Classes used in Unranked now:
-Scrapper
-Dragonhunter
-Thief(mostly high burst power, some decent condi builds sneak in)
-Bunker ele(High End pvp because bad players get punished now)
-Reaper
-Rev(both condi and flat damage)
-Killshot warrior, wildfire warrior is “Safer” because it cant be reflected, but both seem viable in low-tier pvp(amber-saphire)
-Druid is good in teamfights, but isnt used very often
-Mesmers are really challenging to fight (if they are good) in 1v1’s, when outnumbered they tend to get focused down quite quickly
Classes used in Unranked now:
-Scrapper
-Dragonhunter
-Thief(mostly high burst power, some decent condi builds sneak in)
-Bunker ele(High End pvp because bad players get punished now)
-Reaper
-Rev(both condi and flat damage)
-Killshot warrior, wildfire warrior is “Safer” because it cant be reflected, but both seem viable in low-tier pvp(amber-saphire)
-Druid is good in teamfights, but isnt used very often
-Mesmers are really challenging to fight (if they are good) in 1v1’s, when outnumbered they tend to get focused down quite quickly
Not my experience.
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Can you spell “thieves” properly? I am starting to think there is a correlation between that and people who get killed by them.
When I see Thiefs I tighten the grip on my mouse, when I see thieves I tighten the grip on my wallet OP is being dramatic, but I’m afraid he does have a point. Poop league players have a hard time getting better at the game now because they are forced to run trash builds, because most builds that require any finesse kinda get punished hard.
Sorry to hear that Apollo, but it does happen… Mybe tomorrow when ranked starts again you will see a change, but my games have been fairly varied, with the least seen classes being mesmer and elementalist
Reapers + thiefs seem most. (4+ a game)
Rangers + dragonhunters are very common ( 3+ a game)
Rev + scrapper close up
Warrior + ele low but constantly showing up.
Mesmer is the rare one.
I dont think you can blame thieves for appearing in matches. We were trash tier last season, we are viable now, people want to enjoy it while they can. Unlike necro .or rev, thieves dont see the high player count because of their awesomness, but mostly because the profession has a rather large fanbase. There are always a lot of people who like to play the assassin/rogue way in every game, and in gw2 we have to choose between thief and……mesmer. Ranger perhaps, but all rangers are druids now.
The necro plaque has, in fact, become a problem.
Not only is it a strong but cheesy class, im pretty sure what were seeing right now is a disgrace to real necros everywhere.
You know: the people who actually played the class before it was good and who are now thrown together with all those evil-overlord-wannabes
90% of all necros i encounter cant deal with an opponent that manages to fight back, and the good players must feel ashamed for what the bad players do.
I have noted a high concentration of necros and thieves. At least in the games I played over the weekend. I’d queue as a necro, and there would be 3-5 other necros in the same game. I queue as a thief (was trying to learn) and there would be 3-4 other thieves. In the same game.
So I started queuing as the one I didn’t want to play, and swapped to the other once I loaded in to the match. Seemed to be the only way to make it so there weren’t half a dozen of the same class, that I was trying to play, in the match.
Overall though, I do see a lot of DH and Rev as well. I don’t typically run into too many engis, eles, or mes. And if I do, it’s usually the same few people.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
thieves dont see the high player count because of their awesomness, but mostly because the profession has a rather large fanbase.
I love going up against a good thief in the opposing team, keeps me on my toes, unfortunately most just like deathmatch type of play and are plain bad In guild wars 1 you had the assassin, same problem.
Necros and DH’s are another plague really, win or lose, they tend to stagnate play quite a bit due to their one dimensional nature
I’m fine with mostly every class, but I’m really tired of the brain dead Aoe spam that covers a whole point. I’d be in favor if every class had Aoe to spam, then we could all just stand there and see who dies inside them the fastest.
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Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
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well, if there are so many thiefs, It clearly has nothing to do with balance, cuz thiefs are still mid tier at best.
And reaper is pretty much on an equal level as the other top-builds (scrapper, ele, rev). I guess ppl just like to play reaper and thief, regardless of balance. Not much you can do about that.
