Guild Wars 2

just tried a few matches today and i feel like playing hotjoin. nobody seems to know even the most basic things about pvp.
people suiciding 1v3, people jumping around at far without getting a kill or decap mostly dying there, bunkers leaving close unprotected, people ignoring sec objectives or focussing so kitten them they give up all the points, people running around trying to score kills, chasing one person in a group over the whole map, duocapping points and moaning about your low score as bunker when you alone defend at least one point against 2 or 3 people constantly half the match.
i guess those people were in unranked because they would have been slaughtered by any mediocre team. every match i had was a total blowout, either for them or us depending solely on who had at least 2-3 people that knew the very basics on how to play conquest and who didn’t.

please, give us back ranked. or any kind of pvp scrubs are afraid to enter so we can play proper matches. i haven’t been playing pvp since release just to to play with or against people that have barely played 10 games.
i’d pay gold or even cash just to enter a que where i can actually play pvp instead of that insanity that’s going on right now.

You are just seeing the broken matchmaking at work. The algorithm is built in a way that it doesn’t match people of even skills together very well.

Having the separate ranked queue hid a lot of those problems. The reason is that more of the better players queued there. It gave you a better chance of a good match.

I’m really wondering how leagues will work once they start.

You realize MMR is separate for ranked and unranked? So if you only played ranked and got up to pro level you will still be placed at newb lvl on unranked.

Gotta win some matches before you start seeing better people.

ah, i didn’t know that. thanks for clarifying. however, i don’t really want to play unranked to be honest. apart from the slightest chance of playing “those maps” i already waded through that filth once, i don’t want to do it again.
since i now know why my matches are so awful i’m just gonna quit pvp for the time being. anet should adress this and bring back competitive pvp back asap.

I’ve surprisingly only gotten a couple newish players in unranked. That said… all the kiddos are asleep at midnight XD

I’m not sure how the mmr-matchmaking works now. I was under the assumption that it still averages a team’s mmr. Meaning, a veteran player with high mmr can be on a team of lower (newbie) mmr players.

I’ve been on a full noobie team against another noob team with maybe 1 veteran player. Couldn’t complain because it was technically a fair match…

i get what you’re saying. the matches i have had were everything but fair, tho. in both directions. either i (+ eventually someone else) was just farming people from left to right or i had my team being slaughtered 4v3 or even 4v2 while i was dealing with the rest mostly on close.
it’s also not mainly about the fairness. i can deal with it if i have more decent players against me. i might lose, that’s fine. what botheres me the most is that you can’t play a “proper” match with newbies. all the basic tactics, holding points, rotating, plus 1 rotations, objective splitting and all the stuff that makes pvp actually fun can’t be done. it’s either splitting up to all 3 points because everybody seems to think they can 1v2 or it’s just a zerg moving from left to right. basically it’s like hotjoin. exactly like hotjoin. without the teamswapping tho. an hotjoin is something i haven’t done for a very good reason for 2.5+ years now.
that is IF the matchmaking works with the average mmr. however, i have never seen people play like that in ranked before. statistically i should get such players on my team every now and then, i doubt every new/bad player is afraid to step in ranked. that’s why i think mightybird is right and the mmr is seperated.

that doesn’t adress the problem though. if this theory is true then every ranked player (that didn’t care much for unranked) is exempt from playing at his or her level as they’re used to. sure, everybody could just adapt and farm through the lower mmr (which seems more difficult nowadays now that the chance of winning is kinda random) but why should we have to? what is the point of locking ranked now? it has been available off season for months. what is suddenly the problem with it?
will it be like that every time off season? if so i might just completely quit right now since i would have to expect being kept from doing proper pvp every few weeks/months. or is it just a one time thing?
anet, information, pls.

I wish theyed bring back hot join for new players and ppl to test their builds- and keep ranked for those who are really great team players – I have avoided PvP since the change- I always get teamed with newbies, I have 4 champ titles and tribal set- I know im not a horrible player so I why do I(we) get punished going against organized teams when I just want to Solo play like how it used to be – add the better matchups in with it though (like there ever were any to begin with) I am a PvPer not a PvEer but I’ve been stuck doing pve (eck) because it literally drove me out with always going against really great organized teams.

There is something amusing about playing a game against a guy who hasn’t learned the basics of conquest one game and someone like Magic Toker the next. (Although I suppose Toker did sorta usually play Unranked when he was solo queuing before the lock).

SnowHawk.3615:

I wish theyed bring back hot join for new players and ppl to test their builds- and keep ranked for those who are really great team players – I have avoided PvP since the change- I always get teamed with newbies, I have 4 champ titles and tribal set- I know im not a horrible player so I why do I(we) get punished going against organized teams when I just want to Solo play like how it used to be – add the better matchups in with it though (like there ever were any to begin with) I am a PvPer not a PvEer but I’ve been stuck doing pve (eck) because it literally drove me out with always going against really great organized teams.

Custom arenas still exist

Give us standard models in unranked if we are forced to do unranked…

Bloody asuras…