Guild Wars 2

PvP is *dying!!

On your matchmaking rant, you’re probably just looking at people’s decayed rating value, which can be up to 700 below their real rating. Their real rating is used for matches.

Exedore.6320:

On your matchmaking rant, you’re probably just looking at people’s decayed rating value, which can be up to 700 below their real rating. Their real rating is used for matches.

No its not that. Its legit silver players in legend games and it happens pretty often

The MMR ratings are way too volatile for a season of this length. It doesn’t promote continued play.

Also their balance patches are just pointless. For example, necro greatsword. All these things should be receiving constant tweaks

Looks like some of the wow is dying crowd has moved to gw2.

Can someone explain to me how to permanently block as a guardian? Sounds amazing!

mrauls.6519:

Can someone explain to me how to permanently block as a guardian? Sounds amazing!

Ikr, I’ve been looking for that trait.

Pvp on December 2014: 10k players, was the max of all time in that moment.

Pvp on January of 2017: Only gw2 efficiency had 25k players with skill rating.
Games not dying, has its problems and you are bored, but that doesnt mean its dying. Self delusional could be used to:
thinking issues= dying and i think/feel that its dying = its dying.

In any case, hope your pvp crisis pass and you continue to play.

Pd: Not my main language.

That people complain about d/d thief is seriously hilarious.

A Dragonhunter can block a lot, a Guardian cannot.

The meta Build have:
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Courageous_Return Recharge of f3/30 sec after a revive

Blocks for seconds
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_of_Courage block for 4 sec
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Renewed_Focus block 3 sec (no damage) to reset all the virtues

Aegis
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_of_Courage every 30 sec (traited) from passive f3
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_of_Judgment CD of 16 sec (traited) [weapon:shield]
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hunter's_Determination on impending condition every 60 sec

vs Projectiles
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zealot's_Defense CD of 15 sec for 3 sec [weapon:sword]
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deflecting_Shot CD of 10 sec for path only [weapon:longbow]
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_of_Absorption CD of 19.25 for 4 sec (no direct damage) [weapon:shield]

So the Meditrapper can’t do direct damage while blocking with 3 sec of Renewed Focus and 4 sec of Shield of Absorption while can do damage under the effect of
double Shield of Courage and aegis.

So the longest block chain while damaging can be 4 sec (damage) + 3 sec (no damage) + 4 sec (damage)
8/11 sec.

And now.. take a look here
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_Master
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_Stance
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Counterblow
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defy_Pain_
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Endure_Pain
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Healing_Signet
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Berserker_Stance

Seems that DH isn’t op but in line with the others heavy class.. oh, sorry Revenerf :P

Joke time:

It is very difficult to balance a game around Invulnerability CDs

Lucius.2140:

Pvp on December 2014: 10k players, was the max of all time in that moment.

Pvp on January of 2017: Only gw2 efficiency had 25k players with skill rating.
Games not dying, has its problems and you are bored, but that doesnt mean its dying. Self delusional could be used to:
thinking issues= dying and i think/feel that its dying = its dying.

In any case, hope your pvp crisis pass and you continue to play.

Pd: Not my main language.

I’m curious, where are these numbers coming from? The first one doesn’t have a listed source and I cannot find anything on gw2efficiency about total amount of players.

Lucius.2140:

Pvp on December 2014: 10k players, was the max of all time in that moment.

Pvp on January of 2017: Only gw2 efficiency had 25k players with skill rating.
Games not dying, has its problems and you are bored, but that doesnt mean its dying. Self delusional could be used to:
thinking issues= dying and i think/feel that its dying = its dying.

In any case, hope your pvp crisis pass and you continue to play.

Pd: Not my main language.

just because theres more PvE players in PvP for the ascended gear that dosent mean PvP is not dieing. They dont care about pvp they are there for rewards. At high rating PvP id dying

Emdrix.6124:

At high rating PvP id dying

I think the number of players willing to forcefully decay their accounts, queue dodge, or play on alts for a relatively meaningless title and leaderboard shows that not only is PvP not dying but that people are taking it more seriously than they have in years.

