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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

This is not about Rangers. I am sure people can find other examples with other professions as well. But I will use Rangers as an example to accentuate the larger issue.

So, I want to roll a Power Ranger and try it out for a bit.

Sadly… I cannot.

Apparently “Read The Wind” and “Survival of the Fittest” are some new sexy hotness traits needed to make the build work effectively.

This was one of the fears highlighted to the developers before the patch.

Our fears are coming into fruition.

Why is this happening?

Why can’t a new player log in as a level 1 and play the most effective Power Ranger build?

I am a little upset, and very disappointed with ArenaNet.

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Posted by: Valneer.3854

Valneer.3854

I certainly wasn’t handed these traits, I had to earn them and so will new players.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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I certainly wasn’t handed these traits, I had to earn them and so will new players.

The issue is rerolling. It basically forces you to have a level 80 ranger on hand if you want to experiment with builds.

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Posted by: kai.4629

kai.4629

hopefully anet will do something about it. as you mentioned this was one of the issues highlighted by pvp players before the patch.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

I certainly wasn’t handed these traits, I had to earn them and so will new players.

So you want to have an advantage over new players or people looking to reroll?

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

hopefully anet will do something about it. as you mentioned this was one of the issues highlighted by pvp players before the patch.

I know, it was such a glaring and obvious concern too. And we said it again and again… alas to no avail.

But seriously though… this was something the community was screaming at the top of their lungs from the announcement.

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Posted by: Shaogin.2679

Shaogin.2679

Yeah, kinda takes a bit of balance out if some players have access to skills that others don’t. Was pretty sure sPvP was made to prevent that, due to lack of racial skills and gear stats.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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This was the case in GW1 too, you started with barely anything and then over time you could work for more, it gave you something to do. As it is right now you are only missing, what, 1/13th of the traits, and a tiny number of other stuff. Big deal you can’t play one spec, it takes you a day or two to unlock a trait if you’re just PvPing.

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Posted by: Valentin.2073

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im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

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Posted by: Azure Prower.8701

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I certainly wasn’t handed these traits, I had to earn them and so will new players.

The issue is rerolling. It basically forces you to have a level 80 ranger on hand if you want to experiment with builds.

Do you have to be level 80 to buy them from the vendor?

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

I certainly wasn’t handed these traits, I had to earn them and so will new players.

The issue is rerolling. It basically forces you to have a level 80 ranger on hand if you want to experiment with builds.

Do you have to be level 80 to buy them from the vendor?

No you don’t but you have to invest time and gold before you can qualify to unlock them just to try it out.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Have you tried using the new trait?

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Posted by: velmeister.4187

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Mixing PvE with PvP is never a good idea. I like both for very different reasons. I don’t have to like them for the same reason and for the same rewards. It’s lame.

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Posted by: echo.2053

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To be honest I’m more annoyed at having to reunlock new traits again ( either by doing a pve event or paying another) if you choose to remake a character.

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Posted by: Pyriall.5027

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im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Someone who understands power ranger. Kudos. You can’t use read the wind or thieves will global you. I tried substituting Signet of the beastmaster for Read the Wind and protect me (which is roughly the same as SoS). The problem was you lost your mobility. So then I subbed for travelers runes, then you lost your burst from SoH.

Signet of the beastmaster should not be competing with Read the Wind. Move it down a tier or make SoB baseline like every other signet in the game.

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Posted by: Azure Prower.8701

Azure Prower.8701

im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Someone who understands power ranger. Kudos. You can’t use read the wind or thieves will global you. I tried substituting Signet of the beastmaster for Read the Wind and protect me (which is roughly the same as SoS). The problem was you lost your mobility. So then I subbed for travelers runes, then you lost your burst from SoH.

Signet of the beastmaster should not be competing with Read the Wind. Move it down a tier or make SoB baseline like every other signet in the game.

I like to have more than one of my grandmasters too as a thief. But we all can’t be all to end all. Need to decided whether you want survivability or damage. Not both.

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Posted by: Pyriall.5027

Pyriall.5027

im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Someone who understands power ranger. Kudos. You can’t use read the wind or thieves will global you. I tried substituting Signet of the beastmaster for Read the Wind and protect me (which is roughly the same as SoS). The problem was you lost your mobility. So then I subbed for travelers runes, then you lost your burst from SoH.

Signet of the beastmaster should not be competing with Read the Wind. Move it down a tier or make SoB baseline like every other signet in the game.

I like to have more than one of my grandmasters too as a thief. But we all can’t be all to end all. Need to decided whether you want survivability or damage. Not both.

Signet of the beastmaster is not worthy of a GM trait. Compare it to all other signets across the game. How would you feel if you had to choose between Executioner and making your signets actually have an active effect? It’s silly to have to devote a GM trait just to make signets function the SAME way other signets do for all other professions.

Your survivability is inherent to your profession, you have both….not sure where you are coming from.

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Posted by: Valentin.2073

Valentin.2073

im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Someone who understands power ranger. Kudos. You can’t use read the wind or thieves will global you. I tried substituting Signet of the beastmaster for Read the Wind and protect me (which is roughly the same as SoS). The problem was you lost your mobility. So then I subbed for travelers runes, then you lost your burst from SoH.

Signet of the beastmaster should not be competing with Read the Wind. Move it down a tier or make SoB baseline like every other signet in the game.

i think Read the Wind would work in wvw and pve but definitely not in pvp if you wanna play a glass cannon ranger. SoB is our only defense against burst damage from thieves, mesmers, and eles.

btw, i use Signet Mastery, Eagle Eye, and SoB. i just couldnt imagine not having those traits as a zerk ranger. the build itself is very risky and we need all the range and defense we can get to achieve our role as a roamer and spiker.

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Posted by: Valentin.2073

Valentin.2073

im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Someone who understands power ranger. Kudos. You can’t use read the wind or thieves will global you. I tried substituting Signet of the beastmaster for Read the Wind and protect me (which is roughly the same as SoS). The problem was you lost your mobility. So then I subbed for travelers runes, then you lost your burst from SoH.

Signet of the beastmaster should not be competing with Read the Wind. Move it down a tier or make SoB baseline like every other signet in the game.

I like to have more than one of my grandmasters too as a thief. But we all can’t be all to end all. Need to decided whether you want survivability or damage. Not both.

Signet of the beastmaster is not worthy of a GM trait. Compare it to all other signets across the game. How would you feel if you had to choose between Executioner and making your signets actually have an active effect? It’s silly to have to devote a GM trait just to make signets function the SAME way other signets do for all other professions.

Your survivability is inherent to your profession, you have both….not sure where you are coming from.

this is true. the active effect of signets should always apply to the pet and the ranger. this is the reason some rangers resort to playing cheese in tourneys.

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