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Posted by: Rashy.4165

Rashy.4165

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

You have some nerve.

Good riddance.

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Posted by: Elementalist Owner.7802

Elementalist Owner.7802

LUL

/15characters

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Posted by: NexForce.1654

NexForce.1654

oh wow. Good Job Arenanet, Good Job. I wish I can like a post on this forums.

ya ya?

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Posted by: Warcry.1596

Warcry.1596

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Being apart of something like this takes away any heroic accomplishment you may have had. =(

“He shall make whole that which was torn asunder.
Restore that which was lost. And all shall be as one.”

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Posted by: Rapr.8526

Rapr.8526

I do believe that their actions are serious, and I appreciate anet’s transparency. However, a permanent ban from pvp for people who only pvp is basically a perma-ban entirely, which seems contrary to anet’s usual banning philosophy. From what I understand, perma bans are almost never given out-bans are usually a 1-2 year-thing.

I’m speaking not to defend the actions of these players, but to ask why anet has taken a somewhat different and aggressive stance here. I kindly ask Ben or another dev here to explain this decision further.

Are you kidding me? They just earned $400.00 each for their actions, they can buy new accounts if they want to play that badly…

That is tru and sad at the same time, i guess this time they will come just to hurt the game…

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Posted by: Rashy.4165

Rashy.4165

Just to clarify my statement as a lot of people seem to replying to it->I understand the reasons for the ban: RMT, account sharing, abuse of game systems, etc. What I’m looking for though is clarification as to why it was necessarily a perma-ban, as opposed to the usual lengthy temp ban of a one to a few years.

A temp ban delays the problem, it’s not enough to prevent those players from a repeat offense; they return in 1-2 years and will likely do the same thing over again. A permanent ban ensures those players can never do it again. Sure, some other idiot my decide to try their hand at cheating in the future, but this action sets the baseline for any action taken on future players deciding to cheat the system.

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Posted by: ozzeh.7398

ozzeh.7398

In addition, we have removed prizes gained by the winning players and have cleared the statues. They will retain the titles for a short while until we can remove them in the future.

I just heard one of them was running around in wvw with the crown, confirm/deny please that the crown was removed please.

I will check with CS. If you could pm me details, that would help.

Will CS be able to take measure to prevent these players from simply buying new accounts and doing it all over again? If they continue to do so could that open the door to possible legal actions?

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Posted by: Lithril Ashwalker.6230

Lithril Ashwalker.6230

permanent dishonor meaning just this season? Or For all seasons to come?

All seasons.

This will be a lesson to all future wanna-be cheaters too. i agree fully to this, maybe we can in the future be more strict on proven match throwers too.

Semi-off topic question: can we make it where Dishonor only counts down while online? people that are literally throwing matches and purposefully afking after repeated reports will just log off, go play a different game, and never really feel the punishment nor the drive to try their best. gw1 had an awesome dishonorable system!

example

" This effect cannot be removed by logging out or changing characters; however, the duration will not reset to the beginning if you change district or outpost. "

why was it changed to countdown while logged off?

there are other areas of the game like unranked they should still be able to play.

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Posted by: kiritsugu emeya.3962

kiritsugu emeya.3962

This shows how much pathetic NA is (just a meme)

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Posted by: Levijeh.9643

Levijeh.9643

Well done Anet, good decision.

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Posted by: Syryn.7591

Syryn.7591

Real talk tho, them pvers getting their irl money back or no? Lel

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Posted by: Kaypud.1438

Kaypud.1438

I can’t believe these players have to use hacks to win tournaments. What kind of world is this? Cheaters never win!

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

Zietlogik.6208

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Or just die a villain

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Posted by: Alphabet.7392

Alphabet.7392

permanent dishonor meaning just this season? Or For all seasons to come?

All seasons.

This will be a lesson to all future wanna-be cheaters too. i agree fully to this, maybe we can in the future be more strict on proven match throwers too.

Semi-off topic question: can we make it where Dishonor only counts down while online? people that are literally throwing matches and purposefully afking after repeated reports will just log off, go play a different game, and never really feel the punishment nor the drive to try their best. gw1 had an awesome dishonorable system!

example

" This effect cannot be removed by logging out or changing characters; however, the duration will not reset to the beginning if you change district or outpost. "

why was it changed to countdown while logged off?

there are other areas of the game like unranked they should still be able to play.

u cant queue for unranked with dishonor lol

HoD
Lyyneheim

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Posted by: Dustin.2793

Dustin.2793

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Or just die a villain

We have died as villains boys. May the bush-league’rs forever prosper.

Magic Toker // Thief // The Abjured
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Posted by: beatthedown.2651

beatthedown.2651

Hahaha have you guys seen the salty responses on the bottom of the reddit thread? Really worth reading.

