Necromancers are way too OP
Mace/shield.
Hammer.
Stability + stuns.
A warrior can rip apart a necro with some well timed CCs, probably the war is the only class with a good chance to deafeat a necro in a close quarter fight ( that’s why i’m starting to see more warriors ).
Warrior will soon become the new meta, if necro stays this way.
Nah i have tried this with stability, they get insta removed and replaces my other boons to condis every 5 seconds.
I am done with Spvp i give up. I am going to play WvW and lets hope they fix the warrior one day.
Look i dont like playing other classes then a warrior, and thats my good right.
But how to kill him? I have sword/shield longbow. With 3 signets.
This guys places full stack of conditions on me that already do 30% of my HP melt away, and then he has his 5 minions around him making him very hard to target. And if you get a little closed he rips away your stability and fears you 24/7 and then i die because i cannot remove anymore conditions.
If there is even one in a team i am useless as hell. And this annoys the crap out of me..
Does anyone in ArenaNet spvp team ever plays Warrior and has done a fight vs a necro in company with a guardian?
Please make something for warrior so he is 50% less damage from conditions or give him signet.. Cannot be feared as passive and 3 condi remove as active.
Serious, i wanted to pick up on Spvp again because of all the new stuff.. but giving necro torment is another nightmare for a warrior… U really think we can stand still? press /sit and wait until it goes away?
We have constant 6 conditions on us, we get focussed because we dont have defencive abilities for longer then 3 seconds ( shield, endure pain).
I stand from range, shooting my longbow pew pew pew.. yay i 300 fire dmg and give some might.
I am a warrior, i want to fight IN the fight and move around without beeing punished to fight! I want to play warrior please.
Man, u use 3 signet in spvp, ok, gtfo, this kitten dont work, try to use stance (condition dont work in berseker…), omg enginner use condition too, nerf he plz —’… wake up man, u need learn how to play, try to make one condition war double sword, its nice
Challenger of the Arena
lol, necro killed warriors in every patch. now its bit harder , so i dont understand what you are complaining about
Man, u use 3 signet in spvp, ok, gtfo,
What are you talking about, i dont understand u.. i wont take tips from you lol.
Also " u need to learn how to play? " Why do you think i make these threads.
Hmm thanks for your feedback.
Btw. I tried necro and joined a tourney.
LOOOL
Won easy, destroyed the enemy.. Sooo much better then a warrior
Tip for warriors: Dont play warrior switch to necro.. seriously do it!
Nah i have tried this with stability, they get insta removed and replaces my other boons to condis every 5 seconds.
I am done with Spvp i give up. I am going to play WvW and lets hope they fix the warrior one day.
So how does this minion mancer(lol by itself) turn you boons into conditions every 5 seconds? You faced a leeeeet hacker, or you have no idea what your talking about.
Nah i have tried this with stability, they get insta removed and replaces my other boons to condis every 5 seconds.
I am done with Spvp i give up. I am going to play WvW and lets hope they fix the warrior one day.
So how does this minion mancer(lol by itself) turn you boons into conditions every 5 seconds? You faced a leeeeet hacker, or you have no idea what your talking about.
I heard necro is running 30/30/30/30/30 build and have can use all utility skills at once (trolling). Ppl just dont know what necro is and how it works.
Ok, these nerf threads are just getting silly now.
Well i dont know if u guys ever play Spvp these days.. but there is Always atleast 2 in one team.
Now u go make a warrior and try to play and have fun, instead of responding like a total kitten like the rest of the replies.
Also the whole Spvp are bunch of kittens, when u ask something the anwsers are.
You need to learn to play kittening noob.
You dont know how the game works noob.
You dont know what your talking about.
How about the game teaches me, without searching 100 builds on so many forums?
I jump into Spvp and they expect me how to play vs all classes.. ye right. Keep your Spvp nerdies, keep insulting players trying to learn.
Why do you think so many play WvW instead of Spvp
Well i dont know if u guys ever play Spvp these days.. but there is Always atleast 2 in one team.
Now u go make a warrior and try to play and have fun, instead of responding like a total kitten like the rest of the replies.
Also the whole Spvp are bunch of kittens, when u ask something the anwsers are.
You need to learn to play kittening noob.
You dont know how the game works noob.
You dont know what your talking about.
How about the game teaches me, without searching 100 builds on so many forums?
I jump into Spvp and they expect me how to play vs all classes.. ye right. Keep your Spvp nerdies, keep insulting players trying to learn.
