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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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Played other MMO’s a bit but no expert. Wondering on the classes that are easy to learn and do well on. I know some people will say just choose what you enjoy… but theres nothing worse then doing that then finding out people who a crap can wreck you unless you pull off all CD’s and timing etc.
I thought the necro looked cool but i have heard it’s harder to play and is countered a lot. I tend to prefer ranged classes.

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Posted by: Aphoticrain.8420

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http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki

Pick a build. Play it keep if like switch to something else if nah.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

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warrior is easy and solid. the meta build has both melee and ranged weapons.

if you wouldn’t have said easy to learn I would have said engineer.

but any class is hard to learn to play well because even if you want to be good at warrior for example, you still have to spend time playing every other class so you can really understand their weaknesses etc.

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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Thanks! Just wondering. Like to mention i would like a class i can do well solo on… like if i was roaming alone in WvW or just in general pvp… one that is good in surviving but also gets alot of kills if played well.
I do like the look of necro do they match this or?

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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I just don’t want to say enjoy a class get it to max level and find out even if i get really good i still need team with me do excel.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

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Thief is the best at roaming but higher skillcap, not ranged.
Warrior is solid at roaming against idiots(most in wvw) but also not ranged, yet easy to play.
Engineer is good roamer, mid range, average skill cap.
Ranger is great roamer, great range, average skill cap. Not amazing in pvp though.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Ranger is great roamer, great range, average skill cap. Not amazing in pvp though.

tell that to eura.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

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When I first saw eura a long time ago I was impressed but then..not so much.

Also even if he was god-tier it doesn’t make the class amazing! Compensating a bad class with skill doesn’t change the class at all.

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Posted by: Impact.2780

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It sounds to me like you want to play necro but are afraid you’ll be dissapointed and find it doesn’t have what you want. Necro can roam, but it’s slow. Condi necro is a threat to any class in 1v1 and can counter the celestial builds of the current meta. It’s usually the first target to be focused down in PvP, and I imagine it will have a high skill cap to be good at in WvW because every other class can out run it. Condi necro does its damage from range.

Engineer has what you want your class to have. It is a great roamer in PvP and WvW, and can be very good at applying conditions or be a jack of all trades with fair burst, condi, and support. It prefers to throw grenades from range but has no shortage of utility to deal with close combat situations, has lots of different skills, strong area heals, and damage mitigation. Ironically for you though, condi necro counters engineer because engineers don’t have much condi cleanse, and necro’s both deal great damage from conditions and transferring conditions they get affected with back to their target.

Thieves, mesmers and rangers are more of a survive through skillful play and escape to survive rather than out last like an engineer would. However, for WvW, you can’t rely on being able to out last your opponents as much as you can in PvP with allies always nearby, so mobility is great for WvW.

I’d say if you want to do mostly PvP, try your necro or an engineer. If you want to do mainly WvW, look at engineer, ranger, or thief. That’s not to say ranger and thief are bad in PvP, mind. I’m recommending based on your comments.

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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@Robert I agree, i mean i don’t know maybe ranger is good but were looking at the average ranger here… he may just be very talented in that class which many are not.

@Impact Yeah thats exactly what i’m worried about. Engineers seems like a good choice. I’m leveling a elementalist at the moment which is fun but i’m not the biggest fan of all it’s skills. I am looking to do mostly Pvp to be honest. Although if i’m trying to learn if i was a necro being attacked first… i’m sorry but in pvp situations when theres multiple people on me i always die… if i’m trying to learn and getting jumped by alot of people i will just not learn anything.
I do think necro looks quite cool though but in all fairness i haven’t gone through all of it’s skilled only got it to like level 12.

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Posted by: Impact.2780

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You can go straight into heart of the mists for PvP via the portal in Lion’s Arch, or right clicking a friend who is in a hot join or custom arena match and clicking "join friend in PvP." In HotM you are level 80 with access to most of your skills and traits.

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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Thanks i will definitely try that. Just wondering (you may have answered it all ready kind of) can necro 1v1 very well… possible even 1v2 if a player is good?

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Posted by: Impact.2780

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You’ll get mixed answers for questions like that because everyone has different experiences - they have different skill levels and encounter other classes used by players of different skill levels.

To my knowledge and experience, necro is strong in 1v1 against any class, with the possible exception of a good warrior since they have a lot of condi clear, passive heals and condition immunity. That said though, most warriors run shouts now which shouldn’t be a problem. A necro should win a fight if they cross another player off point, and should be able to pressure a point enough to force reinforcement, but they can easily be overwhelmed and are not bunkers, so 1v2 would be problematic. That said, it can be done since a lot of compositions opt for less damage and more sustain, so if you use your extra health pool and plague form really well you could sustain a while - even on point long enough for back up. An organised team that runs with a condi necro will want to protect their necro because their necro can pretty much allow them to dominate the team fight, hence why necros are usually the primary target.

Edit: To clarify, the necro build I have in mind when saying all this is the standard/meta terror build of 0/6/4/0/4; carrion amulet, not rabid.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

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Necro is the main target because they lack disengage the most. Also they are dangerous if left unattended.
Engineer is easy to lock down too but they got a block and perma swiftness and decent mobility with rifle/elixirgun so they are harder to kill but they still get pretty heavily focused.

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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Oh ok. See not being able to escape… and being focused… i mean lets be honest unless i’m with a good team or people i’m talking through skype i’m going to be left unattended due to people just wanting to get kills.. so learning won’t likely be fun.
Then again if they are crap they may not know to focus a necro so much then again this is an old game… most players probable know that kind of thing.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

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I would say go engineer.
Plenty of range, doesn’t require babysitting like necro.

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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Thanks. Just wondering i was on my elementalist went on Wvw… i mean i know my gear must be real crap compared to others (pretty sure it’s not scaled)… i get dropped in about 1.5 seconds. Is pvp in gw2 like that? I remember trying to learn Wow… i would just get killed before i can even cast anything… guess i need to hit 22 to find out

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Posted by: Impact.2780

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Stats in PvP are lower, and more controlled because you use a PvP amulet for all your stats, not individual gear pieces. All stats are normalised so you won’t be facing full ascended as exotic. WvWers use stat boosting consumables which you can’t use in PvP.

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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Just want to say this game in regard to pvp is really good like just the way they allow people to be on par gear wise with all players… trying to learn on other games when everyone else has far better gear and obviously more skill is just impossible.

Not sure if i’m allowed to post images yet on forum but i have attached one… what you guys think of my necro? Pretty good considering he’s in starter gear? :P

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

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Just want to say this game in regard to pvp is really good like just the way they allow people to be on par gear wise with all players… trying to learn on other games when everyone else has far better gear and obviously more skill is just impossible.

Not sure if i’m allowed to post images yet on forum but i have attached one… what you guys think of my necro? Pretty good considering he’s in starter gear? :P

lol new players are cute. I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way at all. welcome! i agree that pvp in all games should not be a gear grind! pvp is supposed to be about skill! as far as your necro looks…. there are literally thousands of skins in this game and hundreds more dyes to color each piece so…. just make it the way you like it!

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Posted by: Pvprod.7031

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Ignore the like clothing colours talking about the like charr guy etc. Like the face mask, black fur kinda match the necro look?