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Posted by: Ice of Dragons.1637

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Now that there ranks are sadly easier to gain. There is not much to do for hardcore pvp players. I was thinking why not add new pvp ranks, that really don’t get u additional regards and perks, but only show how much u play/good u are.

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Posted by: bhagwad.4281

bhagwad.4281

Now that there ranks are sadly easier to gain. There is not much to do for hardcore pvp players. I was thinking why not add new pvp ranks, that really don’t get u additional regards and perks, but only show how much u play/good u are.

For some strange reason I get the feeling that Anet doesn’t like us to have long term PvP goals. Unlike PvE’ers who have achievement points going up to infinity, we’re stuck with no carrots to work towards after so many of us were bumped up to r80.

I don’t know…maybe they think PvE’ers are intimidated by high ranked PvP’ers or something, but not the other way around.

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Posted by: MrFlump.8725

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They want the long term goal to be the leader boards, devs have said that ranks don’t show skill level as well as they like because of the fact that it takes into account games played and not win/loss ratio. Just some people refuse to acknowledge that fact, it’s clear they don’t like ranks because they wanted to get rid of them.

And yes the leader boards are kitten right now, we all know.

@felivear
You wanna know how they could make money from pvp? Esports(if some how it happens). This is why they want to shift the focus to being top of the leader boards so they can start doing more and more competitions with bigger prizes which will (hopefully) bring more poeple to the game.(this is what they want, not saying its gunna happen)

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

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Hmm… what would be after Dragon rank?

Oh I know! Zerg rank!

Or perhaps Trehearne / Scarlet rank!

One – Piken Square

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Posted by: bhagwad.4281

bhagwad.4281

They want the long term goal to be the leader boards, devs have said that ranks don’t show skill level as well as they like because of the fact that it takes into account games played and not win/loss ratio. Just some people refuse to acknowledge that fact, it’s clear they don’t like ranks because they wanted to get rid of them.

And yes the leader boards are kitten right now, we all know.

@felivear
You wanna know how they could make money from pvp? Esports(if some how it happens). This is why they want to shift the focus to being top of the leader boards so they can start doing more and more competitions with bigger prizes which will (hopefully) bring more poeple to the game.(this is what they want, not saying its gunna happen)

“Skill” is not the only type of long term goal you can have. Just like Achievement Points in PvE do not reflect “skill” in PvE, there’s no reason to have ranks reflect it either. Let them remain as an indicator of time spent and everyone is happy.

Why do PvE’ers get APs and we get nothing?

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Posted by: sternenstaub.8763

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How about dividing earned AP in PvE, PvP and WvW for a starter.
Same divide that has been done with monthly/daily and the rest, while still having the total number on the character screen but being able to see the game mode source of each.

Then add an only PvP and only WvW AP leaderboard.
Not sure how many AP there are in total and if it would be too easy in sPvP.
Would this help?

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Posted by: bhagwad.4281

bhagwad.4281

How about dividing earned AP in PvE, PvP and WvW for a starter.
Same divide that has been done with monthly/daily and the rest, while still having the total number on the character screen but being able to see the game mode source of each.

Then add an only PvP and only WvW AP leaderboard.
Not sure how many AP there are in total and if it would be too easy in sPvP.
Would this help?

Yes, that would surely help. As long as there’s some number that can keep increasing and that we can work towards pushing up constantly and has visibility to others as well.

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Posted by: MrFlump.8725

MrFlump.8725

“Skill” is not the only type of long term goal you can have. Just like Achievement Points in PvE do not reflect “skill” in PvE, there’s no reason to have ranks reflect it either. Let them remain as an indicator of time spent and everyone is happy.

Why do PvE’ers get APs and we get nothing?

PvP is a competitive game mode, why wouldn’t the long term goal be to improve. Think of when people play sports, everyone who plays them goes for the short term goal of having fun, and if you want to, the long term goal of being a great player and the rewards that come with that.

If you want another long term, make your own one. Here is one for you, Do all the reward tracks and get all the skins u can get from each one, there’s a long term goal for you that isn’t just improving in skill.

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Posted by: bhagwad.4281

bhagwad.4281

“Skill” is not the only type of long term goal you can have. Just like Achievement Points in PvE do not reflect “skill” in PvE, there’s no reason to have ranks reflect it either. Let them remain as an indicator of time spent and everyone is happy.

Why do PvE’ers get APs and we get nothing?

PvP is a competitive game mode, why wouldn’t the long term goal be to improve. Think of when people play sports, everyone who plays them goes for the short term goal of having fun, and if you want to, the long term goal of being a great player and the rewards that come with that.

If you want another long term, make your own one. Here is one for you, Do all the reward tracks and get all the skins u can get from each one, there’s a long term goal for you that isn’t just improving in skill.

As long as I can’t display those long term goals as a prestige value, they mean nothing. Who wants to have achievements that no one can see? So if I get all the skins, will I have a title to show off? Or a finisher? Or some unique skin to signify the achievement?

No one is saying take away skill based goals. We can have both! It’s not a zero sum game you know. One does not detract from the other.