Guild Wars 2

I can’t break this spiral. lost 40 games in a row, won 1, lost 20. yesterday. Dropped a division and a half.. today I’m down another 1/4 division. Every kitten game. Doesn’t matter what gets switched up. We can be owning till 2 seconds before the end when one of our teammates will decap a point…and then stand next to it. While we only need 1 point. I suck at life, and can’t get my most basic burst to land, hell even on the practice dummies it’ll do the animation, but not cause damage. I just took dishonor because it’s not fair to my teammates for them to lose their MMR because my rating is such crap now. I went from winning about 60% of matches, to losing all of them. In a snap. Had some legendary players that I know from seasons past are good look at my playstyle, and they said I’m doing things right just have really really crap luck. If I wait a day or two will that reset my matchmaker so I can actually have a chance again?

I was going to suggest you take a break and maybe bounce around a bit it could be the time you were playing at causing a lower number of players to select from.

Hence a loss streak. I am relieved it wasnt a loss streak of 40 in a row though

Are you solo queuing? If so, that’s the issue…

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

also maybe in the next 4 year you can even try to not put always double guardian , double teef , double war etc etc in the same team
#I WANT TO BELIEVE

Ahaha I got a phase like this as well on my thief, those 9 defeat in a row are terrible….The only thing to do is stop playing for a while or change classes. Thief is that hellish class that brings you to the bottom if you are not focused on your role and only this….

My solution was to get my mesmer and play a build I was confident would crush team fights. I’m almost back to my original position. Since I want to play thief again, I’m started not considering leaderboard, just enjoyed playing my thief. I played 4 games on him and won 4 of them tonight

Wargameur.6950:

Ahaha I got a phase like this as well on my thief, those 9 defeat in a row are terrible….The only thing to do is stop playing for a while or change classes. Thief is that hellish class that brings you to the bottom if you are not focused on your role and only this….

My solution was to get my mesmer and play a build I was confident would crush team fights. I’m almost back to my original position. Since I want to play thief again, I’m starting to not considering leaderboard, just playing my thief. I played 4 games on my thief and won 4 of them

Hahah yeah, Mesmer with proper portal use has great map control and can turn games around quickly. I was going to suggest that to

pelle ossa.9705:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

also maybe in the next 4 year you can even try to not put always double guardian , double teef , double war etc etc in the same team
#I WANT TO BELIEVE

Valid, before throwing away OPs thread because u stated some numbers, why not address the major issues with ur game.

It is the mmr, it is bs at times (it works for some but not for me). Not balancing classing or player skill. last 10 matches where a nightmare. 1 win 9 loses. 2 Matches fun the rest a TOTAL waste of time.

Evan saying it working as plan just shows anet blind to the problem people been kittening about for years. It better that last season but still broken. Your mixing experienced pvp in with new pvper that are being carried. And posting his rating is kind of rude. Anet should have balance classes not a fav of the month.

And so what if he had a dense set of wins, so your saying the mmr failing players for winning in a row will let to pointless matches in a row that are unwinnable.

There little that can be done when u always putting a totally dead weight player on a team.

Vicariuz.1605:

pelle ossa.9705:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

also maybe in the next 4 year you can even try to not put always double guardian , double teef , double war etc etc in the same team
#I WANT TO BELIEVE

Valid, before throwing away OPs thread because u stated some numbers, why not address the major issues with ur game.

What about the major issues with OP’s Thief? I’ve seen plenty of thieves taken down DH at half health and backcap points with ez. Even against a multi Guard comp. OP, can you do that?

With that many games lost @ his record that Evan gave, it’s clear something is not working out with the op.

Thank you Evan Lesh for the statistics. Hope to see more of these in the future!

As of now I’m at 1137. I guess I have lost count of losses… since every loss costs more than a win. I’ve lost 52% of my games now as opposed to winning 58%. I tried dragonhunter for a couple matches but if I think I’m a crap thief… i’m a worse dh.

Link.1049:

As of now I’m at 1137. I guess I have lost count of losses… since every loss costs more than a win. I’ve lost 52% of my games now as opposed to winning 58%. I tried dragonhunter for a couple matches but if I think I’m a crap thief… i’m a worse dh.

You’ll be a better DH because of the skill floor between the two classes. In this way, you’ll pick up DH quicker and learn the class’s weakness’s and strengths. Find a thief who can beat you and find out how he did it.

