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Posted by: Matty.1953

Matty.1953

Don’t know if most mesmers do this but it’s just part of my muscle memory now.

If you sheath your weapon just after the third tick of damage on your GS auto attack, and then recast the skill, you can cut off the after cast and dramatically increase your dps output. It’s very good for chasing fleeing opponents

Here’s an example of me using the technique in a ranked game:
http://plays.tv/video/55ceba292acc9b1d2d

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Posted by: eksn.7264

eksn.7264

You can also sheath cancel the after cast of Mind Stab to recover faster.

Noz

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Posted by: Sunflowers.1729

Sunflowers.1729

You can also use it to bait people (on all classes). Everyone dodges the Illusionary Berserker wave-sword-in-a-circle animation but if you cancel before the phantasm goes off it goes on a short CD and they just wasted a dodge. It’s especially good on powerful long-CD abilities since people will always want to dodge them (good skills to use it on are moa, phantasms, cloak and dagger.etc)

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Posted by: Matty.1953

Matty.1953

You can also use it to bait people (on all classes). Everyone dodges the Illusionary Berserker wave-sword-in-a-circle animation but if you cancel before the phantasm goes off it goes on a short CD and they just wasted a dodge. It’s especially good on powerful long-CD abilities since people will always want to dodge them (good skills to use it on are moa, phantasms, cloak and dagger.etc)

Yeah, I’ve been trying to incorporate skill cancels a lot more recently (think I type that in chat in the video lol)

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Posted by: Matty.1953

Matty.1953

You can also sheath cancel the after cast of Mind Stab to recover faster.

Yup, I do that too

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Posted by: Matty.1953

Matty.1953

In fact, I’ve got some dueling footage that really showcases this playstyle! I’ll upload it now [watch this space]

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Posted by: Matty.1953

Matty.1953

Okay! Here are two:

http://plays.tv/video/55cecce1f2bcc7d0e3

http://plays.tv/video/55cecbcd55d337816f (pretty much toying with this guy)

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Posted by: Liam McColgan.7689

Liam McColgan.7689

Stow/draw weapon is nothing new dude.
People have been using (abusing?) it for years now, especially mesmers because of their long post cast animations for their GS skills. It is also pretty standard thing to do in any mmo pvp, as fake casting is an easy way to bait cds and dodges. Granted some people might not know this, but if you read these forums, you probably watch tourneys/streamers, in which 90% of mesmers will use stow weapon to reduce cast times and to fake cast.

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Posted by: Menzies The Heretic.3415

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Okay! Here are two:

http://plays.tv/video/55cecce1f2bcc7d0e3

http://plays.tv/video/55cecbcd55d337816f (pretty much toying with this guy)

This guy is basically spamming his skills. He uses mind stab on a blocking engi, he doesn’t set up spikes. He instantly uses Phase Retreat trough Chaos Storm for Chaos Armor while the engi is just running around,
Facetanking random kitten.

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Posted by: Liam McColgan.7689

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Okay! Here are two:

http://plays.tv/video/55cecce1f2bcc7d0e3

http://plays.tv/video/55cecbcd55d337816f (pretty much toying with this guy)

This guy is basically spamming his skills. He uses mind stab on a blocking engi, he doesn’t set up spikes. He instantly uses Phase Retreat trough Chaos Storm for Chaos Armor while the engi is just running around,
Facetanking random kitten.

I only watched the second one, but yes he did ‘spam’ alot of skills, and wasted alot of spikes (GS 5 when engi was blocking or no where near) but then again double ranged shatter is more sustained than stealth bursting with s/t. I don’t know. Mes is so op you dont even have to be amazing to win duels now. This is nothing amazing.

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(edited by Liam McColgan.7689)

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Posted by: abc.5790

abc.5790

I remember eles abused stow/draw on lightning whip to bug extra heals from signet. That was so annoying, moreso than what mesmers do.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

That is not new …<_<

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Posted by: Jurica.1742

Jurica.1742

That has been a known “trick” for years.

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Posted by: Liam McColgan.7689

Liam McColgan.7689

Don’t lie Jurica, you only found this out y’day.

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Posted by: Jurica.1742

Jurica.1742

kitten it, why do you always have to ruin my awesome totally cool epic posts?
Much sad, very tear now..

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Posted by: Matty.1953

Matty.1953

Okay! Here are two:

http://plays.tv/video/55cecce1f2bcc7d0e3

http://plays.tv/video/55cecbcd55d337816f (pretty much toying with this guy)

This guy is basically spamming his skills. He uses mind stab on a blocking engi, he doesn’t set up spikes. He instantly uses Phase Retreat trough Chaos Storm for Chaos Armor while the engi is just running around,
Facetanking random kitten.

I only watched the second one, but yes he did ‘spam’ alot of skills, and wasted alot of spikes (GS 5 when engi was blocking or no where near) but then again double ranged shatter is more sustained than stealth bursting with s/t. I don’t know. Mes is so op you dont even have to be amazing to win duels now. This is nothing amazing.

