Guild Wars 2

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy. You aren’t impressing anyone.

I understand that people like coming up with their own builds, but before you theorycraft one, make sure you have a solid basis of understanding for your class please.

jportell.2197:

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy. You aren’t impressing anyone.

I understand that people like coming up with their own builds, but before you theorycraft one, make sure you have a solid basis of understanding for your class please.

Ranked or unranked? If it’s the latter, please let people play the game the way they want. Sure, it’s bad, but he’ll soon come to realize it and improve (hopefully).

edit: it’s sad really. With a celestial amulet it would be okayish, providing he takes HGH. I’d still go for IP though.

Sorel.4870:

jportell.2197:

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy. You aren’t impressing anyone.

I understand that people like coming up with their own builds, but before you theorycraft one, make sure you have a solid basis of understanding for your class please.

Ranked or unranked? If it’s the latter, please let people play the game the way they want. Sure, it’s bad, but he’ll soon come to realize it and improve (hopefully).

edit: it’s sad really. With a celestial amulet it would be okayish, providing he takes HGH. I’d still go for IP though.

Ranked…. One of my guildies vouched for the guy as being amazing at engi. But that isn’t even a high risk high reward build that isn’t meta because its so squishy, its not meta because why the hell would you take pistols with a zerker ammy on engi. It scales about as well with power as scepter does on necro.

Sorel.4870:

jportell.2197:

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy. You aren’t impressing anyone.

I understand that people like coming up with their own builds, but before you theorycraft one, make sure you have a solid basis of understanding for your class please.

Ranked or unranked? If it’s the latter, please let people play the game the way they want. Sure, it’s bad, but he’ll soon come to realize it and improve (hopefully).

edit: it’s sad really. With a celestial amulet it would be okayish, providing he takes HGH. I’d still go for IP though.

No, they would most likely fail, and come to forum to ask for a nerf, especially a ranger nerf zzz.

Sorel.4870:

Ranked or unranked? If it’s the latter, please let people play the game the way they want.

Why do people think that unranked = hot join?

It shouldn’t matter if it’s ranked or unranked. Players who don’t understand profession/build mechanics should be rated and matched with other people who don’t understand profession/build mechanics. Let players fail; just fix the matchmaking so they don’t bring others down with them.

This particular instance is really the OP’s fault since it was a pre-made group. But his point that “Meta builds exist for a reason” is valid, though harsh. If you’re new to PvP, then looking at what others have done already is a highly recommended starting point.

spirit weapon guardians never fail to make me laugh

jportell.2197:

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy. You aren’t impressing anyone.

I understand that people like coming up with their own builds, but before you theorycraft one, make sure you have a solid basis of understanding for your class please.

I run p/s with grenades and zerker ammy in ranked all the time
The build itself is viable for my style and is actually effective in home/decap far situations to deal with meta (turret engis, shout warrs, d/d eles…) and provides an insane cleave dmg at mid if you have a bunker standing on it
I just don’t like rifle and condis so I am limited in this regard

Exedore.6320:

Sorel.4870:

Ranked or unranked? If it’s the latter, please let people play the game the way they want.

Why do people think that unranked = hot join?

It shouldn’t matter if it’s ranked or unranked. Players who don’t understand profession/build mechanics should be rated and matched with other people who don’t understand profession/build mechanics. Let players fail; just fix the matchmaking so they don’t bring others down with them.

This particular instance is really the OP’s fault since it was a pre-made group. But his point that “Meta builds exist for a reason” is valid, though harsh. If you’re new to PvP, then looking at what others have done already is a highly recommended starting point.

Nah. If I played that p/p zerker build in hotjoin, I would still face roll everyone. That’s an extreme example, because you can pretty much see why it’s bad, but for example, there is a lot of engineer, ranger and warrior builds that are probably pretty good, but need to be tested somewhere else than hotjoin. In hotjoin, you can easily win 1v2/1v3 with a mass-sw/sw-shield interrupt celestial warrior with three physical skills (just try it: I have). So I bring these sometimes good, sometimes bad builds to unranked. Sometimes they fail (RIP Lightning Rod SD elementalist), but sometimes they are pretty good: a ranger friend of mine showed me a melee cleric ranger build that works so well we’re now playing it in ranked with success! If people never tried new things, how would your precious meta ever be found?

Sorel.4870:

Exedore.6320:

Sorel.4870:

Ranked or unranked? If it’s the latter, please let people play the game the way they want.

Why do people think that unranked = hot join?

It shouldn’t matter if it’s ranked or unranked. Players who don’t understand profession/build mechanics should be rated and matched with other people who don’t understand profession/build mechanics. Let players fail; just fix the matchmaking so they don’t bring others down with them.

This particular instance is really the OP’s fault since it was a pre-made group. But his point that “Meta builds exist for a reason” is valid, though harsh. If you’re new to PvP, then looking at what others have done already is a highly recommended starting point.

Nah. If I played that p/p zerker build in hotjoin, I would still face roll everyone. That’s an extreme example, because you can pretty much see why it’s bad, but for example, there is a lot of engineer, ranger and warrior builds that are probably pretty good, but need to be tested somewhere else than hotjoin. In hotjoin, you can easily win 1v2/1v3 with a mass-sw/sw-shield interrupt celestial warrior with three physical skills (just try it: I have). So I bring these sometimes good, sometimes bad builds to unranked. Sometimes they fail (RIP Lightning Rod SD elementalist), but sometimes they are pretty good: a ranger friend of mine showed me a melee cleric ranger build that works so well we’re now playing it in ranked with success! If people never tried new things, how would your precious meta ever be found?