Saiyan.1704:

Vicariuz.1605:

pelle ossa.9705:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

also maybe in the next 4 year you can even try to not put always double guardian , double teef , double war etc etc in the same team
#I WANT TO BELIEVE

Valid, before throwing away OPs thread because u stated some numbers, why not address the major issues with ur game.

What about the major issues with OP’s Thief? I’ve seen plenty of thieves taken down DH at half health and backcap points with ez. Even against a multi Guard comp. OP, can you do that?

With that many games lost @ his record that Evan gave, it’s clear something is not working out with the op.

Thank you Evan Lesh for the statistics. Hope to see more of these in the future!

I didnt say everything OP said was gods word. From the GARBAGE queues I’ve seen today, I don’t doubt theres a lot left to be learned for OP’s thief. That doesnt change the fact that more than 50% of the time there are stacked classes in the match, with players who think most kills matters.

You know you probably wasted about an hour of Evan Lesh’s time.

Time that could have been spent to make the game better.

Instead spent fact checking your lies.

Ryan.9387:

You know you probably wasted about an hour of Evan Lesh’s time.

Time that could have been spent to make the game better.

Instead spent fact checking your lies.

debatable. it took how long to get this season?

And I end out tonight a couple matches above bronze. Ouch. Evan… I don’t know if you ever play… but if you’re not worried about me wrecking your mmr I’d love to schedule an hour of play with you.

As an update… now winning 44.8% of my games. Tried dh for a bit. I am terrible at it. Went back to thief, won one, then had another player dc. Played with a friend for a bit, which saved me from dropping to bronze tonight.

Link.1049:

As of now I’m at 1137. I guess I have lost count of losses… since every loss costs more than a win. I’ve lost 52% of my games now as opposed to winning 58%. I tried dragonhunter for a couple matches but if I think I’m a crap thief… i’m a worse dh.

Can you record? Im not gonna suggest you post somewhere, but rather, take the time after each match and look at your recording. It always helps me to re-watch and analyze my own matches.

The skill-rating you are at, profession and perfect teamcomp arent as important as lots of players like to believe. Problems arise usually from players being bad, not from comp being bad.

Ryan.9387:

You know you probably wasted about an hour of Evan Lesh’s time.

Time that could have been spent to make the game better.

Instead spent fact checking your lies.

I dont think that time was actually wasted. And I kinda think Evan Lesh knows how to spend his time himself ^^

Link.1049:

As an update… now winning 44.8% of my games. Tried dh for a bit. I am terrible at it. Went back to thief, won one, then had another player dc. Played with a friend for a bit, which saved me from dropping to bronze tonight.

Ug ya,

Had a couple games where enemy was crushing us with double guard+mes comp and then people started lagging and enemy started DCing. We won by a sliver and it was kinda lame but I didn’t care because I was losing too many games at that point.

Saiyan.1704:

Vicariuz.1605:

pelle ossa.9705:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

also maybe in the next 4 year you can even try to not put always double guardian , double teef , double war etc etc in the same team
#I WANT TO BELIEVE

Valid, before throwing away OPs thread because u stated some numbers, why not address the major issues with ur game.

What about the major issues with OP’s Thief? I’ve seen plenty of thieves taken down DH at half health and backcap points with ez. Even against a multi Guard comp. OP, can you do that?

With that many games lost @ his record that Evan gave, it’s clear something is not working out with the op.

Thank you Evan Lesh for the statistics. Hope to see more of these in the future!

I can drop DH at half health… often from full health too if I can burst him unaware. One of the wins tonight was against a 4 DH 1 thief comp. Yes, balance could be improved…a lot as I’m sure Evan can see in the stats about who’s playing what and can likely see a HEAVY lean towards DH this season. It is frustrating though that each time you get paired with a team that blows your mind on how things went south so avoidably, your next team is most likely to make your last team seem amazing.

Also… one bug on the map with the clock tower… ranger managed to blow me back INTO the wall. Not dead. Cask of Amontillado style locked in prison with no escape. On the side nearest the pipes.

