Mesmers - only taken for their utilities?

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

Are Mesmers only taken for their utilities like Portal, Time Warp, Veil, Illusions of Life now? It seems that their DPS potential is pretty weak now when compared to most other classes?

Fantasme Bloodwen [R.I.P. Mesmer] | Andi Runi [Warrior] | Bonedoggle [Necro] | Zooerasty [Ranger]
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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

dps potential never changed – mesmer still do very high burst AOE damage and this on very low cooldown

people dont use mesmer in tournaments cuase they get easy shutdown from s/d thief or necro or even s/d ele can oneshot them

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Yes we are. We die to easily to the Condition Meta that we have. Plenty of classes can do what we do (high damage) do it easier and not have to have a bodyguard so we dont die every 5seconds.

They made is to we have high damage potential but the slightest bit of condition focus and we are dead. Other then the Utilities you have we offer NOTHING to a team.

When/if they ever get around to fixing the current Meta we MIGHT become more viable. I dont see us becoming anything like required or anything just a option for a few teams

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Posted by: google.3709

google.3709

Mesmers just haven’t..

  • Learn to play the meta, play like cutie instead of trying to be all up on their faces(condi classes will target Mesmers first)
  • Abuse daze/cc spam.. nether necro/engi(main condi classes) have stability
  • Mesmer has the nastiest boon removal ingame, incorporated in one of the nastiest burst in the game
  • Bring null fields lol it’s pretty troll on this meta since condi builds deal really low damage and don’t have much CC

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Shock, typical blame it on L2P. Ignore the fact we are pretty much sitting ducks for ANY class that involves condition damage. We are targeted first for a reason – we are an easy kill for Condition builds.

Wrong. Necro DOES have Stability so as you were saying “Learn to Play” 2 of the Elites ahve 20seconds of Stability, they can trait for more Stability with DS as well

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Posted by: jportell.2197

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Even mesmer utilities are out done by other classes. IOL for instance. Ranger spirit is better (can be activated twice in 60s!) Moa eh. Not really needed if you have enough condi cleave. Invis. Engis can stack stealth for almsot 20s with enough blast finishers. So really teams have no use for mesmer aside from portal which is a luxury not necessity. More condi cleave is.

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Posted by: Anelyn.4593

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Shock, typical blame it on L2P. Ignore the fact we are pretty much sitting ducks for ANY class that involves condition damage. We are targeted first for a reason – we are an easy kill for Condition builds.

Wrong. Necro DOES have Stability so as you were saying “Learn to Play” 2 of the Elites ahve 20seconds of Stability, they can trait for more Stability with DS as well

Then how comes both S/D ele and S/D thief can shut down / burst a mesmer if you are weak to conditions only? Sorry but all vods from tourney shown that s/d ele and thieves can solo mesmers without any assistance from their team, so I really don’t think the problem is with a necro on other team.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Then how comes both S/D ele and S/D thief can shut down / burst a mesmer if you are weak to conditions only? Sorry but all vods from tourney shown that s/d ele and thieves can solo mesmers without any assistance from their team, so I really don’t think the problem is with a necro on other team.

Strange, did i say ANYWHERE that we are weak to Conditions only? Nope, i cant seem to see it. Maybe learn to read? We are pretty weak against anything in TPvP, however we are even weaker (we have no defense) against Conditions

If we build to survive a condition burst, we wont have the power to do anything worthwhile and then be dead in the next burst.

We could take ALL the cleansing abilities, traits and weapons and we still wouldnt stand a chance against Condition builds, sure we might survive a a condition burst but we wont last that much longer and doing so means we have no offense.

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Posted by: google.3709

google.3709

anyone is a sitting duck if they go up on the enemy’s face without condi clear, learn to position where you can’t be focus like cutie and go in only for the kill, most Mesmers burst, dodge back once and expect to be safe.

lol true… it’s There but no body specs for it, and if you get killed by plague form… it’s pointless to continue this convo :/

stealth has a duration limit, I think it’s like 11s