There is a difference between trying new things that MIGHT work, over trying something ridiculous that just makes no sense. Like at all.

Playing a non-meta spec will only work if you have experience AND your build makes sense, I agree. New players will most likely have to obey the meta and sometimes even competitive players against certain match ups.

You don’t understand how often I get people in solo que who play Warrior and use Signet of Fury, which is like extremely bad no matter what you do.

jportell.2197:

There is a difference between trying new things that MIGHT work, over trying something ridiculous that just makes no sense. Like at all.

Sure, but some people’s minds work in mysterious ways. There’s a guy in this thread pretending that p/p zerker is viable. I know there’s no way because I (probably) main engineer, but maybe a pro ele player would laugh at me for ever believing that a Lightning Rod SD build was a good idea.

Sorel.4870:

jportell.2197:

There is a difference between trying new things that MIGHT work, over trying something ridiculous that just makes no sense. Like at all.

Sure, but some people’s minds work in mysterious ways. There’s a guy in this thread pretending that p/p zerker is viable. I know there’s no way because I (probably) main engineer, but maybe a pro ele player would laugh at me for ever believing that a Lightning Rod SD build was a good idea.

it’s only slightly better than not equipping weapons, barely.

choovanski.5462:

Sorel.4870:

jportell.2197:

There is a difference between trying new things that MIGHT work, over trying something ridiculous that just makes no sense. Like at all.

Sure, but some people’s minds work in mysterious ways. There’s a guy in this thread pretending that p/p zerker is viable. I know there’s no way because I (probably) main engineer, but maybe a pro ele player would laugh at me for ever believing that a Lightning Rod SD build was a good idea.

it’s only slightly better than not equipping weapons, barely.

What’s funny is he asked in Portuguese (i think it’s what he asked) “Can you play something besides mesmer.” Because apparently the shatter mesmer is the reason we weren’t doing well.

BlackTruth.6813:

Playing a non-meta spec will only work if you have experience AND your build makes sense, I agree. New players will most likely have to obey the meta and sometimes even competitive players against certain match ups.

You don’t understand how often I get people in solo que who play Warrior and use Signet of Fury, which is like extremely bad no matter what you do.

I disagree. I dont play meta at all in ranked. I do well because I learn how to best use my build along with teammates.

For example, I play support Guardian in ranked. Thats not meta. And I figured I am best when I have a tank to cause distraction, or when I am needed to hold a specific location for a long as possible solo while my team gets a certain location that is harder to get.

Not meta, and cant win 1v1 most of the time, but I know my role and I play that role. and 1v1ing isnt it. Non-Metas can work, you just need to know your role in the group.

Just like Trinity in PvE MMO. you have to know how to play your role in the group.

Knighthonor.4061:

BlackTruth.6813:

Playing a non-meta spec will only work if you have experience AND your build makes sense, I agree. New players will most likely have to obey the meta and sometimes even competitive players against certain match ups.

You don’t understand how often I get people in solo que who play Warrior and use Signet of Fury, which is like extremely bad no matter what you do.

I disagree. I dont play meta at all in ranked. I do well because I learn how to best use my build along with teammates.

For example, I play support Guardian in ranked. Thats not meta. And I figured I am best when I have a tank to cause distraction, or when I am needed to hold a specific location for a long as possible solo while my team gets a certain location that is harder to get.

Not meta, and cant win 1v1 most of the time, but I know my role and I play that role. and 1v1ing isnt it. Non-Metas can work, you just need to know your role in the group.

Just like Trinity in PvE MMO. you have to know how to play your role in the group.

Support guardians may not be meta. Doesn’t mean it’s a stupid build that is useless it’s actually pretty good. This OP was directed at people that are making their own builds thinking they are gonna be super good, and then they are just the most ridiculous builds ever that don’t work.

jportell.2197:

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy.

Sounds pretty freekill to me xD

Archaon.9524:

jportell.2197:

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy.

Sounds pretty freekill to me xD

Yeah and he was for the other team, every, single, match. I look at my map “oh he’s dead, the fight started 2 seconds ago how the hell are you dead already?!” N

Sorel.4870:

jportell.2197:

Pistol pistol engis running 2/2/0/6/4 bomb kits with a zerker ammy. You aren’t impressing anyone.

I understand that people like coming up with their own builds, but before you theorycraft one, make sure you have a solid basis of understanding for your class please.

Ranked or unranked? If it’s the latter, please let people play the game the way they want. Sure, it’s bad, but he’ll soon come to realize it and improve (hopefully).

edit: it’s sad really. With a celestial amulet it would be okayish, providing he takes HGH. I’d still go for IP though.

Ranked, Unranked, Hotjoin the builds i create based on my playstyle consistently outplay meta builds, why? because i know how to make them pay for their squishiness.

People should just build based on their playstyle, if meta happens to be it then gg, if not, then custom build.

Ragion.2831:

Ranked, Unranked, Hotjoin the builds i create based on my playstyle consistently outplay meta builds, why? because i know how to make them pay for their squishiness.

People should just build based on their playstyle, if meta happens to be it then gg, if not, then custom build.

Preach.