I didnt spam anything. I use shatters for damage or damage mitigation. But I did waste skills, which is smt Im trying to cut down on. When I used skills when the engi was nearby and I missed GS 5, that was cos he used his mobility at the same time. So calm down. People miss stuff

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Posted by: Matty.1953

Matty.1953

Okay! Here are two:

http://plays.tv/video/55cecce1f2bcc7d0e3

http://plays.tv/video/55cecbcd55d337816f (pretty much toying with this guy)

This guy is basically spamming his skills. He uses mind stab on a blocking engi, he doesn’t set up spikes. He instantly uses Phase Retreat trough Chaos Storm for Chaos Armor while the engi is just running around,
Facetanking random kitten.

Fair on the mind stab, that’s a mistake. Once again, I don’t spam skills, but it’s not like you care/believe anyway. The chaos storm though, now you’re being unfair, because it was actually for a stupider reason. I meant to throw it on his body, and spazzed my mouse and completely missed him, and then phase retreated for clone generation and chaos armor just to try and make up for it.

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Posted by: witcher.3197

witcher.3197

This is a something everyone does since 2012.

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Posted by: Menzies The Heretic.3415

Menzies The Heretic.3415

Okay! Here are two:

http://plays.tv/video/55cecce1f2bcc7d0e3

http://plays.tv/video/55cecbcd55d337816f (pretty much toying with this guy)

This guy is basically spamming his skills. He uses mind stab on a blocking engi, he doesn’t set up spikes. He instantly uses Phase Retreat trough Chaos Storm for Chaos Armor while the engi is just running around,
Facetanking random kitten.

Fair on the mind stab, that’s a mistake. Once again, I don’t spam skills, but it’s not like you care/believe anyway. The chaos storm though, now you’re being unfair, because it was actually for a stupider reason. I meant to throw it on his body, and spazzed my mouse and completely missed him, and then phase retreated for clone generation and chaos armor just to try and make up for it.

I tried to rewatch the video’s, but I guess they have been deleted.

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Posted by: Sifu.9745

Sifu.9745

Video has been deleted: And i don’t understand what op wants to say. I really have no idea what the word “sheath” means? English is not my mother’s language.

Anyway Mesmer GS aa is completely bugged: i get some huge numbers if i just channel auto attack for 10 + seconds on a training dummy: starts with something around 900 dmg per first hit and after that every other hit i get increased numbers, something like 1280 – 2200 – 3400 – 4000 -5000 -……-12000! Lol. 12k with aa??? What are these numbers? I’m sure they are not damaging numbers, otherwise i would kill anything within seconds just with auto atttacking it.

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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

Video has been deleted: And i don’t understand what op wants to say. I really have no idea what the word “sheath” means? English is not my mother’s language.

Anyway Mesmer GS aa is completely bugged: i get some huge numbers if i just channel auto attack for 10 + seconds on a training dummy: starts with something around 900 dmg per first hit and after that every other hit i get increased numbers, something like 1280 – 2200 – 3400 – 4000 -5000 -……-12000! Lol. 12k with aa??? What are these numbers? I’m sure they are not damaging numbers, otherwise i would kill anything within seconds just with auto atttacking it.

That is the total amount of damage. The game will keep ticking up the number provided all your hits occur within a certain time frame(and I think are from the same skill), which the GS auto attack does. Because of this, you can just auto attack forever to see the damage counter go up and up. It is not the damage of each hit, just the total amount of uninterrupted damage done with the auto attack.

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

I remember eles abused stow/draw on lightning whip to bug extra heals from signet. That was so annoying, moreso than what mesmers do.

Lulz.

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Posted by: Kharr.5746

Kharr.5746

Ele stow-cancelled lightning whip for ultra heals and super high dps. It got patched.

Necro stow-cancelled Axe #1 for wimpy damage. It got patched anyway.

How long do we think this is going to stay before it gets patched? Aftercast on skills is there for a reason. It’s part of how the skills are balanced and designed. If the devs intended for there to be no aftercast, they could just set the aftercast time to 0 for a particular skill. This will eventually get patched too.

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Posted by: Archaon.9524

Archaon.9524

Don’t know if most mesmers do this but it’s just part of my muscle memory now.

If you sheath your weapon just after the third tick of damage on your GS auto attack, and then recast the skill, you can cut off the after cast and dramatically increase your dps output. It’s very good for chasing fleeing opponents

Here’s an example of me using the technique in a ranked game:
http://plays.tv/video/55ceba292acc9b1d2d

wow much news, above decent ppl used to do that since like…forever lol

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

Nova Stiker.8396

So why is stowing weapon a hot key in PvP?

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

MithranArkanere.8957

They have fixed quite a lot of those, but there’s still too many around.

Hope they can find the time to streamline the fix all across the board.

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