Guild Wars 2

MMR really needs to be overhauled as the only thing it looks at is whether the person wins or loses and what is there current pip range.

Saying that a person has low MMR because they “lost” is an extremely undefined broad statement. Some people lose because they aren’t good, or that they have bad internet, or they are trolling, or any other manner of random variable which can make a person “lose”.

MMR doesn’t even focus on the points scored in a match. The algorithm which calculates MMR can’t even tell if a person who lost a match, lost because they got outplayed by the opposing team? Or is this a person who lost because they stood afk at the start. They are all the same thing.

If you want to say “well they cant let points in a match affect MMR, then they could just manipulate the points in the match by capping/de-capping points to get a high score.” Well that would at least let you weed out people who d/c or are afk. Secondly they could overhaul the point system as well so capping points don’t add to your score, only kills do or only capping points and holding them for a certain amount of time gives any points.

By not differentiating why people win or lose and factoring in those extra variables, we get a very bland stale sPvP season where people TRY to get better and are paired with people who troll/afk ect. and then they give up because the system isn’t even remotely reflective of a players skill level.

This is why people say “getting legend doesn’t mean anything” Because the algorithm for MMR isn’t advanced enough and needs to take into account other variables rather than just win/loss and pip range.

S3 is simply S2 MMR Hell part 2. For me it’s been 3 matches and 3 losses. Just horrible match making.

So with S1 games would go:
win > loss > win > loss > win > loss

S2 went :
win > win > win > win > win > loss > win > win > win
or if you have bad MMR:
Loss > loss > loss > loss > loss > win > loss

and now S3 is a mixture of the 2 skewed towards S1, so if you have high MMR:

win > loss > win > loss > win > win > win > win > loss > win > loss > win > loss

and with Low MMR:

win > loss > win > loss > loss > loss > loss > win > loss > win > loss > win > loss

and since they don’t reset MMR between seasons, if you start getting into a losing pattern/streak, there is almost no point in playing this season or ANY OTHER season to come forever.

guess form a team is the only way and that’s such a different way of playing SPvP, you might as well be playing a different game.

and In case anyone’s wondering I was Legend x2 last season and I still think this system is bad.

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

So with S1 games would go:
win > loss > win > loss > win > loss

S2 went :
win > win > win > win > win > loss > win > win > win
or if you have bad MMR:
Loss > loss > loss > loss > loss > win > loss

and now S3 is a mixture of the 2 skewed towards S1, so if you have high MMR:

win > loss > win > loss > win > win > win > win > loss > win > loss > win > loss

and with Low MMR:

win > loss > win > loss > loss > loss > loss > win > loss > win > loss > win > loss

and since they don’t reset MMR between seasons, if you start getting into a losing pattern/streak, there is almost no point in playing this season or ANY OTHER season to come forever.

guess form a team is the only way and that’s such a different way of playing SPvP, you might as well be playing a different game.

and In case anyone’s wondering I was Legend x2 last season and I still think this system is bad.

7 losses straight, that’s it and they were blow outs. So say again?
oh, and now matched with a premade.

MMR is probably fine. They probably should have just reset it for this season. All the people that got carried previous seasons now have higher MMR than they should.

Day one and it’s already started. Fear not, I have a solution: evenly distribute crappy players on both teams!

R O C.6574:

Day one and it’s already started. Fear not, I have a solution: evenly distribute crappy players on both teams!

You mean have teams being balanced??? <gasp> Yes, that’s how it should be instead of this Trolltopia the Dev’s devised. Heck, in school gym class it always used to be Team 1 picks and then team 2 picks, this way the teams were balanced and fun.

That’s way too logical.

DeWolfe.2174:

R O C.6574:

Day one and it’s already started. Fear not, I have a solution: evenly distribute crappy players on both teams!

You mean have teams being balanced??? <gasp> Yes, that’s how it should be instead of this Trolltopia the Dev’s devised. Heck, in school gym class it always used to be Team 1 picks and then team 2 picks, this way the teams were balanced and fun.

Yeah, and how did that work out in highschool gym? You find the nerdiest weediest player on the other team and you single them out, shove them around til they’re sidelined and give up playing. Or their own teammates will continue passing the ball to the same 3 people and never let the 2 anywhere near it since they’re useless.

Given a choice, everyone wants teammates of similar level to themselves. So you’ll get the 5 players vs another team of top players. You get a team of 5 medium players against another team of 5 medium players. And then you get a team of the 5 weakest against another team of the 5 weakest.

If it works out, the top players duke it out over 1st and 2nd. The mediums duke it out over 3rd and 4th. And the weakest duke it out over 5th and 6th.

Ayrilana.1396:

MMR is probably fine. They probably should have just reset it for this season. All the people that got carried previous seasons now have higher MMR than they should.

And many many people have a lower mmr than they should hence why not resetting it is a huge mistake.