Minions,minions everywhere.

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Posted by: SpecterMAT.7306

SpecterMAT.7306

After a few weeks of break, I finally played a few PvP matches today.

And I noticed, 90% of rangers and necros are running with 934343 minions. No other build. Minion build.

Since targetting is still broken and bad, and nobody will do anything about minion abuse, players will abuse it.

This is the lowest the spvp community can go,i think. there is no lower level.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

Well for necros, we have only 2 solid builds for pvp, namely condi necro and mm necro. And with the amount of warriors the condi spec phased out a little. Power Necros are only good if you get good team support (do lack of a good defense), which is unlikely in solo que and hot joins.

For rangers, do they even have good none spirit builds?

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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

RaynStargaze.6510

If you lose to pure minion master necro its most likely your fault rly…

And yes most meta builds are simply being played for a complete lack of alternative. I cant imagine a single ranger actually WANTING to play this brain afk build.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

minion master build are actually really good in 1v1 and are easy to play but hard to master typ of build. Which makes them really popular

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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

RaynStargaze.6510

minion master necro builds are horrendous as long as you can kite / aoe snare / kill the minions. This idea that these guys are good 1v1ers is pure garbage.

And the fact that you said these builds are “hard to master” makes your existence invalid – gg.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

minion master necro builds are horrendous as long as you can kite / aoe snare / kill the minions. This idea that these guys are good 1v1ers is pure garbage.

And the fact that you said these builds are “hard to master” makes your existence invalid – gg.

Do you know how stupid those things are? It is really diffucult to always make them do what you want…

But you are right if the necro can not control is minions decently, you can kill them easy, which most cannot do.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

Mad Queen Malafide.7512

Is there anything about the necromancer that hasn’t been nerfed into uselessness at this point? We barely have any viable builds left. We have no defense what so ever. In PVE our class has been destroyed due to all the pvp nerfs. But yeah, nerf the minions too while you’re at it. Maybe we could have the minions have no ai, instead of bad ai. How about the moment you encounter a foe, the minions run in random directions?

Then again, we could also just make Dhuumfire a fixed trait on everyone’s trait tree. I get the impression that’s what the balance team is going for with our class.

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Posted by: xoom.4918

xoom.4918

If you lose to pure minion master necro its most likely your fault rly…

And yes most meta builds are simply being played for a complete lack of alternative. I cant imagine a single ranger actually WANTING to play this brain afk build.

I think you clearly underestimate how strong MMnecroes are in 1v1s. You obviously have not seen the patch updates to MMnecroes. It’s annoying to fight such builds because it’s a mass clusterkitten of kitten that you have to go through, when your first priority is to get the bone golem down.

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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

RaynStargaze.6510

If you lose to pure minion master necro its most likely your fault rly…

And yes most meta builds are simply being played for a complete lack of alternative. I cant imagine a single ranger actually WANTING to play this brain afk build.

I think you clearly underestimate how strong MMnecroes are in 1v1s. You obviously have not seen the patch updates to MMnecroes. It’s annoying to fight such builds because it’s a mass clusterkitten of kitten that you have to go through, when your first priority is to get the bone golem down.

Let me see…

ranger —> use your own pet to dps necro and kite the minions (chill on weapon swap or the long aoe cripple are typical choices) easy win

engineer —> nades+bombs lol ez win

thief —> lolstep to necro --> dps necro —> step back when minions come near --> wait for minions to get away from MM —> lolstep back in --> gg

warrior —> just aoe / stunlock the minions to death while you destroy the nec as well

Mesmer —> Better minions + stealth + aoe burst --> gg

Ele isnt viable and so is dps guard so far…

The only scary thing about minion nec is getting stuck in his stupidly long immobilize which is on ridiculous cooldown. Dealing with minions is as easy as PvE. Minions arent very smart.

Not to mention minions are unplayable on kylho anyway.

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Posted by: TheDevice.2751

TheDevice.2751

Is there anything about the necromancer that hasn’t been nerfed into uselessness at this point? We barely have any viable builds left. We have no defense what so ever. In PVE our class has been destroyed due to all the pvp nerfs. But yeah, nerf the minions too while you’re at it. Maybe we could have the minions have no ai, instead of bad ai. How about the moment you encounter a foe, the minions run in random directions?

Then again, we could also just make Dhuumfire a fixed trait on everyone’s trait tree. I get the impression that’s what the balance team is going for with our class.

No! I already like my minions deciding whether or not to do anything in a fight. I like to watch them… They’re not sure if they want to. They look at eachother and pick their noses for a bit. It’s really interesting.

I had a guy right next to me, im spinning my axe 2 and my bone minions are like “yeaaahhhh…. idk…. ugh… do i smell farm? Hmm. wat to do? Who’s that guy? He has nice shoes…”

It’s really enjoyable.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

as said before:
- major cluster kitten on screen
- pet blocking for single target spells

but hey, anet is adding more pets…. zzz

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