Guild Wars 2

This will be a thread to list the benefits of having a combined queue for Stronghold, TDM, and Conquest.

I’ll start:

• “________”

• and of course “_______”

• How could I forget “__________”

Feel free to list the ones you found too!

some people will no longer have a tough decision about whether or not to keep playing this game.

/thread

I can list you some pros(still would prefer separate queues):

• More queues would split the community even further, and therefore increase either the time you spent in the queue or it would reduce the match quality / increase the span of the MMRs each participating player has.

• Variety: You will not get bored from only playing one stronghold map over and over again / this might also disguise the fact, that there (given the current information) will only be one stronghold map.

• It will force players to adjust their setup depending on the map they get.

If you are doing poorly you can say your build was for a different game mode. Yes Johns.

Teutos.8620:

I can list you some pros(still would prefer separate queues):
snip!

All valid points, but I too would prefer separate queues, for a simple reason: Stronghold will suck in the beginning! It’s brand new, it won’t have been adequately tested, and it won’t be ready for prime time! It needs a “test season” and tweaking before it can get taken seriously as a competitive map. Putting it in the conquest queues will prevent adequate testing from happening for 2 reasons:
a. If you put it in conquest queues, people will mostly play with conquest comps. Therefore, if, due to a weakness in the map design, some build comps are seriously overpowered in Stronghold, this won’t show up in the data, as a combined queue won’t encourage people to find those comps and try their hardest to break the game. (Sure, some people will switch to another character that they’ve got set up for Stronghold, but these will be a tiny minority.) So the map’s weaknesses will fly under the radar. Then they’ll have some kind of Stronghold tourney, with cash prizes, and of course a team running a cheesy build will take it and everyone will complain because how have they not noticed something so blatantly broken, etc.
b. If Stronghold has an equal chance of coming up as any of the COnquest maps, they’ll get far less data than they need to spot any obvious problems with the map.

Not to mention it’s gonna be annoying for people who have been looking forward to a new game mode and really want to try it to get 5-6 Conquest maps in a row instead when they try to play! Even if they love Conquest it would annoy most people if what they want to do is try out the fun new shiny thing they’ve been waiting SO LONG for!

Teutos.8620:

I can list you some pros(still would prefer separate queues):

• More queues would split the community even further, and therefore increase either the time you spent in the queue or it would reduce the match quality / increase the span of the MMRs each participating player has.

• Variety: You will not get bored from only playing one stronghold map over and over again / this might also disguise the fact, that there (given the current information) will only be one stronghold map.

• It will force players to adjust their setup depending on the map they get.

Aren’t they already splitting the population up by including Stronghold in the x-pac?

manveruppd.7601:

I too would prefer separate queues, for a simple reason: Stronghold will suck in the beginning! It’s brand new, it won’t have been adequately tested, and it won’t be ready for prime time! It needs a “test season” and tweaking before it can get taken seriously as a competitive map.

Agree. I don’t think custom arenas can fulfill that purpose. Maybe Stronghold will be the only map available on the hot beta?