I haven’t recorded matches yet, but did run with some friends that are higher tier for a bit. They’re saying it’s just really, really bad luck. Went to 1v1 arena and practiced while some observed as well. Again, being told that I’m running my build well, just running into really bad teams.

i am in bronze hell at the moment i was almost silver the last few days . then yesterday i dropped into the 700s didn’t think that was possible to drop has much has i have but i am sinking faster and faster. to be honest i like last season more because of how that matches.when i found out how many pve players were starting to pvp for ascended gear made it so i just do not care anymore. i honestly thought i would get better but seems i am getting worse..i thought the mmr was ment to put you in teams with the same skill level but i do not think thats true team mates do things that i would never do and they shouldn’t do. zerg, forget about beasts or buffs fight off point list goes on and on

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

This is just straight out insulting. It is your very balancing team that brought classes to the state that thief can’t do much w/o decent team not to mention class stacking leads to every team having 2-4 DHs/wars. Why should players be punished for poor decisions made by developers? How could you say such thing to him?

Shadowstep.6049:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

This is just straight out insulting. It is your very balancing team that brought classes to the state that thief can’t do much w/o decent team not to mention class stacking leads to every team having 2-4 DHs/wars. Why should players be punished for poor decisions made by developers?

While i see class stacking as a gigantic issue, at the Moment DH, Reaper and Berserker are in so many matches because almost every player plays them.
This wouldn’t be solved with class stacking removed though.
If 10 players are in a queue and 8 out of those 10 play DH, what would removing class stacking solve in that scenario?

And again, this is not against removing class stacking, i would love that, but at the same time we need a gigantic balance patch to rework and rebalance a lot of things for the core classes, the elite specs, a lot of weapon skills etc.
And then if and when we see a more diverse spread of classes played we actually can remove class stacking.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Of your 132 post placement matches, you peaked at 1413, bottomed at 1140, and have a win/loss of 63/69. Your longest losing streak is 9 games after a dense set of wins. I’m not seeing anything wrong with this. Perhaps you’re just having an off day.

I understand the hyperbole because you’re likely frustrated, but it doesn’t help when discussing feedback for leagues.

Can’t wait for the next person complaining they don’t belong in their placement and seen after that some statistics and hard numbers! I need a stach of popcorn!

LouWolfskin.3492:

Shadowstep.6049:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

This is just straight out insulting. It is your very balancing team that brought classes to the state that thief can’t do much w/o decent team not to mention class stacking leads to every team having 2-4 DHs/wars. Why should players be punished for poor decisions made by developers?

While i see class stacking as a gigantic issue, at the Moment DH, Reaper and Berserker are in so many matches because almost every player plays them.
This wouldn’t be solved with class stacking removed though.
If 10 players are in a queue and 8 out of those 10 play DH, what would removing class stacking solve in that scenario?

And again, this is not against removing class stacking, i would love that, but at the same time we need a gigantic balance patch to rework and rebalance a lot of things for the core classes, the elite specs, a lot of weapon skills etc.
And then if and when we see a more diverse spread of classes played we actually can remove class stacking.

It would result in a longer q for those clases and therefore allow other classes a faster q.

This rises the total number of other classes, because they can play more games in the same time.

At the same time it makes overpowered classes managable – because there is just one

If you want matchmaker to prevent profession stacking, then you can only have one build per profession. Its that simple. Its either “byebye build diversity” or profession stacking.

Tiefsee.3647:

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Can’t wait for the next person complaining they don’t belong in their placement and seen after that some statistics and hard numbers! I need a stach of popcorn!

I fail to see the interesting part in those statistics. Interesting would have been seeing the MMR of Links’ teammates and of the enemy team of the matches he lost. Not just a vague “might have had a bad day” conclusion.

Id have been really impressed by some in-depth evaluation, but I gave up on that after season1, when all we got was some percentage numbers without the data behind it.

So yeah, fail to see the interesting part worth popcorn.

Yasi.9065:

If you want matchmaker to prevent profession stacking, then you can only have one build per profession. Its that simple. Its either “byebye build diversity” or profession stacking.

Tiefsee.3647:

(…)
Can’t wait for the next person complaining they don’t belong in their placement and seen after that some statistics and hard numbers! I need a stach of popcorn!

I fail to see the interesting part in those statistics. Interesting would have been seeing the MMR of Links’ teammates and of the enemy team of the matches he lost. Not just a vague “might have had a bad day” conclusion.

Id have been really impressed by some in-depth evaluation, but I gave up on that after season1, when all we got was some percentage numbers without the data behind it.

