Guild Wars 2

…but you won’t let us!

I don’t understand why you haven’t enabled custom private servers so that we can hold our own tournaments within guild and with our friends. Our guild tries to join an empty server with say 8 people but inevitably we end up with pugs and that ruins it for us.

I’ve got guild donation money to burn in the gem shop for this if you set it up as a monthly buy.

Surely there are lots of guilds/people that would want to do this as well?

I would not be willing to pay to do something games have been doing for free for decades.

the reason I chose to settle on gw2 is that I am also not willing to pay sub fees for unfinished products any more.

nakoda.4213:

I would not be willing to pay to do something games have been doing for free for decades.

the reason I chose to settle on gw2 is that I am also not willing to pay sub fees for unfinished products any more.

I’d say owning your own server in a video game, at least in most of the games that is featured in, is not free.

You better not have to pay for it!

It would be very unusual for a MMO to make you pay for a server. Very unusual!

gw1 guild hall scrimmage cost ecto to use. /truestory

Quoting from: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/structured-pvp-iceberg/

Custom arenas

Alright. You’ve got your build. You have your 5-person team, and you’re really good at working together. You want a place to train. You want a place to challenge other teams (and by challenge, I mean you wanna slap down those punks who were talking trash in that tournament you just played!!!). You want the ability to play only the maps you want to play. You want a place where you and your friends can play without random people jumping in on the game.
What do you do?
You rent a custom arena.
Custom arenas are special PvP maps, rented by players, that will allow you to set up passwords, host scrims, and test strategies with your team. This will allow you to challenge other teams, work on your builds in secret, and test your skills 1-on-1 with friends. You can open the server up to everyone and set the map rotation you like best, or keep your arena password-protected so it serves as your private training ground.
We expect custom arenas will be a massive boon to the sPvP community. These rentable arenas will allow you to break up into teams, have a place to call your own, and allow you to organize your own private tournaments. You can customize the arena the way you want it (within established parameters), and you can select which maps to play on.
In a future blog post, we’ll talk about custom arenas in a lot of detail, and we’ll talk about all the settings available on them, as well as how you rent them!
Custom arenas are one of the key features that will help GW2 sPvP grow, but it’s not the only one. Which leads us to…

Don’t expect it to be free, duh

Dragons Nest (a free to play pvp centric mmo) has had this feature for free since it was in open beta….

Phantaram.1265:

nakoda.4213:

I would not be willing to pay to do something games have been doing for free for decades.

the reason I chose to settle on gw2 is that I am also not willing to pay sub fees for unfinished products any more.

I’d say owning your own server in a video game, at least in most of the games that is featured in, is not free.

I highly doubt that you will actually own a server and have better latency, control over server-specific-settings (region for example) and other stuff like that.

What it most likely will be is a “make custom game”-function common in every competetive Game and a necessity for e-Sports – they can’t make Players pay for that.

What they can do though, is make Players pay for some kind of a “deluxe-Version”, that gave you much more freedom about the Settings and the Options. PW-Protection and Map-choice should probably be in the free Version, but they could go way beyond that and add Options in the deluxe-Version for:

1) Number of Players
2) Changes in what gives how many Points (killing/capping/secondary Objectives)
3) Changes to the length of the Game and Points needed for the win
4) Blocking out certain Classes, Runes or Amulets
5) Chance to fiddle around with stuff like %DPS taken, Respawn-Timer, time to cap/decap Points
6) Hell, maybe there could even be some sort of a Mapmaker, where you could use a current Map and then place Nodes (maybe even only 1 or up to 5 or sth.) and various secondary Objectives on them (this would be the dream! ^^’)

And I see no Problem with paying for that, because it wouldn’t hinder e-Sport or rid any1 of a crucial Game-feature and give no1 an advantage through money, just a bit more freedom on how you want to play.

PowerBottom.5796:

Phantaram.1265:

nakoda.4213:

I would not be willing to pay to do something games have been doing for free for decades.

the reason I chose to settle on gw2 is that I am also not willing to pay sub fees for unfinished products any more.

I’d say owning your own server in a video game, at least in most of the games that is featured in, is not free.

I highly doubt that you will actually own a server and have better latency, control over server-specific-settings (region for example) and other stuff like that.

What it most likely will be is a “make custom game”-function common in every competetive Game and a necessity for e-Sports – they can’t make Players pay for that.

