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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

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Echo of Memory: The recharge of this skill will now begin when Time Echo’s effect ends.

Persistence of Memory: The cooldown reduction of this trait has been reduced from 2 seconds to 1 second.

Mental Defense: The recharge of this trait has been increased from 25 seconds to 30 seconds.

Well of Calamity, Well of Action, Well of Recall, and Well of Precognition: The visual effects of these skills have been restored to their original state for the player. The previous effects are now used as the lower level-of-detail versions.


Personally I thought that whole OP shield/phantasm mechanic took away much of what made Mesmer fun (and tricky) to play.

Buuut will it be playable now vs the crazy post HoT power creep? I know some shatter players were running torch before condi Mes exploded, but will it be viable?

On the flip side, Rev will be less punishing to them… but thieves aren’t going to have a hard time…


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Posted by: Curunen.8729

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I hope not too many players flock back to torch. I kind of liked being in the minority of players using torch since HoT while most used shield.

Shield nerf is very good and justified, I like that.

Mental Defence is a weird nerf, but not a big deal – I haven’t logged in to check but assuming the utility skill cool down has also been raised to 30s?

Persistence of Memory again assumes and reinforces the mandatory use of elite spec with Shield 4, Chronophantasma and alacrity. But this is no big deal since I already accept core only builds are a thing of the past and as more elite lines are released they will become necessities.

But overall the changes don’t bother me at all.

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Posted by: Ghede.9145

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u can try destroyer and dolyak with old build mb … or go carrion and something else
.. get some lifesteal on weps.. whatever, lotsa options ^^

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Posted by: apharma.3741

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It’s sad that all these core traits are getting nerfed for this one elite spec leaving them mostly useless outside of that.

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Posted by: mrauls.6519

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I dont understand the shield change. What does it mean?

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Posted by: witcher.3197

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Patch is a joke. Just slap on a wanderer amulet and you’re as good as ever. See you in season 4, when hopefully Anet guts this aids.

u can try destroyer and dolyak with old build mb

Destroyer is a horrible idea in general.

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Posted by: King Cephalopod.7942

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I dont understand the shield change. What does it mean?

It probably means the skill recharge doesn’t start until the channeling/ability is finished. Like guardian spirit weapons.

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Posted by: Ghede.9145

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Patch is a joke. Just slap on a wanderer amulet and you’re as good as ever. See you in season 4, when hopefully Anet guts this aids.

u can try destroyer and dolyak with old build mb

Destroyer is a horrible idea in general.

pssssssstttt… so many mesmers ;-D

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

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I dont understand the shield change. What does it mean?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Persistence_of_Memory

This was the nerf to shield CD on the phantasm build, haven’t checked out what it feels like yet though.


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Posted by: HEDRO.2345

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Time echo = You can use the second block, its a 9 second duration. So you could use the first block… shatter the phantasm+blurred frenzy, use the second block later.

The cooldown of the first block was still ticking the entire time so it would be
be between (alacrity)14-8 left before then you could use both again.

Now the whole skill goes on cd after using the second block

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Posted by: Dethl.2875

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I dont understand the shield change. What does it mean?

The recharge on the Echo of Memory will not be active (tick down) while Déjà Vu is available to use.

Three consequences of this,
The longer you wait between EoM and Déjà Vu, the longer until EoM is next available.
Any phantasms shattered before Déjà Vu is used will not give the 1s CD drop on EoM from Persistane of Memory, since it is not on recharge.
Alacrity will not affect the recharge until Déjà Vu is used.

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Posted by: mrauls.6519

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Oh! Thanks for the clear explanations everyone. I understand now

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Posted by: HEDRO.2345

HEDRO.2345

I dont understand the shield change. What does it mean?

The recharge on the Echo of Memory will not be active (tick down) while Déjà Vu is available to use.

Three consequences of this,
The longer you wait between EoM and Déjà Vu, the longer until EoM is next available.
Any phantasms shattered before Déjà Vu is used will not give the 1s CD drop on EoM from Persistane of Memory, since it is not on recharge.
Alacrity will not affect the recharge until Déjà Vu is used.

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Posted by: FJSAMA.2867

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I dont understand the shield change. What does it mean?

Means if you sucessfully block one attack with echo of memory the cooldown of this skill wont start until you use Dejavu or wait it 10s timmer window.
Also means if you traited presistance of memory, all shattered phantasms between echo of memory and dejavu wont have effect on shield block CD.
But when it affects, it will decrease cd by 1s instead of 2.

TLDR: Shield #4 skill CD went from 30s up to 40s. Also PoM wont affect it unless you wasted your second block/waited 10s. And when it affects it just reduces 1s of CD instead of 2.

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

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The shield nerf is well deserved. Seriously two blocks on such a low CD was OP(on top of all the other ways we have to mitigate dmg). On top of that a slow and a phant. Just no.

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

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Persistence of Memory nerf was uncalled for

core mesmer didnt need to take a hit for chrono

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Posted by: Zelulose.8695

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I’m satisfied with the changes to mesmer. I am not satisfied with the changes done to ranger. Looks like they plan on keeping the sustain where it’s at. I hope they change less from now on because I have a feeling changes will only pull the game downhill from now on.

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