So yeah, fail to see the interesting part worth popcorn.

Sure, more dates meanmore fun – but at some dates give some fun

Tiefsee.3647:

LouWolfskin.3492:

Shadowstep.6049:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

This is just straight out insulting. It is your very balancing team that brought classes to the state that thief can’t do much w/o decent team not to mention class stacking leads to every team having 2-4 DHs/wars. Why should players be punished for poor decisions made by developers?

While i see class stacking as a gigantic issue, at the Moment DH, Reaper and Berserker are in so many matches because almost every player plays them.
This wouldn’t be solved with class stacking removed though.
If 10 players are in a queue and 8 out of those 10 play DH, what would removing class stacking solve in that scenario?

And again, this is not against removing class stacking, i would love that, but at the same time we need a gigantic balance patch to rework and rebalance a lot of things for the core classes, the elite specs, a lot of weapon skills etc.
And then if and when we see a more diverse spread of classes played we actually can remove class stacking.

It would result in a longer q for those clases and therefore allow other classes a faster q.

This rises the total number of other classes, because they can play more games in the same time.

At the same time it makes overpowered classes managable – because there is just one

I know what removing class stacking in general would do.

But the current situation, well… “current” it’s been like this since HoT came out, just doesn’t suggest it would go over so smoothly if it was implemented suddenly.
Especially since hyperbole incoming the WHOLE playerbase seems to be obsessed with the best, most awesomest meta-build they can find.

Also i think that there are other things that would keep an ideal situation to occur with this: We need a huge balance patch so that everything feels like it’s on even footing with drawbacks and rewards to certain playstyles.
Class dailies should be removed (shouldn’t be a thing in ranked but even with the, in my opinion, way better quality of rounds we still see people aiming for them).

And even THEN people would still gravitate to easier builds and few classes out of what we have available, worst case they’d even start complaining that the class they want to join as would take longer to get into a round than others.

Hell, even in games that have systems to prevent class stacking, let’s say a hero selection at the start of a round, you see people salty about not being able to play their character of choice and, yes, throwing rounds because of it.

Again, i’m not against the removal of class stacking.
After some of my rounds i’d love it if a “balanced” party was guaranteed.
I just don’t see it working out that well as things are.

Addendum: Biggest issue in any regard, by the way, is the horrid mentality of the playerbase.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

Question is there anything in the match making to not let games like this happen?

I can post a few of these, i dont have the map kitten but i have a screen print of I playing ele and us having 3 DH’s and 1 switched to warrior and the 2 other DHs were bunker DHs.

Its not even me, i play ele for support if the team needs or i can play warrior.

Yet im getting 3 necros, 3dhs 3 thieves on my team and a majority of time none of them will switch.

kdaddy.5431:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

Question is there anything in the match making to not let games like this happen?

I can post a few of these, i dont have the map kitten but i have a screen print of I playing ele and us having 3 DH’s and 1 switched to warrior and the 2 other DHs were bunker DHs.

Its not even me, i play ele for support if the team needs or i can play warrior.

Yet im getting 3 necros, 3dhs 3 thieves on my team and a majority of time none of them will switch.

supposedly according to white knights you will be on 3 dhs team eventually vs 3 thieves teams

(happens a lot to me and i have yet to see 3 thieves on enemy team in ranked in my entire 6k+ matches, i guess i didn’t play enough yet)

kdaddy.5431:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

Question is there anything in the match making to not let games like this happen?

I can post a few of these, i dont have the map kitten but i have a screen print of I playing ele and us having 3 DH’s and 1 switched to warrior and the 2 other DHs were bunker DHs.

Its not even me, i play ele for support if the team needs or i can play warrior.

Yet im getting 3 necros, 3dhs 3 thieves on my team and a majority of time none of them will switch.

That would be class stacking and the mentality to switch ones character can hardly be boiled down in an algorhythm.
It’s a player issue, sadly.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

Also, I play full zerker FA core ele in Platinum with scholar runes , yet I can’t climb higher just because I play this build and all other builds are easier, more rewarding and more brainless to play, yet whenever I lose a match, people tend to report me. I should switch up my play as well? Well, had a game against 3 druids 1 warrior, and a mesmer yesterday, while we had the core FA ele, a guard, a thief, an engineer and a revenant, guess who lost? ‘’oh, you want to burst me? let’s give myself protection and you, the bursting class, some weakness aye?’’ You see, with that game, 1 death was enough for a complete snowball, as in Foefire, Druids can rotate insanely fast and support the other Druids when needed.

