Guild Wars 2

I predict: Apex v Outplayed by children in the final with Apex winning in 4 games

infantrydiv.1620:

I predict: Apex v Outplayed by children in the final with Apex winning in 4 games

this but 3 games

Interrupting lord heal 2 complicated for NA.

Lux.7169:

Interrupting lord heal 2 complicated for NA.

It was nice to see the first non-auto entry team make it to the round of 8. I hope we see more of this the rest of the day.

style.6173:

It was nice to see the first non-auto entry team make it to the round of 8. I hope we see more of this the rest of the day.

They were an auto-entry team. They just lost their seeded position after some re-evaluation or something.

Lux.7169:

Interrupting lord heal 2 complicated for NA.

Let’s be honest, did we really expect level 2 PvPers to do the most basic PvE possible? Obviously AI is just too strong.

#asurasprophecies

Lux.7169:

style.6173:

It was nice to see the first non-auto entry team make it to the round of 8. I hope we see more of this the rest of the day.

They were an auto-entry team. They just lost their seeded position after some re-evaluation or something.

Oh. I thought there were only 8 auto selected teams.

do we get to pick any precursor?

I wonder why skyhammer isn’t one of the maps…

It seems US teams like rolling a lot tankier, compared to the “superior rotation” strats that top EU teams have.

It’s a shame we don’t see more EU style comps.

BlackBeard.2873:

It seems US teams like rolling a lot tankier, compared to the “superior rotation” strats that top EU teams have.

It’s a shame we don’t see more EU style comps.

A lot of US teams remind me of what we see on lower levels in EU – a lot of engi cond spam with comparatively many spiritrangers and little mesmerplay.
I really like that warriors seem to move away from hambow though.
That a/sw-lb looks quite potent.

BlackBeard.2873:

It seems US teams like rolling a lot tankier, compared to the “superior rotation” strats that top EU teams have.

It’s a shame we don’t see more EU style comps.

Rotation comps require a lot better team strategy, and most NA teams form and break very quickly. So it makes sense to run a meta that has high success with lower teamwork. You can see it in their rotations (or really lack thereof).

I love NA, but we really just have never had the top tier PvP scene EU has.

Looks like I overestimated Outplayed by children

Apex comp is really strong, especially vs. teams with condis. Bring the burst people! Bring that burst and push all 3 points!

Very boring to watch these bunker builds. Stream numbers less than half the first weekend.

Apex will win vs “Kpex” and prove that its not just the teamcomp

edit: it aint EZ bein KPz has to win vs Good Fights first ofc and im not sure if that happens

Bhawb.7408:

BlackBeard.2873:

It seems US teams like rolling a lot tankier, compared to the “superior rotation” strats that top EU teams have.

It’s a shame we don’t see more EU style comps.

Rotation comps require a lot better team strategy, and most NA teams form and break very quickly. So it makes sense to run a meta that has high success with lower teamwork. You can see it in their rotations (or really lack thereof).

I love NA, but we really just have never had the top tier PvP scene EU has.

Aside that, in EU even “mid tier” players know how to rotate. Their thieves (for example) just never really know when to leave the fight to go for a decap ( with an empty point being lonely for ages) and they never really knew( heavies) when to rotate on points without stacking.

It just seemed lot of mechanically good guys playing by themselves like hotjoin stacking.

It was very boring to watch, even more due to them running such “bunkerish” comps without dps ( mostly cuz of bad rotations, since dpses can’t afford that).

The only solution is to merge EU and NA, i know lot of NA guys playing in EU without any problem, NA seriously can’t continue like this.

Because rotations at a high level are a team based thing. You can’t properly match a really good team’s coordinated rotations with a bunch of essentially yoloQ players just doing what they think is best. NA just doesn’t have the team experience that EU does; EU just strictly has better teams and team players.

And there is no good way to combine EU/NA. One group ends up with ping issues, and while it might not always be an issue just in queues, you can’t have a competitive tournament where “half” of the teams are forced to play with 150-200 ping. Not to mention it’d require who knows how much work on ANet’s part to combine things (probably a lot, considering how awful a lot of their coding is), and months of bugs as a result.

I just want to say I called the NA meta a mile away. Almost every “good” team I’ve played in TPvP was mostly bunkers. It’s painfully boring to play against and equally boring to watch.

If I had to guess, we might see EU move this way as well. From what I watched of the EU tourney most teams just had updated versions of the "old"meta. They probably didn’t want to mess around with a new team composition so close to the tourney. That’s like I said just a guess but it’s hard to deny the effectiveness of Engis that either spam bombs or knockbacks.

Bhawb.7408:

And there is no good way to combine EU/NA. One group ends up with ping issues, and while it might not always be an issue just in queues, you can’t have a competitive tournament where “half” of the teams are forced to play with 150-200 ping.

