Guild Wars 2

They are just OP. How do you even beat them 1v1? I run a spirit ranger and it’s just impossible to beat this petting zoo build. All they do is just stand there and let their minions deplete your hp and you can’t do anything about it.

I gave up. I decided not to deal with them 1v1. It’s frustrating and degrading.. How can 1 class be that OP? Warriors are even more manageable 1v1.

Nerfbat is the only solution that I can think of.

uh… see I take bombs and laugh at both so no nerfbat is not the only way to counter lol, they probably just kill your build real well.

More pet oriented op 1v1 trash low skill builds what can you do A-net loves that sort of thing.

rofl spirit ranger complaining that minion necros get carried by AI. what goes around comes around bro…

Bring some AoE.
Oh, right, you’re running an imbalanced facerolling build, so nevermind that a build is even more facerolling than yours.

I predict that even after my post people will continue answering to the OP without detecting the troll.

I had a friend running a somewhat tanky minion necro months ago. I’m not complaining or anything, but I have never once seen him lose when he plays minion necro in duels and he generally wins a lot of 1v2s as well. Most I see playing minion necros seem to be completely clueless as to what it is capable of. /shrug

can anyone enlighten me what makes a spirit ranger a facerolling build? O.o

AOE is not really a ranger’s forte… I cannot find a way to beat these minion necros. I always get feared before I can even get close to them, while all her pets are doing massive damage on me.

Valentin.2073:

They are just OP. How do you even beat them 1v1? I run a spirit ranger and it’s just impossible to beat this petting zoo build. All they do is just stand there and let their minions deplete your hp and you can’t do anything about it.

Petting zoo build complains about petting zoo build..Oh the irony

I just tried it in a hotjoin and it blows compared to other necro builds.

Is this even a serious thread? Your complaining about the least OP spec? and your a spirit ranger to boot. I might understand if you were a warrior, and someone manage to escape your CC spam but a Spirit Ranger? LOL

There are two solid ways to deal with AI builds

Spam AOE, if u got it,

If u don’t, run and find a friend who has AOE and get them to spam it on them while you do your terribad single target DEEPS

Lol obvious troll is obvious. Hint: he plays spirit ranger according to OP

I didn’t think people would fall for this but I was obviously wrong. That bumps it up to a 8/10 in my book. Well played.

I…. I actually don’t think this was a troll

oh lawd

Ashanor.5319:

I had a friend running a somewhat tanky minion necro months ago. I’m not complaining or anything, but I have never once seen him lose when he plays minion necro in duels and he generally wins a lot of 1v2s as well. Most I see playing minion necros seem to be completely clueless as to what it is capable of. /shrug

thank you.

flesh golem has a really short CD and just after i was able to kite all of the minions, the necro has already summoned that super strong golem. no ranger pet can even be compared to their flesh golem.

the flesh golem CD needs a huge nerf.

Valentin.2073:

Ashanor.5319:

I had a friend running a somewhat tanky minion necro months ago. I’m not complaining or anything, but I have never once seen him lose when he plays minion necro in duels and he generally wins a lot of 1v2s as well. Most I see playing minion necros seem to be completely clueless as to what it is capable of. /shrug

thank you.

flesh golem has a really short CD and just after i was able to kite all of the minions, the necro has already summoned that super strong golem. no ranger pet can even be compared to their flesh golem.

the flesh golem CD needs a huge nerf.

trololol lolo lolo

I can’t even…

so what you’re all saying is that a necro is completely balanced? this is a real eye-opener.

No most of the responses are people who already despise AI builds pondering the irony of someone who admittedly plays an AI build complaining about another AI build.

Valentin.2073:

They are just OP. How do you even beat them 1v1? I run a spirit ranger and it’s just impossible to beat this petting zoo build. All they do is just stand there and let their minions deplete your hp and you can’t do anything about it.

I gave up. I decided not to deal with them 1v1. It’s frustrating and degrading.. How can 1 class be that OP? Warriors are even more manageable 1v1.

Nerfbat is the only solution that I can think of.

I Nominate the OP as the community czar help anet balance pvp. Minions too stronk! Need to nerf soon before meta comes =]

there’s only a small number of people who dislike a spirit ranger. if i’m not mistaken this build was highly represented on high-end tourneys. the spirits don’t actively attack anyone except storm spirit and we only use that once the enemy gets close enough (stunlock warriors). all necro’s pets deal damage and they don’t even need to click anything. they can just stand frigid letting their pets do all the work. it’s a no brainer build.

small # of people? O.O

dealing with 5 ai’s all actively assaulting you is much harder than dealing with a spirit ranger. do you even know how strong a flesh golem is?

Minions are definitely way too strong. That’s why we saw every decent team running MM builds a few weeks back, even two MM builds if they were really good, and why even still we see minion builds with high representation in high end PvP and tournaments.

I mean come on, didn’t you see the last tournament? There were dozens of these no skill MM players running around just pressing 1 with minions up and winning.

Scoobaniec.9561:

Valentin.2073:

They are just OP. How do you even beat them 1v1? I run a spirit ranger and it’s just impossible to beat this petting zoo build. All they do is just stand there and let their minions deplete your hp and you can’t do anything about it.

Petting zoo build complains about petting zoo build..Oh the irony

Maybe he wants Spirits to also finally be able to auto-attack for him so he can type /dance while fighting.