Sorry Evan, but your argument doesn’t make any sense…. though the guy probably deserves to be at where he is, since top tier thieves are able to carry games.

Octaslash.9437:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

Also, I play full zerker FA core ele in Platinum with scholar runes , yet I can’t climb higher just because I play this build and all other builds are easier, more rewarding and more brainless to play, yet whenever I lose a match, people tend to report me. I should switch up my play as well? Well, had a game against 3 druids 1 warrior, and a mesmer yesterday, while we had the core FA ele, a guard, a thief, an engineer and a revenant, guess who lost? ‘’oh, you want to burst me? let’s give myself protection and you, the bursting class, some weakness aye?’’ You see, with that game, 1 death was enough for a complete snowball, as in Foefire, Druids can rotate insanely fast and support the other Druids when needed.

Sorry Evan, but your argument doesn’t make any sense…. though the guy probably deserves to be at where he is, since top tier thieves are able to carry games with their duo pro league teammates playing broken builds.

fix’d

LouWolfskin.3492:

kdaddy.5431:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

Question is there anything in the match making to not let games like this happen?

I can post a few of these, i dont have the map kitten but i have a screen print of I playing ele and us having 3 DH’s and 1 switched to warrior and the 2 other DHs were bunker DHs.

Its not even me, i play ele for support if the team needs or i can play warrior.

Yet im getting 3 necros, 3dhs 3 thieves on my team and a majority of time none of them will switch.

That would be class stacking and the mentality to switch ones character can hardly be boiled down in an algorhythm.
It’s a player issue, sadly.

Im just asking a question to see if they can see who is paying what class.

Ive been posting alot of screen prints lately to show hey its not just me noticing that 1 player who seems lost. Or hey you put 3 bunker DHs on my team before 1 switched. Or hey you have put me on a 3 thieves team 3 times.

Im all for if you want to say this is where i belong but i have questions.

Shadowstep.6049:

kdaddy.5431:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Also all those games are on thief, maybe you could switch up your play a bit and then come back to thief.

Question is there anything in the match making to not let games like this happen?

I can post a few of these, i dont have the map kitten but i have a screen print of I playing ele and us having 3 DH’s and 1 switched to warrior and the 2 other DHs were bunker DHs.

Its not even me, i play ele for support if the team needs or i can play warrior.

Yet im getting 3 necros, 3dhs 3 thieves on my team and a majority of time none of them will switch.

supposedly according to white knights you will be on 3 dhs team eventually vs 3 thieves teams

(happens a lot to me and i have yet to see 3 thieves on enemy team in ranked in my entire 6k+ matches, i guess i didn’t play enough yet)

I wouldnt care if its unranked or hot join.

But its ranked and i have a rating and i was gonna fight for a top 250 spot and then the ship came crashing down with games like that.

Once again im ok not making the top 250 but i want to know why i cant see my team mates rankings, the other team rankings (badge wise), i want to know why i keep getting the 2 necro 2 thieves on my team when i que up as a warrior, i want to know why very few people at this rank are not able to play more then 1 class or even be good at 1 class.

For instance there is 1 thief on the 3 thief team that ive only had losses with. Would never say this person is the reason why but man when you go threw a 2-3 day stretch where you see this thief on the other team and win and then get him on your team and lose. I simply want to know this persons ranking to try and understand why.

When i had a pair of ESL players on my team we won 500-100. I gain 13, when i played a duo of the former number 1 player in NA i lose 18.

See i just want to understand. I get it i got 3 thieves 1 game and get slaughtered. And you are right i got 3 Dh’s literally 2-3 games later but 1 switched to warrior and the other 2 were bunkers. So i just have a question about MM that is explained not by white knights.

Nightshade.2570:

Hahah yeah, Mesmer with proper portal use has great map control and can turn games around quickly. I was going to suggest that to

It’s even more simple than that, my build on mesmer is no brain ( or at least it has become for me ), it is played a bit like a thief in a way that you should avoid taking damages.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQJARWnknBNqhtfCmpBEgiFcjqMAWtfxcBChRqOWr1cF-TZBFABEcBAA4RAg0+DOcEAEvMAA

- advantages :

1) The AOE burst is insane and can wipe an entire team or at least waste all their stun break.

