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Posted by: Kanto.1659

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…when can all classes haze Dazes instead of stuns? I just fought another mesmer doing the tried and tested ‘stealth and then daze from stealth to then burst to death’.

Of course my stun breaker did not work. Like all the other times. Because a daze is not a stun.

It does not let me move.

I cannot use skills.

I cannot dodge.

But it is not a stun, ergo stun breakers do not work.

I would sure like having a stun-which-is-not-a-stun too. It makes things so interesting when we cannot fight back and must just die within the first fifteen seconds of combat.

At least a stun warrior lets me extend that to almost a minute sometimes. I will still die, of course, one does not survive a class with high HP, high armor, high regen, blocks and invulnerabilities AND low CD stuns. But at least I can fight back for a while.

+1 for to removing all stupid nomenclatures. A stun breaker should work on dazes and immobilizes. It is our choice to use it on any of the three. But need a stun breaker, a daze breaker (IS there such a thing as a daze breaker or is it just a ticket to land whatever combo people feel like?) AND an immobilize breaker is three sorts of ridicule.

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Posted by: Amaterasu.6280

Amaterasu.6280

Your stunbreaker does break daze, it’s probably just not one that teleports you so you got stunned again from chaos storm with halting strike…

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

Kanto.1659

No.

/tencharacters.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

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Stunbreakers work fine on dazes. You can also dodge while dazed.

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Posted by: mini.6018

mini.6018

Stunbreakers work fine on dazes. You can also dodge while dazed.

You can move,you can dodge,you can stunbreak.You cannot use skills. Daze

Look again.

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

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Funny then. They use their pistol. Shoot me. I’m dazed. Cannot move, cannot dodge. I use my stun breaker. Still cannot move, still cannot dodge.. In the meanwhile they are teleporting on top on me and doing the usual combo.

What am I missing? Other than the basics which is my stun breaker not doing what a stun breaker is supposed to do.

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

Funny then. They use their pistol. Shoot me. I’m dazed. Cannot move, cannot dodge. I use my stun breaker. Still cannot move, still cannot dodge.. In the meanwhile they are teleporting on top on me and doing the usual combo.

What am I missing? Other than the basics which is my stun breaker not doing what a stun breaker is supposed to do.

u are missing the immobilization!

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

Kanto.1659

The pistol also immobilizes? I must have missed that. Is it recent? Because, I repeat (there is no iSwordsman close or even summoned).

Pistol shot. Dazed. Cannot move. Cannot dodge. Use stun breaker. Still cannot move. Still cannot dodge. In the meanwhile three clones blow up while they use their sword attack. Conveniently, invulnerable while doing it so I cant even fight back and try to stop them, but that’s another bag of kittens.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

The pistol also immobilizes? I must have missed that. Is it recent? Because, I repeat (there is no iSwordsman close or even summoned).

Pistol shot. Dazed. Cannot move. Cannot dodge. Use stun breaker. Still cannot move. Still cannot dodge. In the meanwhile three clones blow up while they use their sword attack. Conveniently, invulnerable while doing it so I cant even fight back and try to stop them, but that’s another bag of kittens.

First of all, magic bullet is a stun if they shoot it at you, not a daze.

Secondly, a stun is basically a daze + immobilize, and except a stunbreaker removes all the effects of the stun. A daze will be completely removed with a stunbreaker. If they daze/stun AND immobilize you, then you need to use a stunbreaker and a condition cleanse.

Stun: Can use no skills. Can not move. Removed with a stunbreaker.
Daze: Can use no skills. Can move, can dodge. Removed with a stunbreaker.

That’s simply how it works, no arguments allowed.

Edit: And for a guy who claims to have a mesmer leveling guide, you’re awfully ignorant about game/mesmer mechanics.

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Posted by: hackks.3687

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The pistol also immobilizes? I must have missed that. Is it recent? Because, I repeat (there is no iSwordsman close or even summoned).

Pistol shot. Dazed. Cannot move. Cannot dodge. Use stun breaker. Still cannot move. Still cannot dodge. In the meanwhile three clones blow up while they use their sword attack. Conveniently, invulnerable while doing it so I cant even fight back and try to stop them, but that’s another bag of kittens.

you can’t move or dodge because you’re immobilized

Look up illusionary leap (Sword 2)

that’s what they use after the Magic Bullet – which is a bouncing projectile that Stuns the first target hit, Dazes the second, and blinds (?) the third. Mesmers have multiple ways to Daze a target though.

it’s a mind numbingly easy, safe and effective burst rotation

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Posted by: Kanto.1659

Kanto.1659

That’s what I was missing then. I was raging for the wrong reason. Just goes to show.

No wonder I was under the impression that Dazes were omnipotent. Stunbreaker cured the stun but didn’t remove the immobilize.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

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probably immob + daze combo like every mesmer out there uses it

if i don’t shadowstep that i die instantly lol

but yes you can break it

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