Last season most of my games had: revenant, mesmer, engi, druid, elementalist, guard and only after that necromancer, thief and warrior. So whats the problem again?
I love how ppl Q-Q about thief… literally if you dodge/I miss my opener I’m for sure dead. If you reset fight I’m dead. If you land a CC on me, I’m dead. If you save your gap closers, I’m dead. If you out sustain through my Initiative I’m dead. If you apply condis to me I’m dead. If I land my opener and then keep high pressure until I loose ‘revealed’ I will win, unless you spam dodges until I miss backstab in which case, you guessed it, I’m dead.
- whole season thieves couldn’t really pvp (unless you were ready to be subject to massive harassment and griefing which got completely ignored by customer support /slowclap )
- unranked doesn’t affect your standing in ranked so you can mess around on a class that is actually fun because it is so fast paced
so, people play class they couldn’t play for long time
dw, ranked will be flooded with scrappers, revs and reapers
Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
I just started a week ago and picked Necro, because it looks like a fun class.
I never checked out the pro’s or con’s to the class, nor did I check to see how good or bad they’re in pvp.
I basically looked at the skills and thought it looked enjoyable.
I play a Sorc in almost all mmo’s and wanted the casting class, but without the elements that usually come with a Sorc.
Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
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Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
I do not get the whole rev thing. i play thief, maybe 1 in 20 revs beats me in 1v1 and im not exactly the best player on that field.
Its a safe win if im running condi, still an easy win on power. Either each and every good rev is fighting in the pro leagues, or we are simply hardcountering them.
And btw: we are still faster, no matter what you say, you cant outrun a thief.
Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
I do not get the whole rev thing. i play thief, maybe 1 in 20 revs beats me in 1v1 and im not exactly the best player on that field.
Its a safe win if im running condi, still an easy win on power. Either each and every good rev is fighting in the pro leagues, or we are simply hardcountering them.
And btw: we are still faster, no matter what you say, you cant outrun a thief.
You havent faced a decent Rev yet. Also, Revs can do ANYTHING better than Thief in teamfights.
There’s a reason why top thieves rerolled to Rev
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Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
I do not get the whole rev thing. i play thief, maybe 1 in 20 revs beats me in 1v1 and im not exactly the best player on that field.
Its a safe win if im running condi, still an easy win on power. Either each and every good rev is fighting in the pro leagues, or we are simply hardcountering them.
And btw: we are still faster, no matter what you say, you cant outrun a thief.
Bc thief has all neccesary tools to beat rev.
50% slow uptime which crits for 4k each? Check <Op as kitten btw.
Pressuring rev in Shiro bc his healing ability is crap? Check
Enough evades to avoid the most important attacks? Check
Glint heal useless vs anyone with brain in 1v1? Check
Can kite rev between attacks? Check
The difference is we hold better in teamfight, support teamamtes unlike thief so in general we are a better pick.
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Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
I do not get the whole rev thing. i play thief, maybe 1 in 20 revs beats me in 1v1 and im not exactly the best player on that field.
Its a safe win if im running condi, still an easy win on power. Either each and every good rev is fighting in the pro leagues, or we are simply hardcountering them.
And btw: we are still faster, no matter what you say, you cant outrun a thief.
Bc thief has all neccesary tools to beat rev.
50% slow uptime which crits for 4k each? Check <Op as kitten btw.
Pressuring rev in Shiro bc his healing ability is crap? Check
Enough evades to avoid the most important attacks? Check
Glint heal useless vs anyone with brain in 1v1? Check
Can kite rev between attacks? Check
Bc Rev has all the necessary tools to beat thief.
Tons of blocks? Check
Launch and forget heal? Check (you can just presume a thief’s attack and activate it)
Enough teleport to perma chase Thief around till downed in teamfight? Check (Revs makes the thief utiltize all their ini just to stay alive)
Can kite 2v1 on point (contest)? Check
Revealed? Check
Close to equal DPS? Check
Boons? Check
A rev has an easier time killing a thief, be it 1v1 or teamfight. If a thief can beat you, that’s because you made alot of mistakes.
