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Posted by: Anthony.1579

Anthony.1579

So i been trying to master engineer in spvp.

I follow meta battle’s advice and they have decent builds. I do a mix of solo q and q with my guild.

I feel very useless in spvp. I die too fast, and cannot get my combos or “rotations” to ever work because i am always the first to be targeted,.

I tried scrapper and grenades and rifle and flame thrower. It seems that i can do decent burst but nothing compared to others classes. Also i feel like i cant ever spec pure damage or pure tanky ..but have to go a mixture. I also feel most of my skills are useless in spvp.

LIke my elixirs are useful in a might stacking build, while my gadgets do no damage and offer very little utility.

My kits offer the best it seems in options, but it seems from a utility stand point. I Can try a condition build but people survive my conditional burst. Also my cc is useless because most people seem immune to my cc due to stability.

Also as an engineer i find my self unable to solo an enemy player 1v1 in spvp unless they are unskilled or not aggressive.

I know turrets are useless. I also know that elixirs can be useful in a might stacking build, but it doesn’t offer much damage or usefulness. I feel like my utility abilities are useless compared to other professions.

in WvW pvp i can become a real powerful tank, and help my allies with stuns healing and damage. I don’t know how or why the scaling doesn’t translate well to spvp. Maybe the other wvw players are undergeared or under leveled.

Lastly i just want to say that i know what other classes abilities are….but i feel like i cannot escape the “hybrid” build that engineer has. My traits are both offense and defensive and some utility.

My Skills (utility) feel very useless. They seem to be weak or have no game breaking effect in spvp.

Maybe i am doing something wrong or just a bad. I have a razor naga and know how to react. But i feel like if i could spec pure damage or pure tank i could do good in spvp.

By pure damage i mean heavy burn condition, heavy ranged berserker cannon, or some way to out pressure other professions.

By defense, i wish i could survive all the pressure the enemy puts on me. Or at least, be able to tank while the enemy dies to my allies pressure.

Any ways this is just my engineer experience so far with spvp.

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Posted by: Euthymias.7984

Euthymias.7984

>I die too fast
What do you find yourself dying to most often? What melts you quickest? If its conditions, the Elixir that turns them into boons can be a great assist when you’re bombed, and even has a toolbelt that does the same on a smaller scale for yourself/your allies. The rest just comes from minding your position and knowing when to withdraw so that you aren’t as easily focused anymore while you recover.

>Grenades, Riffle
Usable, but not that great in the current Meta. Power Hammer’s the big thing atm.

>Condi-Engi
With the amount of conditions flying around, you may or may not have a hard time melting someone with conditions. Its easier if your target’s focus fired to keep pressure up on someone, but difficult 1v1 due to a lack of defensive options. It may also not be too effective if the opponent you’re fighting is carrying lots of cleansing.

>I cant 1v1 someone
Practice more. Even if you cant kill, a good Scrapper’s a tough customer to wear down for a number of classes, and you can always reset the fight/retreat with sneak gyro. If you’re good at surviving an enemy burst, you can most likely retaliate in kind and win a drawn out battle of attrition.

>Utilities are weak
Some might be underwhelming, but I find that Bulwark and E-Gun can really add to you/your group’s sustain. Super Elixir and its Mist toolbelt skill (if you dont need the stunbreak at the time) are good for small condition management, and blasting it slight field for AoE Retal has its uses against Thieves. Blast Gyro’s been nice for harassing point bunkers and can potentially help decap or set up Thunderclap, on top of having Superspeed acccess and an additional Stunbreak.

Elixir X can be used really well on a coordinated team to focus fire a transformed foe, and the tornado can blow off point bunkers if they dont have lots of access to Stab for an eventual decap.

Medic Gyro can be used while you’re being CC’d and you can detonate it quickly for another dose of super speed regen. Blasting/leaping (hammer 3) in your water fields from Turret/Medi Gyro (toolbelt) can keep your health up while evading….

tl:dr, Try hammer, try blasting/leaping in your fields and carefully timing your utilities (and carrying the right ones if an enemy comp may require it), mind your positioning and know when to withdraw.

(edited by Euthymias.7984)

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Posted by: Pakkazull.6894

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Run Paladin’s Amulet, Bulwark Gyro and hammer and use Rocket Charge and Acid Bomb with water fields and I don’t really see how you can complain about dying too quickly.

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Posted by: Sezz.3029

Sezz.3029

He’s trolling you and you both fell for it.

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Posted by: Pakkazull.6894

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Maybe so, but then it’s a kitten troll attempt.

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Posted by: Zintrothen.1056

Zintrothen.1056

Quite a lot of effort for a troll… Maybe you’re the troll!

Metabattle will suggest Medic Gyro and Elixir gun. A combo you can do is f1 and EG 4 for a healing blast finisher. You can also use Hammer 3 in the field for 2 leap finisher heals. It’s a powerful combo that makes a difference in your sustain.

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Posted by: Anthony.1579

Anthony.1579

Hey guys how are you doing.

Ok so like – i started playing guild wars 2 after a 5 month break. I used to use soldier’s ammulet with hammer and dominate.

I think nerfs, and spvp changes really caught me by surprise.

I know that conditions are still awesome so far, i have to find a good build for conditions with engineer.

Um…it seems scrapper build got nerfed pretty hard in pvp. I can own in unranked, but not in ranked.

Since i came so late, i believe i am unable to raise up in the ranks because the season is almost over.

Oh yea, engineer is a pretty strong class, just doesn’t have much team support (in my opinion) but so far i just joined a guild and doing wvw. I like scrapper for wvw as a tanky support stun bot with decent burst damage. Um…. If i play spvp again, i’ll probably do a rifle toolkit burst build. OR a flame thrower pistol burn burst build.

Any ways sorry for my ranting on my last post. I was tired and it was 7 am in the morning.

Thanks for all the useful tips, and i will keep practicing. Thanks

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Posted by: Anthony.1579

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oh yea i wanted to say, they should make an arena mode with 5v5 and if a person goes down – they don’t respawn. That would be a lot of fun.

I want to clarify that um – i feel engineer doesn’t have as much support as guardian does. But engineer has good damage. Obviously i am a noob and don’t know engineer that well, And i also hate dying in spvp haha.

I wish i could go on a killing spree as engineer, but i think eles or mesmers are better at that. I also need to learn how to play – by timing my combo finishers, defensive coldowns, my stuns pulls cc, and my burst combos.

Thanks for reading this, i am going to try and master engineer someday. Take care all and be well.