I was gonna hold back on the pics, but…

MM Necro OP guys.

http://youtu.be/DNF73YkvVBs

watch this video and tell me if there’s any other class that can do it.

I guess Engineers need to be nerfed too…

Gallrvaghn.4921:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Valentin.2073:

They are just OP. How do you even beat them 1v1? I run a spirit ranger and it’s just impossible to beat this petting zoo build. All they do is just stand there and let their minions deplete your hp and you can’t do anything about it.

Petting zoo build complains about petting zoo build..Oh the irony

Maybe he wants Spirits to also finally be able to auto-attack for him so he can type /dance while fighting.

what i wanted to happen is to at least increase CD on their flesh golem. that AI is just too strong to handle.

jmatb.6307:

I guess Engineers need to be nerfed too…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUl9yQM1a0s

no need to nerf engineers. it takes skills to run that class. i admit that i get owned by engi’s on a duel server but they are not OP when it comes to team fight.

The point is there are quite a few builds that can solo the guild lord and bringing that up as an example to why they’re OP is kinda silly.

Some builds are very, very strong 1v1 and there are hierarchies among those builds, with the big variable being whether or not the player is any good at the game.

Sensotix has some SoloQ vids he’s doing where he tries to take an MM Necro on and gets him to like 50 HP left when the MM’s teammate shows up, on a much riskier build on a much squishier class than… spirit ranger.

really? why are you even defending this build?

maybe you’re not having a hard time dealing with minion necros but a lot of of people do like myself. yes, they can get killed on a team fight but they being really effective 1v1 is just showing how OP they are.

i’m sure you have an idea how painstaking it is to kite all of their pets, you dodging here and there. and just after you took down all of his pets, he’s summoning his pets again. it’s a stressful battle ending with the nec as the victor.

maybe if i played a different class my point was taken more seriously.

kill elite? It really helps to have sword/ dagger for this encounter, minions shoudn’t be able to touch you while you whittle down the zoo, at least the elite. Other classes can kite the ai, its a pretty bad build in most cases honestly. The same ranger hardcounter counters these builds too ie: warriors

spirit ranger=/ minions. The only op thing about s.rangers is the elite rez.

why does a necro get a 48- 60 second cooldown on their elite pet? our res spirit has a 180 sec cd, now you say it’s op?

a t s e.9614:

Who plays this crap anyway, Autoatacking with a spirit build most be boring.

how can a spirit ranger beat a warrior if what he does is just spamming 1 on a shortbow? you use poison and daze, man. you are completely misinformed. try rolling this build before you diss it.

Please Valentin,

Play a thief or ele in tpvp for a week. You will never call spirit ranger difficult again I promise you.

a good thief can beat a spirit ranger 1v1.

spirit rangers are not OP. they are BALANCED. maybe an ele is a little underpowered but i’m sure they had their moment of power.

Valentin maybe practice? If you need to practice you can duel me (ingame name is High Warlord Sikari), I’m an MM, I’ll duel you and see where you can improve to get me down if you’d like.

Spirit Ranger complaining about a Minion Necro and using petting zoo as an insult? LOL.

There is the slight issue that he’s power Spirit, and not conditions, which condi spirits tend to have an easier time with MM by a long shot, really.

mm is really op in 1v1, other than that its not that great of a build, so being op in one situation is not really something to complain about, although I understand why it is frustrating… but your a spirit ranger, you pretty much own everything else 1v1.

Don’t worry, every class seems to have its bane, ur notn alone. For mm necros its power well necros, and warrior just destroys everyone.

^ And any heavy aoe, especially conditions. Bomb/grenade engies can rip an MM a new one. MM isn’t all that powerful, it just hard counters a few builds, while others struggle with it, then some blow it away, and it doesn’t do that fantastic in team play. If it got nerfed it’d probably disappear forever T_T

yeah, you’re right. i still want a longer CD on your flesh golems though. lol

idk why you have such short CD on your elite skill… i still find it unfair that our spirit res has 180 sec cd. that is just too long compared to yours.

lol minon masters – trashiest no skill build ever. Tried playing one… You literally stand there spawning AIs with the occasional condition. But dont worry, screw 1v1ing them and make sure you laugh hard when you meet them in tpvp.

haha minion necro OP?? Thats funny , ok its great in 1v1 situations but if u know how u can counter it its easy to kill but man the whole idea in mion necro wont work in any competetive team , flesh golem OP??? Man plz….

When i think that i saw everything on this forum i come and see new topic and idk what to say , just ppl are complainig abaout everything.

L2P! Every class have a build that counter other build then guys come to forum and complain OMG this is so OP OMG NERF IT!!!

I don’t know how good this build is when played to its max, but I have no trouble with most MM I see, as they seem to forget that they need to move and do more than lay down 1-2 marks every now and then.

This is coming from a d/d ele. If ele can beat a spec, its not OP.

As I said in the grand scheme if things they are really not a problem. But again in a 1 versus 1 situation Minion necros are another low skill piece of trash spec. The game doesn’t need builds like this regardless. Its literally for face-roll troglodytes regardless of whether its medicore in team fights or not. Let me fill up the screen with pet spam and run around like a moron and hopefully the ai and bad targetting system this game has will work its magic. For that to even work in 1 situation out of 10 is stupid and bad design imo. Super low level skill builds that have any kind of effectiveness need to be culled from the game as long as the reward for for playing high skill level builds is so bad as it is currently. There is no balance.