Banner is Insta Revive (AOE)
Illusion of Life is also insta Revive (pseudo) (AOE)
Signet of mercy is also insta Revive
Glyph revive is also insta revive (AOE)
Signet of Undeath insta revive (Also AOE)
Where is the comparison here?
Search and rescue is only 1 ally, and you need to revive them in the presence of CC, cleaves, etc.
Banner is Insta Revive (AOE)
Illusion of Life is also insta Revive (pseudo) (AOE)
Signet of mercy is also insta Revive
Glyph revive is also insta revive (AOE)
Signet of Undeath insta revive (Also AOE)
Where is the comparison here?
Search and rescue is only 1 ally, and you need to revive them in the presence of CC, cleaves, etc.
All the “insta” revive skills have 3+ second cast times. except banner which is 2s cast.
Search and rescue is an instant cast, instant teleport, and manual revive but at double speed, which is usually faster than the 3.5 s cast time on the other skills. Much stronger, even cooldown aside
Banner is Insta Revive (AOE)
Illusion of Life is also insta Revive (pseudo) (AOE)
Signet of mercy is also insta Revive
Glyph revive is also insta revive (AOE)
Signet of Undeath insta revive (Also AOE)
Where is the comparison here?
Search and rescue is only 1 ally, and you need to revive them in the presence of CC, cleaves, etc.
All the “insta” revive skills have 3+ second cast times. except banner which is 2s cast.
Search and rescue is an instant cast, instant teleport, and manual revive but at double speed, which is usually faster than the 3.5 s cast time on the other skills. Much stronger, even cooldown aside
Like they said the closest thing to S&R is transfusion and transfusion is AoE with the same cooldown…
Banner is Insta Revive (AOE)
Illusion of Life is also insta Revive (pseudo) (AOE)
Signet of mercy is also insta Revive
Glyph revive is also insta revive (AOE)
Signet of Undeath insta revive (Also AOE)
Where is the comparison here?
Search and rescue is only 1 ally, and you need to revive them in the presence of CC, cleaves, etc.
All the “insta” revive skills have 3+ second cast times. except banner which is 2s cast.
Search and rescue is an instant cast, instant teleport, and manual revive but at double speed, which is usually faster than the 3.5 s cast time on the other skills. Much stronger, even cooldown aside
Again you are not looking at the big picture, If search and rescue insta revived 3 allies then the cd will be higher.
You cannot argue that S&A is better than a 3 man res which the latter could turn a losing teamfight.
The keyword here is manual revive.
What does that mean? Susceptible to CC, Poison, Or you can kill the druid and pet.
@To the guy saying banner is affected by poison
S&A is also affected by poison, both ranger and the pet, and you can kill them, I am guessing you are a warrior main but please look outside the box.
@All
Are you guys sure Transfusion has an ICD of 40? Never knew about that.
Actually it’s only 30 seconds if you take reaper. (assuming that 40 you were saying was the DS 4 CD)
S&A is also affected by poison, bot
Are you guys sure Transfusion has an ICD of 40? Never knew about that.
Actually it’s only 30 seconds if you take reaper. (assuming that 40 you were saying was the DS 4 CD)
It has no ICD therefore if reaper 4 has a 30cd Transfusion on a reaper has a 30sec CD.
Banner is Insta Revive (AOE)
Illusion of Life is also insta Revive (pseudo) (AOE)
Signet of mercy is also insta Revive
Glyph revive is also insta revive (AOE)
Signet of Undeath insta revive (Also AOE)
Where is the comparison here?
Search and rescue is only 1 ally, and you need to revive them in the presence of CC, cleaves, etc.
If those are better than why doesn’t anyone use them? Oh right because they aren’t. Massive cds and massive cast times.
As for transfusion, it is a GM vs a util, it is a GM vs an adept trait.
Necros don’t have reflects, invulns, vigor, blocks,
extra dodges, real stability, mobility skills,
burst skills, sustain, or good support. GG ANET.
Banner is Insta Revive (AOE)
Illusion of Life is also insta Revive (pseudo) (AOE)
Signet of mercy is also insta Revive
Glyph revive is also insta revive (AOE)
Signet of Undeath insta revive (Also AOE)
Where is the comparison here?
Search and rescue is only 1 ally, and you need to revive them in the presence of CC, cleaves, etc.
If those are better than why doesn’t anyone use them? Oh right because they aren’t. Massive cds and massive cast times.
As for transfusion, it is a GM vs a util, it is a GM vs an adept trait.
Again for those of you who like to take things in context.
The topic was about the CDs not what is better or stronger.
I gave the OP the reason why the other revives were on longer CDs (Which is AOE, Instant Cast, etc)
Never did I mention which is better.
GM vs Adept trait does not matter anymore since you get the whole trait tree compared to what he had before where trait position was very important.
The current meta, due to power creep, is far more volatile after the removal of bunkers then the meta when banner was good. Hell, at one point rangers even used the spirit elite.
Point of the matter is, SnR is relatively stronger compared to other rev abilities, but that is because it has been reviewed and updated to be useful. Noone used the old SnR, it was simply worthless.
Also, due to power creep ressing one ally is not of a big deal as it was when bunkers were dominating. There are also plenty of ways to apply pressure from ranged or melee with stuns, cleaves, fears etc.
Lets look at other res skills now:
- reduce elite banner CD from 240 to 180 seconds
- reduce elemental glyph CD to something tolerable like 60ish seconds
etc.
Having a dedicated healing/support role is a good thing. And a ranger using SnR is exacticly that.
You cannot argue that S&A is better than a 3 man res which the latter could turn a losing teamfight.
The keyword here is manual revive.
What does that mean? Susceptible to CC, Poison, Or you can kill the druid and pet.
Oh please. A 3½ second cast time is susceptible to CC and death too.
And importantly, it doesn’t even beat out a stomp in terms of speed. They don’t even need to CC you. If they start a stomp, and you start casting your revive right away, they can just finish the stomp.
The point is, there is absolutely no reason there should be a 4-fold difference in cooldowns
And not to mention transfusion itself rezzes 24% of all those 5 targets when fully channeled. So yeah buff S&R plz. Im not saying it is better, but it has uses as well. D is i mention that transfusion can be used as heal skill as well so that those allies wont go down in first place…and it does good dmg as well.
And not to mention transfusion itself rezzes 24% of all those 5 targets when fully channeled. So yeah buff S&R plz. Im not saying it is better, but it has uses as well. D is i mention that transfusion can be used as heal skill as well so that those allies wont go down in first place…and it does good dmg as well.
I would take search and rescue over transfusion any day. The 1200 range port is worth it alone.