Good move Anet. Probably not enough to keep all of them out of the pvp scene, but at least they got humiliated thanks to that list you posted. And being successful in this game seems to be their only achievement in life, which is just sad, since these manchilds probably don’t have any connection to the RL too.

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

Oslaf Beinir.5842

good job well done EzPz

oh btw

/LULZ

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Posted by: Snowywonders.1378

Snowywonders.1378

The responses from them are pretty funny Id say. Truth is, they started this game and kept playing because they like it. They even had fans, respected as being the best. The responses they give try to conceal the fact. With the expansion right around the corner they will just watch it and be sad, wishing they could too be excited.. Like a dog behind a cage that cannot go out and run, stuck forever. Sure they can get new accounts, but what about all the achievements and things they had? They will try to convince themselves they do not care but they do. They will be bitter for a long time.

With that being said, LOL REKT

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Posted by: Sean.8921

Sean.8921

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Posted by: sinject.4607

sinject.4607

its almost as if it’s within character for people who constantly abused the most broken builds month to month to cheat to win in a video game

lmao bye

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Posted by: Ziggityzog.7389

Ziggityzog.7389

Someone needs to add one of the basement troll’s faces to her. Anyone got a picture of Not or Nunu we can use? lol. I know you would need a bright flash to cut thru the darkness down below their mother’s house but someone has to have a pic to use.

lol’ing at thos who use broken builds and claim to be good since 2005.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

Won’t they just play on alt accounts?

[SoF]

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Posted by: Avesto.4280

Avesto.4280

Wonderful! Now, can we do something about ze BOTS please.

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Posted by: Sean.8921

Sean.8921

Won’t they just play on alt accounts?

Won’t stop Anet from tracking the exact location and IP they’re playing from.

Next logical question: “won’t they just play on alt accounts behind seven proxies?” Better yet, “won’t they just play on alt accounts at a free wifi area like Starbucks or McDonalds?”

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Posted by: TheFisix.6047

TheFisix.6047

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Does this mean I am now the #1 Necro NA?

Come holla at yuh boy!: https://www.twitch.tv/fisix4phun

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Enjoy your loss kids!
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Posted by: MailMail.6534

MailMail.6534

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Does this mean I am now the #1 Necro NA?

Come holla at yuh boy!: https://www.twitch.tv/fisix4phun

I love a good plug. I’ll come watch!

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Posted by: Ithilwen.1529

Ithilwen.1529

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Or just die a villain

We have died as villains boys. May the bush-league’rs forever prosper.

First, you are / were an amazing thief.

Second, you forgot that the “bush leaguers” are the ones that support this game. Most of them also play without cheating.

Mesmerising Girl

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Not sure what’s more embarrassing…the “pro” players who don’t know how to use vpn’s, playing the fool terribly during the investigation processes, or continuing the idiocracy by replying to the Dev who slapped your face with the ban hammer.

Any legacy these player left on the game is basically destroyed but it was apparently worth the money. To each his own.

Oh and the competitive scene just improved. I’m the 4th best Gerdien in wurld now.

aka FalseLights
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Posted by: Urejt.5648

Urejt.5648

REPORTED FOR WITCHHUNT!

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Posted by: Cronos.6532

Cronos.6532

It would not deter future buyers because the buyers are now only prevented from participating in pvp (which they did not participate in previously), they are pve-ers. In no way was their regular routine game play affected (aka pve and some wvw for pips). Slap on the wrist for the pve-ers. But better that something was done as opposed to nothing at all.

The buyers are down $400 each and I doubt they are getting there money back, Abjured did there job and got them first place, not their fault the buyers had likely never pvp’d before thus making it super obvious they paid someone to play for them.

Credit-card chargeback.

Ethereal Guardians [EG]
etherealguardians.com

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

KOPPER.1458

When you ban half of your pvp scene and wonder why it’s dying out
rip

When 1/2 your pvp scene is 5 players, you’ve got bigger problems then losing them to cheating.

I like the guys from Abjured, it’s a shame they chose this.

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

KOPPER.1458

It would not deter future buyers because the buyers are now only prevented from participating in pvp (which they did not participate in previously), they are pve-ers. In no way was their regular routine game play affected (aka pve and some wvw for pips). Slap on the wrist for the pve-ers. But better that something was done as opposed to nothing at all.

The buyers are down $400 each and I doubt they are getting there money back, Abjured did there job and got them first place, not their fault the buyers had likely never pvp’d before thus making it super obvious they paid someone to play for them.

Credit-card chargeback.

Since these people were from EG the same guild as you, is this insight into what they plan to do or have done?

