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Posted by: Wanderer.5471

Wanderer.5471

Ok so basically there are sigils that provide unique benefits e.g. sigil of nulification – but they are essentially totally restricted to crit-builds, why? as well as 60% chance on crit, there should be blanket 10% chance versions – that way, other you have options that are better for certain builds, but every build can still utilise it.

For example sigil of superior leeching is consistent, but high-crit builds benefit more from sigil of blood. I think it would add to the number of unique viable builds in spvp.

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Posted by: Razor.6392

Razor.6392

you can always use the “X on weapon swap” sigils, those are really good too.

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Posted by: Wanderer.5471

Wanderer.5471

yeah, but their effects are limited, for example if you wanted to remove conditions or boons, you can’t do it on swap, the only option is on crit, so only certain builds can do it.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

What weapon are you using that you can’t proc a 60% chance per crit sigil every 10s? I run condi builds (condi + power or pure condi I don’t like the crit amulets in sPvP) and I can get nullification going off no problems!

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Posted by: slingblade.1437

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I have no problem with them only triggering on crit. My gripe is that Ranger pet crits don’t trigger sigils. Running a BM build, I have a very low crit chance with my weapons, but my pets crit tons. Sadly, the on-crit sigils are not an option for me since Rangers’ pet crits apparently are not worthy of triggering sigils, for some reason. Rangers gimped again.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I have no problem with them only triggering on crit. My gripe is that Ranger pet crits don’t trigger sigils. Running a BM build, I have a very low crit chance with my weapons, but my pets crit tons. Sadly, the on-crit sigils are not an option for me since Rangers’ pet crits apparently are not worthy of triggering sigils, for some reason. Rangers gimped again.

This may be the dumbest thing I’ve heard…. Spirit weapons, minions, Thief pets, turrets, summoned elementals, and clones all do not proc the effects either, so please, cry harder about how ranger is gimped. If you use a short bow, or longbow you should be able to fire enough arrows out in rapid succession that procing the higher crit ones (IE nullification and purification) however the other ones are a little more rough for lower crit builds.

PS: there is no rule out there that says “if thou art a BM ranger thou must use non crit!”

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Posted by: Wanderer.5471

Wanderer.5471

What weapon are you using that you can’t proc a 60% chance per crit sigil every 10s? I run condi builds (condi + power or pure condi I don’t like the crit amulets in sPvP) and I can get nullification going off no problems!

it’s not just about weapons, if you have 4% chance to crit then you’d get one boon removed every 50 attacks – this is huge, even with the fastest weapons this is useless, then you have a 10 second cooldown, before 50 more attacks have started counting. Plus it only works on attacks that land… i could go on.

But yeah, it is obviously even worse with some weapons than others a longbow on a ranger, with 4% crit you’d average this sigil proccing once every ~90 seconds if every shot hits, which works out as once every 5 minutes in practice.

so yeah, it’s safe to say these sigils are only viable for builds that invest in crit chance.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

What weapon are you using that you can’t proc a 60% chance per crit sigil every 10s? I run condi builds (condi + power or pure condi I don’t like the crit amulets in sPvP) and I can get nullification going off no problems!

it’s not just about weapons, if you have 4% chance to crit then you’d get one boon removed every 50 attacks – this is huge, even with the fastest weapons this is useless, then you have a 10 second cooldown, before 50 more attacks have started counting. Plus it only works on attacks that land… i could go on.

But yeah, it is obviously even worse with some weapons than others a longbow on a ranger, with 4% crit you’d average this sigil proccing once every ~90 seconds if every shot hits, which works out as once every 5 minutes in practice.

so yeah, it’s safe to say these sigils are only viable for builds that invest in crit chance.

-_-’ I used nullification on a longbow ranger and would strip boons every 10s, you have to take into account Rapid Fire and Barrage, and I know my friend runs purity with 4% crit on his engi (uses flamethrower which hits 10times with the 1) and he procs that thing like crazy.

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Posted by: Wanderer.5471

Wanderer.5471

What weapon are you using that you can’t proc a 60% chance per crit sigil every 10s? I run condi builds (condi + power or pure condi I don’t like the crit amulets in sPvP) and I can get nullification going off no problems!

it’s not just about weapons, if you have 4% chance to crit then you’d get one boon removed every 50 attacks – this is huge, even with the fastest weapons this is useless, then you have a 10 second cooldown, before 50 more attacks have started counting. Plus it only works on attacks that land… i could go on.

But yeah, it is obviously even worse with some weapons than others a longbow on a ranger, with 4% crit you’d average this sigil proccing once every ~90 seconds if every shot hits, which works out as once every 5 minutes in practice.

so yeah, it’s safe to say these sigils are only viable for builds that invest in crit chance.

-_-’ I used nullification on a longbow ranger and would strip boons every 10s, you have to take into account Rapid Fire and Barrage, and I know my friend runs purity with 4% crit on his engi (uses flamethrower which hits 10times with the 1) and he procs that thing like crazy.

it has a 10 second cooldown, so you are claiming you had 100% crit chance, and no-one ever evaded/obstructed your attacks? You are a troll.

And even if that was the case my whole argument is that it’s only viable for crit builds, so you saying you could do it with (what could only have been) 100% crit chance is hardly evidence to the contrary is it?

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Posted by: slingblade.1437

slingblade.1437

I have no problem with them only triggering on crit. My gripe is that Ranger pet crits don’t trigger sigils. Running a BM build, I have a very low crit chance with my weapons, but my pets crit tons. Sadly, the on-crit sigils are not an option for me since Rangers’ pet crits apparently are not worthy of triggering sigils, for some reason. Rangers gimped again.

This may be the dumbest thing I’ve heard…. Spirit weapons, minions, Thief pets, turrets, summoned elementals, and clones all do not proc the effects either, so please, cry harder about how ranger is gimped. If you use a short bow, or longbow you should be able to fire enough arrows out in rapid succession that procing the higher crit ones (IE nullification and purification) however the other ones are a little more rough for lower crit builds.

PS: there is no rule out there that says “if thou art a BM ranger thou must use non crit!”

Ranger pets are unique in that Anet has reduced the damage Rangers can do with their weapons/skills, relative to the other classes, and offloaded the responsibility to the pet. And of course, they have no choice but to use a pet. Neither of those conditions apply to your examples.

But hey, thanks for the insulting language anyway. ;-)

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

Darnis.4056

Please buff my class build, because critting for 4-6k switching pet critting for 4-6k is not enough for me I need to also get 1.2k crit aoes from sigil of fire.

LOL at Ranger dps being bad even without pet, Traps, Bonfire, Entangle, Throw Torch, Dagger Bleeds.

Tied for OP with D/D ele Please buff my class.

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