Why do you think so many play WvW instead of Spvp
1.2-3 necros on team: you were unlucky!
2.How long to you play on sPvP (i assume you are talking about hot join), every class had time, when they dominated every other class there (not warrior) and it wasnt fun and it isnt (for me)
3.Tournamens shouldnt be easy, thats why they are touraments. Still you have a point here : I am still hoping they will bring Paid tpvp back, so teams can play there and players who is trying to learn ,could play free tpvp.
i just honestly laughed for liek 5 minutes when i read the title. like they have been so bad for so long and then you see “Necromancers are way too OP”
I think Necro is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills whiners and doesn’t afraid of anything.
(edited by Envy.1679)
Well i dont know if u guys ever play Spvp these days.. but there is Always atleast 2 in one team.
A number of the people who have responded to you in this thread have more than 250 wins in tPvP since the ladder started recording. I am guessing that compared to you there experience is multiple times greater.
That said, some people have been less than polite to you. That is unfortunate, but you got flamed because you have come here attempting to state that Necromancers are wildly OP without considering that your build is just wildly inept at dealing with them, and rather than tweaking things that you are doing, you are attempting to create an impression that Necromancer needs a huge nerf. Experienced tPvP players know that a huge nerf hammer is not in order, and that if anything is needed it is just minor tweaking.
Now u go make a warrior and try to play and have fun, instead of responding like a total kitten like the rest of the replies.
Warrior is still in a tough spot. No one is disputing that.
Also the whole Spvp are bunch of kittens, when u ask something the anwsers are. … … …
You had a bad experience, and that is not what anyone wants. However, sPvP and in particular tPvP is a competitive environment. As such most people expect some degree of competence in the people that choose to play it. When that degree of competence escapes someone that they are made to team with, then they get frustrated and behave badly. I’m not excusing the behavior, but I understand the frustration. If you are trying to learn how to play effectively in tPvP, then you should ask some friends to help you. You will find that with only a few hours invested your competence level win increase dramatically vs. if you just jump in blind and see how it goes.
I jump into Spvp and they expect me how to play vs all classes.. ye right. Keep your Spvp nerdies, keep insulting players trying to learn.
I have to assume from this statement that you are playing Hot Join. That place is a breeding ground for bad players that talk smack. Don’t even take anything you hear in there seriously.
Why do you think so many play WvW instead of Spvp
Frankly, because they lack the ability, will and tactical understanding to perform in a competitive environment and it is more fun for them to run in zergs or roam around killing PvE elements that are mixed into the WvW world (or they like jumping puzzles, lol). You cannot compare WvW to any form of PvP. They are basically different games and there are innumerable reasons why one might prefer one to the other.
Mace/shield.
Hammer.
Stability + stuns.
A warrior can rip apart a necro with some well timed CCs, probably the war is the only class with a good chance to deafeat a necro in a close quarter fight ( that’s why i’m starting to see more warriors ).
Warrior will soon become the new meta, if necro stays this way.
Probably the first to start running this in light of the leaked notes.. it is the best way of dealing with necros as a warrior, however it can be dealt with easily if they actually know how to play (with blinds, cripples -> heavy condi pressure etc)
From my run ins with pro necro players post patch, my only fear is of fotm players realising the full potential of the class as it stands.
Granted that necro is a strong counter to burst warriors, it has been made clear our stance on the matter. Lets see what the rest of the community has to say, I’m certainly not going to be ‘that guy’ that screams nerf.
Phaatonn, London UK
Thanks Myrmidian Eudoros for the reply and taking my concerns as a warrior more serious ( wont quote because of the long message ).
I dont want necromancers to be nerfed or something like that, i just want the warrior act more like a warrior and can be a force when he is on the battlefield and not that he needs to hide in every peek corner to spot a weak opponent for the last hit. Or stand on a high cliff to AOE them with a longbow.
Warriors are when they are affected by boon removal, remove might, stability the most targeted professions because of the insta down rate, making them nice ressing points for the enemy down state players.
The F1 skill trait to remove boons equal to your adrenaline bar is a good idea to give warriors more of a condition removal, but if you use a sword’s F1 skill you stand still and you are again a stale not moving sitting duck.
Longbow on the other had has the mobile F1 condition removal and that works awesome in comparison as before.
Yes i need to learn Spvp as a warrior, but sometimes it feels more like a study to get it right.
I dont want necromancers to be nerfed or something like that,
then next time dont name the thread “necromancers too op”