This thread makes no sense. People don’t exploit a system en masse they don’t care about winning.

PvP is more than fine, and there are people in my guild genuinely interested in improving for season six that I never would have otherwise expected to see outside of Auric Basin, Silverwastes, or Fractals.

Yes, there are a lot of PvE players that farmed their matches for free ascended, but a decent percentage of them have stuck around and vowed to improve.

Lucius.2140:

Pvp on December 2014: 10k players, was the max of all time in that moment.

Pvp on January of 2017: Only gw2 efficiency had 25k players with skill rating.
Games not dying, has its problems and you are bored, but that doesnt mean its dying. Self delusional could be used to:
thinking issues= dying and i think/feel that its dying = its dying.

In any case, hope your pvp crisis pass and you continue to play.

Pd: Not my main language.

Where are the data come from???
I have to say, you can see the viewer number from ESL / WTS / Twitch / Reddit….
This is more useful and objective for reference.

Lucius.2140:

Pvp on December 2014: 10k players, was the max of all time in that moment.

Pvp on January of 2017: Only gw2 efficiency had 25k players with skill rating.
Games not dying, has its problems and you are bored, but that doesnt mean its dying. Self delusional could be used to:
thinking issues= dying and i think/feel that its dying = its dying.

In any case, hope your pvp crisis pass and you continue to play.

Pd: Not my main language.

Or see this NCsoft 2014.4Q to NCsoft 2016.3Q
I have to say, this is very pitiful…..

xeonage.1253:

Where are the data come from???

Actual data (not complete) https://gw2efficiency.com/
The 10k reference was either a dev post or was put on the noticeboard. Must be somewhere anyway.

I thought I quit the game, turns out I couldn’t. So I spent another fifty on the game and made a toon and made ascended gear to try a fractal, only level 7 after 4.5 years but here goes nothing.

PvP is crap this season and killing off the dedicated pvp players.

sephiroth.4217:

I thought I quit the game, turns out I couldn’t. So I spent another fifty on the game and made a toon and made ascended gear to try a fractal, only level 7 after 4.5 years but here goes nothing.

PvP is crap this season and killing off the dedicated pvp players.

True but look on the bright side. There are a bunch of actually good dedicated PvP games on the market for dedicated PvP players to go to, when they get tried of the shenanigans of PvP in GW2.

ANet don’t care about losing PvP population. They’ll just sell a even more power creeped up expansion that everyone will buy, because unless you want to be scrub tier’ed in PvE you’ll have no choice.

I’ll tell to personally as a ex-Dedicated GW2 PvP player that turned PvE player in GW2, that now plays actually dedicated PvP games. PvP life is great outside of GW2. Just enjoy your PvE farm when playing GW2. Go elsewhere to enjoy competing in PvP.

As long as ANet can bribe PvE players to play PvP, and the ESL players can get stacked on one team to gun down the teams of random PvEers, GW2’s PvP will never die.

It’s sad but the PvEers used to only run PvE content. Then they started to run WvW content. Now they also run PvP. Whelp, get used to it this is the face of GW2’s PvP now. Welcome to the new age.

xeonage.1253:

Lucius.2140:

Pvp on December 2014: 10k players, was the max of all time in that moment.

Pvp on January of 2017: Only gw2 efficiency had 25k players with skill rating.
Games not dying, has its problems and you are bored, but that doesnt mean its dying. Self delusional could be used to:
thinking issues= dying and i think/feel that its dying = its dying.

In any case, hope your pvp crisis pass and you continue to play.

Pd: Not my main language.

Or see this NCsoft 2014.4Q to NCsoft 2016.3Q
I have to say, this is very pitiful…..

Wow the game is dying

Reaper Alim.4176:

sephiroth.4217:

I thought I quit the game, turns out I couldn’t. So I spent another fifty on the game and made a toon and made ascended gear to try a fractal, only level 7 after 4.5 years but here goes nothing.

PvP is crap this season and killing off the dedicated pvp players.

True but look on the bright side. There are a bunch of actually good dedicated PvP games on the market for dedicated PvP players to go to, when they get tried of the shenanigans of PvP in GW2.