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Posted by: The Only EAK.9456

The Only EAK.9456

I say instead of a crown, put a dunce cap over their heads that can’t be turned off…

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Posted by: kokiman.2364

kokiman.2364

When you ban half of your pvp scene and wonder why it’s dying out
rip

Good bait, but needs more salt.

Wasn’t bait. Was the truth. Legit banned the NA pvp scene so now what high tier gameplay are we gonna watch?
NA pvp scene is officially non-existant now ezpz

Hm let’s see account sharing and match manipulation. How would you react? Would you give them a slap on the wrist? Just because the PvP scene is small shouldn’t mean that this scene can do whatever they want rules still apply to them.

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Posted by: Cronos.6532

Cronos.6532

Since these people were from EG the same guild as you, is this insight into what they plan to do or have done?

no; only those kicked were the ones involved/aware of the account sharing

I say instead of a crown, put a dunce cap over their heads that can’t be turned off…

People would break the rules to get any kind of free hat other people don’t have

Ethereal Guardians [EG]
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Posted by: morrolan.9608

morrolan.9608

When you ban half of your pvp scene and wonder why it’s dying out
rip

When 1/2 your pvp scene is 5 players, you’ve got bigger problems then losing them to cheating.

I like the guys from Abjured, it’s a shame they chose this.

I liked the guys who left before this.

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

Wanze.8410

i dont play pvp, so let me get this straight: All these accounts were involved in rmt, account sharing and throwing matches and they werent even banned from the game?

Just dishonor?

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Bloin – Running around, tagging Keeps, getting whack on Scoobie Snacks.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

i dont play pvp, so let me get this straight: All these accounts were involved in rmt, account sharing and throwing matches and they werent even banned from the game?

Just dishonor?

Correct

[SoF]

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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

Lucentfir.7430

When you ban half of your pvp scene and wonder why it’s dying out
rip

I mean if you’re gonna cheat there has to be consequences to your actions. Otherwise you’re giving everyone else the idea this type of garbo is acceptable and Anet doesn’t care about it. While the top is now butchered, it just means that we’re going to have a new top tier filling in their place in time. Though idk said dishonored players are going to use that money they got to just get new accounts, or keep it and move on to another game.

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Posted by: Leaa.2943

Leaa.2943

When you ban half of your pvp scene and wonder why it’s dying out
rip

Good bait, but needs more salt.

Wasn’t bait. Was the truth. Legit banned the NA pvp scene so now what high tier gameplay are we gonna watch?
NA pvp scene is officially non-existant now ezpz

If that is the best NA can offer then maybe NA need to step up a kitteneating or bending rules should never be a corner stone in a top tier players game.
A bit baffled that you look at it from that pov.

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Posted by: Irvine.3487

Irvine.3487

MEGALULZ

/15char

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Posted by: Forestgreen.7981

Forestgreen.7981

At this point, can you guys just reward those in 2nd place and 3rd and bump them up? It only seems fair, it should be fairly easy to mail in the rewards.

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Posted by: Forestgreen.7981

Forestgreen.7981

At this point you guys can actually give the 2nd place and 3-4th place the rewards they deserve. Mailing a title and crown etc should be fairly easy.

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Posted by: Hammerguard.9834

Hammerguard.9834

LUL 15charrrrrrrrrr

… I still want tengu.

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Posted by: TheFisix.6047

TheFisix.6047

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Does this mean I am now the #1 Necro NA?

Come holla at yuh boy!: https://www.twitch.tv/fisix4phun

I love a good plug. I’ll come watch!

Thanks lad! Hyped to see more new and old friends!

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Enjoy your loss kids!
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Posted by: Dream Shake.8741

Dream Shake.8741

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Inappropriate quote. More fitting would be “Reputation takes years to build and only seconds to destroy”- Arnold Rothstein, Boardwalk Empire

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Inappropriate quote. More fitting would be “Reputation takes years to build and only seconds to destroy”- Arnold Rothstein, Boardwalk Empire

just goes to show his immaturity

JQ: Rikkity
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Posted by: Malandain.9532

Malandain.9532

Monthly unique item removed and given the rarest statbar (de)buff in game, permanent dishonor. Noone else has it and achieving such seems really hard, gratz guys.

Can one of the “offenders” share a screen for wikipedia purposes?

Guess they can still hotjoin, this really damages the hotjoin community!

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

Wanze.8410

i dont play pvp, so let me get this straight: All these accounts were involved in rmt, account sharing and throwing matches and they werent even banned from the game?

Just dishonor?

Correct

lol, what a joke

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Posted by: Skittledness.5106

Skittledness.5106

Good riddance abj.
Very unlikely but I hope there’s a new season after the expac or some sort of cash tourney officiated by Anet.That would be justice.

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