Guild Wars 2

In general, what do you guys do when your team loses the mid fight? Do you go back, or do you try for far? Does it depend what class you’re on?

For every match I lose, I assume I could have made a difference if only I had done something else. Right now, if I see that everyone is dead at mid initial fight, I don’t want to add my body to that list, so I go far.

The problem with that is that you’re essentially ceding control of mid for the entire match. And holding mid gives you a vantage point allowing you to move quickly between points and also see what’s happening. But if they have people guarding in, you’re an idiot to try and take it.

So what do you guys generally do on which class? Assume solo q and no coordination with teammates…

The key is not to feed the zerg. What I see teams doing regularly is losing mid, then running back in 1’s and 2’s to die.

Better to regroup and go where the enemy isn’t. To paraphrase Tsun Tsu; to be invincible, attack where the enemy is weak, defend what is not attacked.

In general losing the mid fight and what you do does depend on a couple things. Losing Mid fight on Foe Fire is a huge loss as you can imagine the points are very close together. So considering the map, your class and how your enemys play style is makes the difference.

If your enemy seems zergish, quickly aiming for points the enemy team isn’t naturally rotating to, or protecting the points you have because you know they are coming there, is often the best method.

Also its important to recognize what lost the mid fight. Is your team out dps’d, does thier DPS outweigh your damage or sustain abilities? Or was it just simply a matter of being outmanned that lost the team fight. These are important clues to your personal decisions.

the key is that you send your thief to far to decap it, then you retreat to close if you have it and some people to far, depending on enemy rotation. while you retreat you try not to die. respawn goes to where it’s needed to even out fights or to regroup and prepare an assault.

When I see mid fight being lost, I usually go to the far point to decap. But it all depends on the situtation. Where do you think you can do to contribute the most?

See the problem is that a lot of semi-newish players always say… home and mid! We need home and mid. I’ve seen a ton of people just throw themselves at home all game and get farmed.

The real answer is that you need two points. Doesn’t matter which two. Rotate to the best fights.

@OP: There is no simple answer. It depends.

While I would agree with a lot of the people above that there is no set in stone answer, I tend to ask my team to move to close and regroup. If we’ve been wiped, one or two kitteny players on the enemy team will attempt to take close. If you can get your team to close and kill those players, you can then move to mid and have a numbers advantage.

PS. I can never get my team to do this. Team normally gets staggered so the rest of the match is virtually a 4v5 and I get called a noob. Yay yoloq.

It depends on situation, if at the same there is pressure on far you can try to disengage and going far to help.

In general try always to avoid a full wipe. Survive as long as you can. Disengage if you’re getting to much pressure. And don’t fight in 200 on node. It’ useless.

You try again if you feel your team is capable of winning, and only lost the initial engagement out of poor luck or a preventable mistake.

You change plans if you got molly-whopped without putting up a fight.

Either way, take the information regarding the opposition you’ve gained from the initial fight and construct a strategy that exploits a discovered weakness or protects your exploited weakness. At the very least you should have an idea of who’s the squishiest DPS threat and who in your team if any is most capable at creating an opening to take them out and gain the early numbers advantage like you would for any team fight on on any point.

What you don’t do is spread out across 3 points and hope someone wins a fight before someone else loses theirs and the other team starts snowballing the rest of you off the map.

Edit:

Re: the significance of Mid Point – generally speaking centralized positions offer the most access to the rest of the map which offers the main advantage of shorter rotations and faster responses to enemy attacks – as well as potential vantage points for observing enemy movements. That being said, it’s generally the most heavily contested which brings a set of requirements for maintaining control. If your team comp doesn’t possess those requirements then an alternate approach is probably advisable. For instance, if the enemy team is firmly entrenched in the middle position then it makes more sense to attack a lesser guarded point which will force them to leave the mid point, shifting teammates to defend your attack. Then Mid becomes the lesser defended point and easier to retake. Essentially, winning the fight at a secondary point can offer a chance to take mid for yourself. This is what playing side points is all about – a less direct approach to taking mid.

Simply put: as a general rule Mid is always the best option. And since Conquest only requires that you hold two points longer than your team opponents, it does’t matter which second point you take (either home or far) – once you have mid, you have the luxury of having access to both – I typically opt for whichever’s easiest at that time.

Blame the four individual on your Team side. or brag about how pathetic and stupid they are doing such. i mean really? giving your opponent an easy 5points?. or Step up your game so that everyone is happy.

hackks.3687:

You try again if you feel your team is capable of winning, and only lost the initial engagement out of poor luck or a preventable mistake.

You change plans if you got molly-whopped without putting up a fight.

Either way, take the information regarding the opposition you’ve gained from the initial fight and construct a strategy that exploits a discovered weakness or protects your exploited weakness. At the very least you should have an idea of who’s the squishiest DPS threat and who in your team if any is most capable at creating an opening to take them out and gain the early numbers advantage like you would for any team fight on on any point.

What you don’t do is spread out across 3 points and hope someone wins a fight before someone else loses theirs and the other team starts snowballing the rest of you off the map.

Edit:

Re: the significance of Mid Point – generally speaking centralized positions offer the most access to the rest of the map which offers the main advantage of shorter rotations and faster responses to enemy attacks – as well as potential vantage points for observing enemy movements. That being said, it’s generally the most heavily contested which brings a set of requirements for maintaining control. If your team comp doesn’t possess those requirements then an alternate approach is probably advisable. For instance, if the enemy team is firmly entrenched in the middle position then it makes more sense to attack a lesser guarded point which will force them to leave the mid point, shifting teammates to defend your attack. Then Mid becomes the lesser defended point and easier to retake. Essentially, winning the fight at a secondary point can offer a chance to take mid for yourself. This is what playing side points is all about – a less direct approach to taking mid.

Simply put: as a general rule Mid is always the best option. And since Conquest only requires that you hold two points longer than your team opponents, it does’t matter which second point you take (either home or far) – once you have mid, you have the luxury of having access to both – I typically opt for whichever’s easiest at that time.

That’s a great response. Thank you!