ANet don’t care about losing PvP population. They’ll just sell a even more power creeped up expansion that everyone will buy, because unless you want to be scrub tier’ed in PvE you’ll have no choice.

I’ll tell to personally as a ex-Dedicated GW2 PvP player that turned PvE player in GW2, that now plays actually dedicated PvP games. PvP life is great outside of GW2. Just enjoy your PvE farm when playing GW2. Go elsewhere to enjoy competing in PvP.

As long as ANet can bribe PvE players to play PvP, and the ESL players can get stacked on one team to gun down the teams of random PvEers, GW2’s PvP will never die.

It’s sad but the PvEers used to only run PvE content. Then they started to run WvW content. Now they also run PvP. Whelp, get used to it this is the face of GW2’s PvP now. Welcome to the new age.

I started to get back into League Of Legends, I haven’t played it since I made Silver in Ranked Team 3v3 in Season 2 lol but I found out they broke my Shen, Mordekaiser and Talon. /angry face

I’m also 100% sure the reason ESL players fight 1600 rating is for marketing reasons too, they wouldn’t look as good if they fought people in similar skill levels, it would just look like an average game.

Yea, season 5 spvp was really horrible,i’m at 120 at leaderbords right now and if i lose like 3 games i’m out of leaderbord,soo i’ll just do what every one is doing,i’ll play with some friend that dont care about his mmr and ask him to quit the game just to get my decay off and get my tittle,cuz i wont play spvp at this season anymore,what’s the reason to create a top 250 leaderbord if you get top 100 and lose 4 games,only 4 and u’r out of it. 2 weeks ago when jeff was top 1 with pdemo account with 16 wins 0 loses i played with him on my team and that was his frist lose,2 mins before the game end our elementalist just quited the game,without saying a word,he could got DC but i’m 101% sure that he got paid for it,and when a looked at the leaderbord again jeff was with 1 lose,THAT WAS REALLLLLLLLLLY FUNNY. Please anet,no more leaderbord,no more sec account,no more long queues,jet ppl have fun with spvp with a decent matchmaking. I’m not the best player and i do rage a lot at matches,but i have my reasons to do that,that’s why i’ll just starting “cheat” with one friend to dont take the risk to get out of leaderbords…

The more I play the more I’m punished. If I win 1 game I am forced to carry 2~3 bad people who can’t even dodge or press skills. I don’t think its extremely fair when I wait 5~6 minutes for ranked matches on prime time just to see how bad my teammates do.

Do you know how i know I’m being punished? I win an extremely close match, and then the next 2~3 matches I will lose no matter what. If I win my 1v1 my team has wiped, if my team wins teamfights with me my home is lost. There is just no way for me to do anything anymore. I try switching to engi, ele, warrior, rev, Dh, just nothing. Literally whether I play good or bad I make no difference in each matches because my teammates are that bad.

If im playing support my team does no damage, if im playing DPS my team does no support, litearlly I am being punished for queuing. Why is this? My current match one of the teammates decided to throw after losing their own 4v3. What more can I do in this point? I am exactly at 50/50 win loss ratio currently from 60% because suddenly I am a god of PVP and have to carry people who never even played pvp after waiting for a long time.

Just bring back team and solo arena from 2013 and remove the seasoned and unranked all together.
Your matchmaking clearly does not work because sometimes I get pulled into Legend/platinum queues for no reason just to get stomped or have so much mmr stacked against me that unless I 1v4 and win my team still loses.

I am not an ESL player or even good, I just want to enjoy some quality matchmaking but at the moment it is impossible

so what I’m hearing is that mmr ranking and leaderboards are the problem. stands to reason that if they were gone then people could start enjoying the game. bringing back solo and team arena could solve the problem, but blowout matches were happening back then too.

maybe find a different way to group players together? perhaps rank people by dps, heals/boons, damage mitigated, time spent on point/times decapped/captured, kdr, adr?

I agree that we need way more significant and more frequent balance changes.

Hot Boy.7138:

I agree that we need way more significant and more frequent balance changes.

+1 not just hotfixes that needs 4 months to accomplish.