Guild Wars 2

Ranger: AI spirits
Mesmer: AI clones
Necromaner: AI minions (+endless spamming of condis)
Thief: ?
Warrior: endless spamming of CC
Engineer: endless spamming of condis
Guardian: ? defense all the way! … I mean …. what else, right?
Ele: kitten ele, he doesnt have condis or evasions or AI
Anet: ESPORTZZZZZZ!!!!!!

On a more serious note:

I was once an eager pvp player, I had a team, came pretty close to best teams (skill-wise), but got burned out and frustrated of all those bugs in the game. I believed gw2 will be an awesome esports game.

Then I took a break for a week or 2.

Then I saw what a joke this is and how I illusioned I was.

Basic bugs (and a lot of them, sometimes I wish I’d record my pvp playing and just comment on every bug I get), huge imbalance in classes since the launch of the game, Anet having like 2 or 3 people for pvp, …

Now everytime somethins happens that should not, I just laugh at the game. It’s so much easier than getting angry at Anet. So much enjoyable.

Conclusion: take pvp as a joke and you’ll enjoy it.

Since when was MM the meta? I think you’re confused. Necro spam conditions too. Also, stop complaining about stuff they’re called niches. You never complained “thieves spamming doing physical damage”, because it doesn’t make sense…
-AI is fine, its high skill floor (easy to do good with) but a very high skill ceiling (hard to perform with in high tier against great players), there’s nothing wrong with that. It gives nubs something to play with so they can at least feel useful in low tier, it gives good players something to strive with to perfect.
-Spamming CC, well, it’s a niche. The cc spamming warrior isn’t the issue, its that they are defensive, offensive AND good at cc. That’s the issue, and they realize that and are working on it.
-Condition spam, yeah it’s not everyones’ favorite (myself included) but like I said, what else do you expect a condi-built character to do for damage? It needs a little less in the AoE ranged department, but as far as condi damage as a whole, its just fine. Of course they’re spamming their attacks that do damage, its silly to complain about that.
-Guardians, that’s just a lack of viable options, they’re working on it. At least the role guardians do have they’re very supreme in it and are very wanted. I can see why ANet would want to tread lightly on making them amazing dps and the best bunkers because then you might see nothing but guardians. (Yes we have a similar issue with Warrior but they are already working to nerf that, we don’t want guardians being buffed just to be nerfed do we?)
- Ele needs help, I want to play Ele so bad but I just can’t find it in me… I wish staff AoEs didn’t trigger so slowly, when you compare them to things like necro Marks, it doesn’t make sense why they have to linger so long, their damage as a whole in spvp isn’t nearly enough in spvp. Yada yada, ele has issues.
- I do wish there was better mechanics for active defenses that had possible counter play for mesmers and thieves, but ultimately made them less squishy as a class, and removed the lot of easy-evasions, that’s not very fun I will admit.
- Yeah a lot of balance issues lie within bugs. (Staff necro got wrecked by bugs, and those bugs became a part of the game..)

Overall, its not as bad as you think, some things can just perform multiple roles too well, some balance changes are needed, but in high skill tpvp niches aren’t bad, it gives people a purpose/role when acting within a team.

ValeV.4875:

Ranger: AI spirits
Mesmer: AI clones
Necromaner: AI minions (+endless spamming of condis)
Thief: ?
Warrior: endless spamming of CC
Engineer: endless spamming of condis
Guardian: ? defense all the way! … I mean …. what else, right?
Ele: kitten ele, he doesnt have condis or evasions or AI
Anet: ESPORTZZZZZZ!!!!!!

You´re absolut right! Anet it´s your Shot. So take a look on your 10th of december patch!

ronpierce.2760:

-Spamming CC, well, it’s a niche. The cc spamming warrior isn’t the issue, its that they are defensive, offensive AND good at cc. That’s the issue, and they realize that and are working on it.

It sort of is an issue when only 1 build can output such CC. CC has always been important and when there are no other options in that area it will cause inflated numbers and is unhealthy for the game. Luckily Anet sees this and has already said that the Mesmer will get more CC, on the other hand who actually wants to lose control of their character even more than now?
I think this is a bigger issue than ‘condition spam’ which is how some classes simply deliver their damage and set up kills.

Mesmer is still strong! In 1 vs 1 still op.

GankSinatra.2653:

ronpierce.2760:

-Spamming CC, well, it’s a niche. The cc spamming warrior isn’t the issue, its that they are defensive, offensive AND good at cc. That’s the issue, and they realize that and are working on it.

It sort of is an issue when only 1 build can output such CC. CC has always been important and when there are no other options in that area it will cause inflated numbers and is unhealthy for the game. Luckily Anet sees this and has already said that the Mesmer will get more CC, on the other hand who actually wants to lose control of their character even more than now?
I think this is a bigger issue than ‘condition spam’ which is how some classes simply deliver their damage and set up kills.

I sympathize, I’m not saying its perfect, I’m just saying the highlights are just features of the game. Warrior CC should be more like Necro fear bombing, which is still CC niche, but not constant lock down (like I’ve said, due to high cooldowns, which warriors don’t have much of). My only issue with condi spam is that its unreliable to cleanse because the primary condition classes/builds not only do heavy condition damage but have so many trash conditions to cover it up, thus normal “counter” to excessive condition damage isn’t reliable. Those are issues, certainly. Same with how much of these conditions can be applied via AOE means, again, I agree there are issues, but the general premise of what was being complained about aren’t issues. It’s just that in a few cases they’re taken too far to the extreme.

Mesmer: Clones → Invis → Shatter Clones → Invis → Repeat.

Skilled much.

In other words, the professions listed are the ones you cannot win against.

ValeV.4875:

Ranger: AI spirits
Mesmer: AI clones
Necromaner: AI minions (+endless spamming of condis)
Thief: ?
Warrior: endless spamming of CC
Engineer: endless spamming of condis
Guardian: ? defense all the way! … I mean …. what else, right?
Ele: kitten ele, he doesnt have condis or evasions or AI
Anet: ESPORTZZZZZZ!!!!!!

looks like diverse class list. but wait, you mean this as something bad?

or, or….and this is my conclusion….learn to play and adapt to the meta

Hello,

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