Guild Wars 2

Is PvP dead since the last patch? Everytime I log on there is about 10 people on my friends lists compared to at least 25-30 before the patch.

Is it because no solo queue? Is it because matchmkaing killed any reason to make a team to try and get fun matches?

Am I just wrong? What is going on.

has your schedule changed?

Solstice.1097:

has your schedule changed?

No

Nope, you’re completely correct. My friends list is looking the same way. I’m also constantly adding friends, yet it seems to dwindle with every passing day. Even worse, it’s only making the issues worse.

People quit because matchmaking is broken and setting them up against premades, so as a result there are less people queueing. This means more premades vs solo.

It’s okay, the game won’t be too long gone in 6 months when a fix comes in…

… right?

The farming board with the point system made me lose interest…

Even if the previous leaderboard was too volatile among other things, actually winning against good players made rating go up and checking the positive progress on the leaderboard after won games felt like a reward. (the reward tracks etc don’t interest me at all).

I guess it also doesn’t help that my chosen class of mesmer isn’t in the best spot at all.

Don’t you guys think its because it was Christmas? I don’t know for everybody but a couple of ppl were out of the country in vacation, a big bunch were just almost never online because they had their kid all day, a couple of other were just doing just with friends and family.

Its prime time now and I have like 10 people on my friends list who are into pvp. Before the patch I would have had 30 people potentially.

I just think the players log in for the tournaments only. Nobody plays because there is no way to get any fun competition due to the matchmaking. There is no solo queue which EVERYONE used to do during the day. Then at night people would form pugs and team queue.

Now solo queueing during the day is miserable because you get paired with and against no names who you 1v2 and still lose because you have people dying to NPCs (and I was rank 1 at end of eu solo queue with very high win % so why am I with/against these people?).

Added to that the ranked arena leads to unfun premade matches. If you form a premade you will almost certainly just farm randoms/idiots with tiny queue times. Because nobody queues, because the matchmaking is broken. So no teams can get some fun competition/gameplay from forming a premade so they don’t bother.

Basically the whole thing is beyond kittened. Like seriously, I would love for someone to tell me I am wrong with some logic/evidence because currently even logging in feels pointless right now.

I just wanted to add that previously people did solo queue to prove themselves. They proved themselves and met people who they then formed teams with. There is NO WAY to do this anymore.

Literally a whole new category of “top” players came out of solo queue. And team queue is like farming PvE dungeons now.

Seriously, please reverse this patch. it has killed the game completely I would guess you have metrics to show this

I think it’s a combination of many factors:

1- solo queue experience ruined
2- leaderboard only time consuming
3- poor final rewards for test season
4- stagnant meta

MarkPhilips.5169:

I think it’s a combination of many factors:

1- solo queue experience ruined
2- leaderboard only time consuming
3- poor final rewards for test season
4- stagnant meta

That sounds a fair assessment, although I would add:
5. Team queue experience ruined

I still solo queue mostly in new system. I’ve had stretches where I’ll see the same four or five people on my team or opposing team. The player pool must be small for that to be happening as I’m probably an average player and not hard to find equivalent opponents.

Matches are hit and miss at my level, sometimes I’ll get a really long or really short wait for a and it always ends up 5 pugs matched against a high level premade that will roll us. Matches are faster but not as enjoyable with more chances to end up in a gunfight with only a dagger if you solo queue. That along with having to sit in heart of mist instead of doing something while I wait like gathering or map completion has me playing less.

Besides the play experience, the daily class win at reset is driving me nuts. I play just those classes on two matches and sign off, I can’t resist the pvp chests but it is not fun half the time for me if it is engy(shows up every day) ele or thief. I don’t think anyone likes seeing two classes heavily saturating the player pool around reset. Even worse, I’m ending up on teams with people that have never played their class before(last night a thief that got 5 points in an entire match).

The new system for matchmaking along with the daily changes has really hurt pvp imo.

I think youre all looking too much into this, nothing is dead or dying

I stopped playing cuz if i go solo i never ever get one single fun match, not because i would be vs premades, but just unfun, not on same lvl i used to play (top 100 solo or 300 team). I would prefear going old team queue solo (which i mostly did) than this crap. No fun forming a team either. It killed the game for me too.

So yea end the beta and give old system back, at least at primetime and sometimes/manytimes also other time, it gave you fun and chalenging games.

Matchmaking definitely needs some help. I generally don’t even bother with soloq anymore because it’s a nightmare. However, when I group que, it’s not that great either. A lot of the games are just stomps, and that’s not fun for either side.

pvp ….*sigh… do i need to say more?