a nice day
Well if it’s not too long, I don’t really see the problem :P
And btw lvl’s don’t even matter as much as gear imo.
Well whatever, a nice day to you too.~
The problem with hotjoin is not it’s absurd, abyssal niveau of play-level, but the rewarding itself for playing it. This has nothing to do with elitism if smn says tournament should be more rewarded than hotjoin. Tournament needs stricly organized teamplay, it needs strategical effort and has much more depth. Hotjoin on the other hand is for fun or casual players, who want to play 2-3 games a day. That’s absolutely fine. The problem overall is the distribution of rewards/points.
Casual-modes should never be more rewarding than competitive-modes. Compare that to a nurse and a medical deputy. A nurse should never earn more money than the deputy. This analogy shows you clearly, what is wrong with hotjoin at the moment. I hope you got it by now, Romek. The bad habbits you’ll get from hotjoin are just a side-effect and don’t bother me really.
Company realease a new map > tPvP community denies it
Ppl join hotjoins > tPvP commnity get upset
Company will realease new rewards in tPvP, that u can use in PvE > tPvP community wants everything handed to them in a silver plate , but cant comprehed that hotjoin rewards cannot be used in PvE and they want to destroy an incentive for ppl that dont want conquest to shove it their throat
Sounds like a great idea. They should also award 15 rank/glory for every WvW kill, 50 for every lord kill, 20 for every WvW objective cap/decap, 25 for every yak kill, and of course points for spamming the treb and cannons.
Hundreds of instant dragons and thousands of phoenix who have never set foot in sPvP seems fair. Why shouldn’t they get sPvP rewards for not doing sPvP?
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Would love this.
The problem with hotjoin is not it’s absurd, abyssal niveau of play-level, but the rewarding itself for playing it. This has nothing to do with elitism if smn says tournament should be more rewarded than hotjoin. Tournament needs stricly organized teamplay, it needs strategical effort and has much more depth. Hotjoin on the other hand is for fun or casual players, who want to play 2-3 games a day. That’s absolutely fine. The problem overall is the distribution of rewards/points.
Casual-modes should never be more rewarding than competitive-modes. Compare that to a nurse and a medical deputy. A nurse should never earn more money than the deputy. This analogy shows you clearly, what is wrong with hotjoin at the moment. I hope you got it by now, Romek. The bad habbits you’ll get from hotjoin are just a side-effect and don’t bother me really.
That’s your opinion.
In my opinion both casual modes and organized modes should be rewarded, but differently. Casual modes usually reward individual skills and are actually less time eaters than organized team modes, that does not mean that they shouldn’t be rewarded as much as organized teamplay. Notice I’ve used the word organized instead of competitive, because, think what you want, but they are competitive too.
So the main mistake in my opinion is that tournaments and hotjoin share the same rank system, that’s all.
atm you get more rank/glory in tournament when win the game but …. some people jsut never will be happy
i bet this guys will soon write the same here about the soloQ – something like “mimimimi why they get rankpoint and glory in soloQ. im a teamplayer im cooler i should atleast get double”
man
rankpointz show only how much time you played any mode in spvp – not how good or bad – only how MUCH
glory is only used for …. nothing
i just dont understand how someone can so much care about even when no mode get more than the other
NO in tournaments should not be more rewards than in hotjoin – only thing what would be ok something like leaderboard reset all 3 months and some special title for the top 10 or something. And thats it.
(edited by Romek.4201)
im a teamplayer im cooler i should atleast get double
More likely “I’m a teamplayer and it’s way harder for me than ganking random noobs in hotzerg, so i definately need way greater rewards than hotjoin” but seems you finally got the point after all..
There should be a way for pvpers to gain pve xp and pve exotic 80 items as well.
Anet failed on removing the xp from beta. In beta you gained xp for spvp kills. We need something like that to exist again.
Pvp and pve should not be so separate, reward wise.
They could always give karma, that way you can acquire gear all the way up to exotic quality but none of it could affect the ingame economy/used by bots to make money