It’s pretty simply actually. Have the final fours of a tournament play a set of matches while alternating the server locations. Even if there’s an advantages, as long as it’s balanced across the set, then it’s fair. You just can’t do it with single elimination.

DeWolfe.2174:

Bhawb.7408:

And there is no good way to combine EU/NA. One group ends up with ping issues, and while it might not always be an issue just in queues, you can’t have a competitive tournament where “half” of the teams are forced to play with 150-200 ping.

It’s pretty simply actually. Have the final fours of a tournament play a set of matches while alternating the server locations. Even if there’s an advantages, as long as it’s balanced across the set, then it’s fair. You just can’t do it with single elimination.

I could see some kind of All-Star NA vs EU tournament. I would include teams that made it to quarter finals of ToL

Crovax.7854:

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I really like that warriors seem to move away from hambow though.
That a/sw-lb looks quite potent.

On the first glance you might be right, but this 1v1-build has been viable for about as long as hambow has dominated the scene. Therefore Warriors running that build have strong 1v1 capabilities, but fall off in teamfights in comparision to hambow. Overall the warrior will try to do more on his own and without his team. In other words: That build is great if your team isn’t using the opportunities your stuns create anyways.

In addition to that hambow can still win most duels – in my opinion the difference just is not worth the loss in teamfight-capabilities.

please add links to the matches that correspond to the swiss matchup flowchart.
thanks.

The amount of people playing asuran in this tourny is ridiculous and something needs to be done to nerf or change asurans. It is so much harder to see asuran animations compared to the other races because of how tiny they are and gives them a huge advantage in pvp, especially in team fights where you have to be keeping track of multiple people and what abilities they are casting but it’s impossible when the entire enemy team is asura. I can’t see how anet can be this incompetent and not realize this after so long.

Thank you so much Arena Net for even hosting an NA Tourney, taking the game millions of players love to the next level! GW2 joining E-sports this is what we have all been waiting for XD Keep it up Arena Net :P Making the community proud and making the best times of our gaming lifes!

xGreeD.6018:

Crovax.7854:

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I really like that warriors seem to move away from hambow though.
That a/sw-lb looks quite potent.

On the first glance you might be right, but this 1v1-build has been viable for about as long as hambow has dominated the scene. Therefore Warriors running that build have strong 1v1 capabilities, but fall off in teamfights in comparision to hambow. Overall the warrior will try to do more on his own and without his team. In other words: That build is great if your team isn’t using the opportunities your stuns create anyways.

In addition to that hambow can still win most duels – in my opinion the difference just is not worth the loss in teamfight-capabilities.

Haha yeah. You can scrap my statement anyways since the far pushing build was only used the first couple of matches; Now it’s hammertime again.
I really had such high hopes for other builds being showcased.

But maybe Anet decides to take a closer look at this braindead engi condspam after the the tournament is over.

http://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=2m8s

I wonder if everybody is prepared to watch the biggest EGO battle in gw2 between apes vs lonely.

I bet gf win this.

Anyone know Master Splinter’s build from KPz?

that bug abuse… gave good fights some bad karma i guess xD

Darn, wanted the Engi team to win. Instead they got crushed ;(

well gf is dead, the end is near apex vs kpex we will get cancer if we watch it.

With how dominantly that KPz’s bunker might stacking comp handled Good Fights, I’m thinking Team Lonely will be getting rolled by Apex in similar fashion, since Team Lonely hasn’t had too long to build chemistry in coordinated spikes.

I’m hoping I’m wrong, I don’t want to see 1 dominant comp.

the EU tournament was more interesting to watch >.>

rooting for team lonely, hoping the finals aren’t a timer duel >.>

for Apex vs it aint EZ being KPz it really just comes down to skill since they have the same team setup

KPz is the PRIME example of fail balance. KPz literally played that comp for ONE day because their main classes were not working out in team queue. The bunker comp carries.

lol NA is so boring to watch, at least GF lost. Using deepstrike bug on a hambow lolol such fail, maybe they should rely on skill instead of a bug.

Hot-join is more entertaining than this.

this is so incredibly boring to watch, eu was fun to watch.

the only reason apex and kpz are winning anything is because of the fact they’re abusing the bunker meta. this meta is just cancerous.

These games with the bunker teams KPZ and Apex are so boring and rly makes me not wanna play atm.
i wish the game would promote damage builds more. skill/fast reflexes > bunkering

As much as we all hated decap engie, I think we need to see people play them more. Decap engie THRIVES vs. these stupid bunker comps by being the master of player vs. point game.

Edit: Also, congrats to team Lonely. While they didn’t get the win on Khylo, they did show how to beat a bunker team: outrotate them and push all 3 points.

^better than using a bug in a featured tournament

Good Fights rage quits. I’m bummed about this. So much for ambassadorial actions to grow the game. This very thing is a microcosm of what is wrong with the pvp attitude in this game.

Yes, this is extremely boring to watch.

Lol EU and NA third place teams rage quit. Nice show of character and class there!