The combo is : gravity well -> continuum split ( on gravity well aftercast ) -> well of pain -> greatsword #2 – 3 – 4 -> shatter #1 -> dodge -> shatter #2

and do it again, if both gravity wells get in it’s 6 sec of CC ! It works well on necro in the first team fight.

2) Great against DH to disable their trap with clones

3) On demand stability and blind, extremely useful if you count the number of people that don’t secure stomps….

- drawbacks : weak to condi and a small frame of vulnerability

I feel the pain… I lost like 7 to 8 matches (I didn’t want to count anymore) and went down like 170 rating simply due to being placed with pve placement people who had no idea what was going on.. (those 8 matches only 2 were close games which I could perhaps of did a bit more but I was on necro…pretty hard to carry on a necro) I remember saying when I was losing 25 points per lose it is I didn’t deserve this (I was getting pretty low.. on a game you should be having fun lol) as it clearly was not a ME issue when no one spoke you.. can clearly see people not listening to chat while the other team simply stomped the teams I was on.

My placement matches before this were very great games and gave me the wrong impression of this matchmaking thinking things had changed I won 6:4 (the 4 loses I was unlucky with matched players) the best games I ever had was the first two days of start of league and I was finally excited to play fun competitive games where I wasn’t even upset of the possibility of losing since they were so close proper games) The 6 wins I had highly coordinated teams which gave me the confidence to keep moving which im going to assume is in the higher tiers of spvp which even made me play better. Started in upper gold tier 2 and now barely staying in gold tier 1 simply due to me being scared and waiting for the pve people to clear out and mellow the volatility of match maker hoping I can finally climb to where I personally think I belong which is at least lower to mid platinum. I really hope some hotfix can be added mid season to combat issues but I know that wont happen.

Played seasons 2 to 4…. 2 I did fairly well in.. to then do moderate in season 3…. and then season 4 I basically gave up that was the worse ( didn’t even bother was stuck in sapphire from ending previous seasons in platinum.) as I was stuck with very bad players stuck in sapphire lowest tier unable to move forward.. which is funny as im feeling the same player quality of people dying in 2 seconds and not knowing what to do in spvp) however for season 4 I did wait almost a month to play it which probably didn’t help my situation as all the good players went up higher.

Evan do you know what kittened me off with this season. I started in bronse lmao I always get leg ranking. I am rank like 300 close 3k pvp games. But when I did my first 10 games I had to carry had some of them with d/c and even the wins we got it was from me carrying and when we lost it was because some people just can’t be carried. So when I started in bronse I get like 10 points a game and need 100 wins to get my rightful place at top. I will go there and I will make sure I take top spot! But I have to grind so much to get there and take these esl bananas of there spots. Why even tho my first 10 games where fail u still put me In bronse lmao who did I kitten off? Is it a account thing or char thing for mmr because I made a new the for looks but it’s unfair for the people I fight to get farmed by me. Yes I loose games still but as I said some games u can not carry all u can do is own and get it a close game. I do not understand who this all works I just want hard games vs hard people with a good team Inc about loosening I just want good pvp.

Link.1049:

I can’t break this spiral. lost 40 games in a row

Evan Lesh.3295:

Your longest losing streak is 9 games
I understand the hyperbole because you’re likely frustrated, but it doesn’t help when discussing feedback for leagues.

I really wish players would stop exaggerating stuff. Its misleading and just helps feed other people’s paranoia/conspiracy theories.

Thanks Evan for checking the facts and letting us know OP multiplied his loss streak by over 4X.

Will have to mentally adjust every stat he posts from now on. LOL

Evan lawyerd the OP. kitten lmao. Gotta respect him for that atleast.

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

Evan lawyerd the OP. kitten lmao. Gotta respect him for that atleast.

Actually, I don’t respect him for that.

See, if we could analyse Evan’s work, code and decisions in detail such as Evan did the OP’s, then I am 100% sure we’d also be able to trash his decisions.

So, using Evan’s power to access to the OP’s personal data in order to reply in such a…condescending/patronizing way is nothing to bask in. Imo.

I’d aplaud Evan if he analysed his own decisions like that or better yet, if he gave us all the data concerning his decisions, coding and stuff, so that we could be as….thorough as he was about the OP.