Thieves cannot make errors. If they do, just 1, they’re dead.
Rev is much more casual and less punishing due its amount of blocks, evades, dps, heals (which are insane strong in teamfights).
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Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
That was mainly for the bandwagon necro players, I don’t really care or worry about thieves. I should’ve been more specific, forgive me. You are correct though, I don’t watch pro leagues. I don’t give a kitten about pro leagues.
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If you don’t get it right the first time, keep on sucking until you do!
Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
That was mainly for the bandwagon necro players, I don’t really care or worry about thieves. I should’ve been more specific, forgive me. You are correct though, I don’t watch pro leagues. I don’t give a kitten about pro leagues.
thieves are wayyyyy OP with staff 2 atm.. so plzzz. dont mention me it’s not part of the meta.. & they aint that squishy as well.
Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
I do not get the whole rev thing. i play thief, maybe 1 in 20 revs beats me in 1v1 and im not exactly the best player on that field.
Its a safe win if im running condi, still an easy win on power. Either each and every good rev is fighting in the pro leagues, or we are simply hardcountering them.
And btw: we are still faster, no matter what you say, you cant outrun a thief.
Bc thief has all neccesary tools to beat rev.
50% slow uptime which crits for 4k each? Check <Op as kitten btw.
Pressuring rev in Shiro bc his healing ability is crap? Check
Enough evades to avoid the most important attacks? Check
Glint heal useless vs anyone with brain in 1v1? Check
Can kite rev between attacks? Check
Bc Rev has all the necessary tools to beat thief.
Tons of blocks? Check
Launch and forget heal? Check (you can just presume a thief’s attack and activate it)
Enough teleport to perma chase Thief around till downed in teamfight? Check (Revs makes the thief utiltize all their ini just to stay alive)
Can kite 2v1 on point (contest)? Check
Revealed? Check
Close to equal DPS? Check
Boons? Check
A rev has an easier time killing a thief, be it 1v1 or teamfight. If a thief can beat you, that’s because you made alot of mistakes.
Thieves cannot make errors. If they do, just 1, they’re dead.
Rev is much more casual and less punishing due its amount of blocks, evades, dps, heals (which are insane strong in teamfights).
In average 1v1 between rev and thief its true for rev having easier time. But at higher level they are quite balanced against each other. Its not like rev can screw against thief either. And our mobility is up only in Shiro, once we swap we are slow as turtle
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Oh no Thieve’s and necro’s got buffs and now you’re seeing them more often in matches, since people are abusing the new 3 month yolo program...so surprising.
Fixed that for you.
Whats there to abuse on Thieves? They’re weak as kitten (compared to meta) and not part of the meta.
Guess you didn’t watch Pro Leagues.
Ppl should be glad when facing teams with a Thief or 2, easier to win. Just make sure you got 1 Rev. All you need to squash both Thieves.
I do not get the whole rev thing. i play thief, maybe 1 in 20 revs beats me in 1v1 and im not exactly the best player on that field.
Its a safe win if im running condi, still an easy win on power. Either each and every good rev is fighting in the pro leagues, or we are simply hardcountering them.
And btw: we are still faster, no matter what you say, you cant outrun a thief.
Bc thief has all neccesary tools to beat rev.
50% slow uptime which crits for 4k each? Check <Op as kitten btw.
Pressuring rev in Shiro bc his healing ability is crap? Check
Enough evades to avoid the most important attacks? Check
Glint heal useless vs anyone with brain in 1v1? Check
Can kite rev between attacks? Check
Bc Rev has all the necessary tools to beat thief.
Tons of blocks? Check
Launch and forget heal? Check (you can just presume a thief’s attack and activate it)
Enough teleport to perma chase Thief around till downed in teamfight? Check (Revs makes the thief utiltize all their ini just to stay alive)
Can kite 2v1 on point (contest)? Check
Revealed? Check
Close to equal DPS? Check
Boons? Check
A rev has an easier time killing a thief, be it 1v1 or teamfight. If a thief can beat you, that’s because you made alot of mistakes.