What they can do though, is make Players pay for some kind of a “deluxe-Version”, that gave you much more freedom about the Settings and the Options. PW-Protection and Map-choice should probably be in the free Version, but they could go way beyond that and add Options in the deluxe-Version for:

1) Number of Players
2) Changes in what gives how many Points (killing/capping/secondary Objectives)
3) Changes to the length of the Game and Points needed for the win
4) Blocking out certain Classes, Runes or Amulets
5) Chance to fiddle around with stuff like %DPS taken, Respawn-Timer, time to cap/decap Points
6) Hell, maybe there could even be some sort of a Mapmaker, where you could use a current Map and then place Nodes (maybe even only 1 or up to 5 or sth.) and various secondary Objectives on them (this would be the dream! ^^’)

And I see no Problem with paying for that, because it wouldn’t hinder e-Sport or rid any1 of a crucial Game-feature and give no1 an advantage through money, just a bit more freedom on how you want to play.

Again DN has had points 1, 2, and 3 since open beta. A minimap maker or something like that sounds a good idea as a paid feature perhaps, I imagine it would take a lot of work though.

You just need a tab on the spvp game browser with 8vs8, 5vs5, and custom. Click a tab and a list of servers appears. Under custom click create game room to set up your game (access options for pw protect, map, no. of players, etc) , or join one of the existing game rooms/servers if you want.

I think it would be strange to have to pay for that, but maybe if you can use in game currency earned through spvp as well it would be ok.

I might be getting out of hand here but I have never seen an MMO forcing players and teams to pay for the MAIN thing that might turn this into the e-sport it deserves to be.
Custom Arenas is almost single handedly the jump the game needs to start getting into ladders, ESL’s and all that projection, and people are getting comfortable on paying for it? Doesn’t make ANY sense to me.

I was imagining something much simpler like the ability (button XP) to create a certain custom server for a limited time, like 2-3 rounds that would then be shutdown after the game had ended. It does not seem hard to me and it certainly does not look like it should be payed for. I mean i understand if the servers would be rented fulltime or whatever but that’s not even needed!

On the other hand, I’m not sure about what form of payment are they/we talking about here. Real money? Hell no, they should make this as easy as possible for players and look at this as an investment, because truth be told if this game reaches e-sports level they’ll make way more money with competitions, LAN events and whatnot than they have been doing with PVE.

If anything, and I say once again that my opinion is that it should be completely free, if anything the payment could be forced into something that would come out of players playing pvp. I would say gems but since Anet has long ended that, I truly don’t know what it could be, but some type of reward from pvp applied into paying the custom arena rent (gems, huge amounts of glory? XD no idea) with the possiblity of paying for it for the less patient and grindy players would sound DECENT.

Charging for features that should have been in on day 1 at this point would kill any chance for spvp to catch on.

If the point is to get people who had teams to come back once the needed features are added, then asking them for more money is actually insulting.

If you would really like to give money to Anet, i’ll do you a solid and collect it all up and consolidate it.

You can always count on me, gentlemen.

Phantaram.1265:

nakoda.4213:

I would not be willing to pay to do something games have been doing for free for decades.

the reason I chose to settle on gw2 is that I am also not willing to pay sub fees for unfinished products any more.

I’d say owning your own server in a video game, at least in most of the games that is featured in, is not free.

having a dedicated computer for hosting custom servers = 4-8—$
having the knowledge to build computers = 40k for school, or a good 2 years of practice.
having some other company to configure a .sys file for you = 15$/month

hosting your own games using readily available custom server software available by many of the highest population longest lasting games in PC online competitive history = free.

No, custom servers do not cost money. Many games release server software for free to promote their game being played more by providing the coding infrastructure to people with the savvy to host it on their own hardware, eliminating both time and resources from the developer’s plate because their gaming community is willing to spread the joy and promote the game themselves.

I cannot think of a single title I have played in the last ten years where custom matchmaking cost extra money. I would be happy if you could point some out for me. All the big ticket titles I have in mind, PC and console, all allow players to do their own match making.

I can see people paying for TS or Ventrilo or whatever, but not to play the kitten game.

The mmo industry specifically has brainwashed players over the last decade in to thinking that people should actually be willing to pay for unfinished products.

That makes you a victim.