Or if Evan would admit there are (plenty of) issues with the MMR, the matchmaking and the classes.
Because from the way he posts, he comes across as a “better-than-thou” guy.

Bio Flame.4276:

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

Evan lawyerd the OP. kitten lmao. Gotta respect him for that atleast.

Actually, I don’t respect him for that.

See, if we could analyse Evan’s work, code and decisions in detail such as Evan did the OP’s, then I am 100% sure we’d also be able to trash his decisions.

So, using Evan’s power to access to the OP’s personal data in order to reply in such a…condescending/patronizing way is nothing to bask in. Imo.

I’d aplaud Evan if he analysed his own decisions like that or better yet, if he gave us all the data concerning his decisions, coding and stuff, so that we could be as….thorough as he was about the OP.

Or if Evan would admit there are (plenty of) issues with the MMR, the matchmaking and the classes.
Because from the way he posts, he comes across as a “better-than-thou” guy.

Treat others how you want to be treated I believe is a common philosophy…. Not sure if you had the privilege of meeting Link in-game.

Oh, I am not defending the OP. He seems to have…let’s say..exagerated his losses.
So not much sympathy for him there.

But that’s no excuse for an ANET Dev to reply in that condescending tone.
I repeat: if we could analyse Evan’s decisions and coding as thoroughly as he did and if we used the same tone as he did….it wouldn’t be a pretty post, would it?

I mean, it’s not like PvP is very good and balanced at the moment so maybe Evan should show a little me more…restraint.

Bio Flame.4276:

Oh, I am not defending the OP. He seems to have…let’s say..exagerated his losses.
So not much sympathy for him there.

But that’s no excuse for an ANET Dev to reply in that condescending tone.
I repeat: if we could analyse Evan’s decisions and coding as thoroughly as he did and if we used the same tone as he did….it wouldn’t be a pretty post, would it?

I mean, it’s not like PvP is very good and balanced at the moment so maybe Evan should show a little me more…restraint.

+1

His posts have definitely strayed into unprofessional territory lately.

Crowley.8761:

Bio Flame.4276:

Oh, I am not defending the OP. He seems to have…let’s say..exagerated his losses.
So not much sympathy for him there.

But that’s no excuse for an ANET Dev to reply in that condescending tone.
I repeat: if we could analyse Evan’s decisions and coding as thoroughly as he did and if we used the same tone as he did….it wouldn’t be a pretty post, would it?

I mean, it’s not like PvP is very good and balanced at the moment so maybe Evan should show a little me more…restraint.

+1

-1

“I understand the hyperbole because you’re likely frustrated, but it doesn’t help when discussing feedback for leagues.”

Have to agree with Evan. Falsified statistics only makes it more difficult for the Devs and it wastes their time.

I don’t see anything “unprofessional” in his posts. But I guess it’s still 2016, so someone just had to be offended.
I personally very much prefer some personal answers and opinions over either nothing (cough WvW cough) or just plain boring business speach every time he answeres someone. Devs are human like you and me and they are allowed to make jokes as well.
Keep it up!

Bio Flame.4276:

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

Evan lawyerd the OP. kitten lmao. Gotta respect him for that atleast.

Actually, I don’t respect him for that.

See, if we could analyse Evan’s work, code and decisions in detail such as Evan did the OP’s, then I am 100% sure we’d also be able to trash his decisions.

So, using Evan’s power to access to the OP’s personal data in order to reply in such a…condescending/patronizing way is nothing to bask in. Imo.

I’d aplaud Evan if he analysed his own decisions like that or better yet, if he gave us all the data concerning his decisions, coding and stuff, so that we could be as….thorough as he was about the OP.

Or if Evan would admit there are (plenty of) issues with the MMR, the matchmaking and the classes.
Because from the way he posts, he comes across as a “better-than-thou” guy.

Ofcourse a developer is not gonna just spread all of his decisions all of his data to you. that makes no sense. Why would a developer release such important information on a medium that is accesible by litterally anybody in the modern world including rival companies or those with ill will. That is the dumbest thing u can do. Evan kindly released the facts. He even acknowledged that this is frustration likely and that no ill will was meant behind the op’s reasoning. He also acknowledged the thiefs relatively high skill floor as a possible reason. the thing is we don’t need people spreading lies and even further damage this game’s pvp reputation.