Thieves cannot make errors. If they do, just 1, they’re dead.
Rev is much more casual and less punishing due its amount of blocks, evades, dps, heals (which are insane strong in teamfights).
In average 1v1 between rev and thief its true for rev having easier time. But at higher level they are quite balanced against each other. Its not like rev can screw against thief either. And our mobility is up only in Shiro, once we swap we are slow as turtle
Not one thief was present in the pro league finals. Each team was running 2 revs with the exception of 1 team.
In those games you had professional thief players who are now playing rev. Literally players with over 3 yrs experience on thief playing rev with maybe 4 months experience on it.
That’s a problem and I hope anet brings the hammer on my rev.
guys its not 1v1 rather group v group
rev better in group fight and can do good in 1v1 versus some much up
if its versus thief rev can hold better the cap while thief can
so give a thief more 10% dmg it wont matter if he cant hold the cap or have nice aoe might stacking evading skill or 2 heals and 2 stun etc…
Why would i care what happens in an event with less than 10k concurrent viewers world wide, some of Total Biscuits Videos have more views than this ESL stuf.
I care about what i play every day on my regular queues and the fact is Necros and Thieves run over everything they come across and it shows in the ratios of classes we come across.
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Locked out of JP (Wintersday) 2015
Why would i care what happens in an event with less than 10k concurrent viewers world wide, some of Total Biscuits Videos have more views than this ESL stuf.
I care about what i play every day on my regular queues and the fact is Necros and Thieves run over everything they come across and it shows in the ratios of classes we come across.
Classes used in Unranked now:
-Scrapper
-Dragonhunter
-Thief(mostly high burst power, some decent condi builds sneak in)
-Bunker ele(High End pvp because bad players get punished now)
-Reaper
-Rev(both condi and flat damage)
-Killshot warrior, wildfire warrior is “Safer” because it cant be reflected, but both seem viable in low-tier pvp(amber-saphire)
-Druid is good in teamfights, but isnt used very often
-Mesmers are really challenging to fight (if they are good) in 1v1’s, when outnumbered they tend to get focused down quite quickly
Not my experience.
Dude don’t forget the double mesmers well, the cc that they bring in tf is insane!!! But yeah, most of them switched to condI PU mesmer but the chrono mesmers are still strong in tf.
Why would i care what happens in an event with less than 10k concurrent viewers world wide, some of Total Biscuits Videos have more views than this ESL stuf.
I care about what i play every day on my regular queues and the fact is Necros and Thieves run over everything they come across and it shows in the ratios of classes we come across.
Sounds like an L2P -issue.
Yeah based on the excellent track record of the balance team.
The term Exploit means nothing in GW2 –
Vials Maize Balm Exploit(Halloween) 2014
Locked out of JP (Wintersday) 2015
Classes used in Unranked now:
-Scrapper
-Dragonhunter
-Thief(mostly high burst power, some decent condi builds sneak in)
-Bunker ele(High End pvp because bad players get punished now)
-Reaper
-Rev(both condi and flat damage)
-Killshot warrior, wildfire warrior is “Safer” because it cant be reflected, but both seem viable in low-tier pvp(amber-saphire)
-Druid is good in teamfights, but isnt used very often
-Mesmers are really challenging to fight (if they are good) in 1v1’s, when outnumbered they tend to get focused down quite quickly
Not my experience.
Dude don’t forget the double mesmers well, the cc that they bring in tf is insane!!! But yeah, most of them switched to condI PU mesmer but the chrono mesmers are still strong in tf.
then where the kitten are they in the past weekend’s pro games? 1? LOL, please stop trying to downplay how terrible Mesmer is right now. And all the thieves trying to downplay their abilities to avoid a nerf, they are not so squishy and with staff they are doing tons of damage with good evades.
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OP is being dramatic, but I’m afraid he does have a point. Poop league players have a hard time getting better at the game now because they are forced to run trash builds, because most builds that require any finesse kinda get punished hard.