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Posted by: SamTheGuardian.2938

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Last weekend our guild held a private solo tournament. I thought I’d share one of the final matches. Enjoy.

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Posted by: Sanguinem.4932

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Was a fun watch, I was suprised at the comeback towards the end

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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One thing that bothered me was why the warrior kept moving after the mesmer bombed him x.×. Another thing is why the mesmer didn’t bring moa after the first fight. That fight made no sense to me x.×.

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Posted by: SamTheGuardian.2938

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One thing that bothered me was why the warrior kept moving after the mesmer bombed him x.×. Another thing is why the mesmer didn’t bring moa after the first fight. That fight made no sense to me x.×.

Regarding Moa, Torunament rules were set so skills/build were locked for the duration of the match.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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Huh. I would’ve placed a ban on lich/rampage/moa in general since it was a 1v1 tournament. Warrior could’ve ended each duel if he whipped out rampage from the start and went hard.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

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All the cancer and cheesiness and the mesmer gets killed.

I didnt know tournies allowed PU

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Posted by: SamTheGuardian.2938

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All the cancer and cheesiness and the mesmer gets killed.

I didnt know tournies allowed PU

In this case it was a private one on one tournament. No ban on specialization or utility skills other than everything being locked for duration. Map obviously Courtyard so 25 points per kill with 75 points defined as a win. Wanted to see how well the current balance would hold without bans. It was interesting. Should also mention that the Mesmer won.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

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All the cancer and cheesiness and the mesmer gets killed.

I didnt know tournies allowed PU

In this case it was a private one on one tournament. No ban on specialization or utility skills other than everything being locked for duration. Map obviously Courtyard so 25 points per kill with 75 points defined as a win. Wanted to see how well the current balance would hold without bans. It was interesting. Should also mention that the Mesmer won.

Of course, there is no way he’ll lose. VS. Any class for that matter. Assuming Equal Skill Level.

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Posted by: Thaelias.7432

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Yeah I was amazed the mesmer downed at all the first match. Rampage is a joke because he can just invis→decoy→blink and good luck finding him.

I came to see mesmer do what it does and the mesmer mostly met expectations. That is to say, most people don’t have much of a chance.

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Posted by: SamTheGuardian.2938

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If you were to host a private 1 on 1 Tournament what would your “banned list” include. The reality is the game is still not balanced for 1 on 1, but could banning a few traits and utility skills do anything to help?

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

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If you were to host a private 1 on 1 Tournament what would your “banned list” include. The reality is the game is still not balanced for 1 on 1, but could banning a few traits and utility skills do anything to help?

PU, D/D ele ban it, Transformations, Moa.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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^purdy much that. Don’t forget the vamp runes. The game isn’t balanced for any kind of fight if you look at it seriously. Not 1v1, not 5v5, not 2v1. Its just a clusterkitten of variables.

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

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If you were to host a private 1 on 1 Tournament what would your “banned list” include. The reality is the game is still not balanced for 1 on 1, but could banning a few traits and utility skills do anything to help?

Anything except berserker/marauder/assasin. Vampire rune. All elite cd’s over 90 sec (when unaffected by cd reduciton). Rangers. PU. Heal on shatter thing. Shadow’s rejuvenation.

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Posted by: Shala.8352

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If you were to host a private 1 on 1 Tournament what would your “banned list” include. The reality is the game is still not balanced for 1 on 1, but could banning a few traits and utility skills do anything to help?

I would allow only berserker amulet, this help a lot to balance duels. Ranger not allowed too.
Any other build is ok. Rampage and lich is not a problem in 1v1 (rampage = just kite and wait the end, Lich =just use reflect skills)

Still as someone said, duel are not balanced, meaning classes are more efficient against others an less against some others.
For example, necro can be good against ele, but is poor against warrior.
Warrior can be good against necro, but how poor is against mesmer.

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Posted by: Sandzibar.5134

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Rangers.

Rangers OP now?

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Posted by: Tux der Pinguin.3049

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If you were to host a private 1 on 1 Tournament what would your “banned list” include. The reality is the game is still not balanced for 1 on 1, but could banning a few traits and utility skills do anything to help?

I would allow only berserker amulet, this help a lot to balance duels. Ranger not allowed too.
Any other build is ok. Rampage and lich is not a problem in 1v1 (rampage = just kite and wait the end, Lich =just use reflect skills)

Still as someone said, duel are not balanced, meaning classes are more efficient against others an less against some others.
For example, necro can be good against ele, but is poor against warrior.
Warrior can be good against necro, but how poor is against mesmer.

No rangers because?? And just reflect lich is also quite funny for most classes that dont have reflect XD
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Posted by: Shala.8352

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If you were to host a private 1 on 1 Tournament what would your “banned list” include. The reality is the game is still not balanced for 1 on 1, but could banning a few traits and utility skills do anything to help?

I would allow only berserker amulet, this help a lot to balance duels. Ranger not allowed too.
Any other build is ok. Rampage and lich is not a problem in 1v1 (rampage = just kite and wait the end, Lich =just use reflect skills)

Still as someone said, duel are not balanced, meaning classes are more efficient against others an less against some others.
For example, necro can be good against ele, but is poor against warrior.
Warrior can be good against necro, but how poor is against mesmer.

No rangers because?? And just reflect lich is also quite funny for most classes that dont have reflect XD
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mesmer have reflect, warrior have reflect, guardian have reflect, ele have reflect, thief have reflect, but aniway if you dont have reflection you can go stealth, or use some immunity skill that every class have. Well if you are a necro… just pop lich you too XD XD XD.

Ranger not allowed cuz taunt actualy is bugged.

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Posted by: Tux der Pinguin.3049

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why would a thief hace reflect against other opponents than warrior? because there is an elite that is way shorter than lich time without any other use?
also: mesmer has a 2 sec reflect, guardian doesnt have reflect on a vlaid 1v1 build if i am not mistaken. ele has a 3 sec reflect if i remember correctly. Nothing of this is a counter to lich.

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Posted by: SamTheGuardian.2938

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Thanks for all the feedback on the “what would you ban for 1:1” question. Several good points were brought up. I suppose if there were an official 1 on 1 tournament in this game without any bans we would see only a handful classes and builds (or variants of) being played. That’s kind of a sad state of balance isn’kitten That’s where we are with the base game right before an expansion is about to hit unleashing new elite specs for all classes. Seems like balance is would be req of it being considered a serious E-Sport, but ESL has a pro GW2 league so…

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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Nonono. Don’t listen to most of these people here. Generally accepted duel server rules are no elites over 90s CD (basically no rampage, lich, or moa). Anything past that is fair game. Hell, to make things interesting, you couldve made the final round a make or break moment where they try to counter build each other. If they tie up, they move onto the tie breaking round with the builds they just changed to.

The pro tournaments allow rampage/lich etc because most higher leveled teams are capable of co-ordinating themselves properly to avoid it (and they’re not dumb enough to try tanking it). They don’t allow vamp runes now because they’re generally cheesy.

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