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You will now get dishonor if you queue dodge or abandon a game.

Queue Dodge: 3 stacks, 6 minutes for the first offense
Abandon: 10 stacks, 17 minutes for first offense

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

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Will condi-cleanse remove it? If not, it’s OP! Nerf!

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

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Lol…condi cleanse I wish I was in HoTM right now to see all the people kittening about their debuff and laugh. JUSTICE SERVED.

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Posted by: Aereniel.7356

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Buckle up kids, it’s gunna be gud. Dishonored peeps matched together, the tears will be glorious.

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Posted by: Sars.8792

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I think its broken I got a error and dc for 2 secs mid game , came back got a bunch of points even…. cant queue again for 7 mins

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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I think its broken I got a error and dc for 2 secs mid game , came back got a bunch of points even…. cant queue again for 7 mins

That would suggest that it does indeed work exactly as intended.

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

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It’s terrible.
Just played game, DC’ed on loading map (my internet connection was fine since I wasn’t DC’ed from IRC). Rejoined before it started… played entire match and finished with dishonor penalty.

Sugestion: start counting ‘leaving’ after start of the match, not before it as it’s now… this way we could also switch chars to get less random team composition and have more competitive matches…

What is worse, in described situation, there is no reason for me to rejoin game, since it’s counted as loss for me even if I win it. Clearly bad design.

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

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I think its broken I got a error and dc for 2 secs mid game , came back got a bunch of points even…. cant queue again for 7 mins

That would suggest that it does indeed work exactly as intended.

Correct. A DC or intentional leave (System obviously can’t differentiate) you get dishonor. -3 on LB’s for ranked. Working as it is suppose to.

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Posted by: Sars.8792

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I think its broken I got a error and dc for 2 secs mid game , came back got a bunch of points even…. cant queue again for 7 mins

That would suggest that it does indeed work exactly as intended.

that’s weird , what are new rules for dishonored then? i guess if you switch chars mid match that would do it too?

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Posted by: Sars.8792

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I’m saying it was like random dc from an error i guess from patch day at start of match i instantly came back for the rest of match. it never worked like that before correct?

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

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I think its broken I got a error and dc for 2 secs mid game , came back got a bunch of points even…. cant queue again for 7 mins

That would suggest that it does indeed work exactly as intended.

that’s weird , what are new rules for dishonored then? i guess if you switch chars mid match that would do it too?

Yes because you are logging out. Log out = dishonor. Wouldn’t you be Qing with the character you want to play with……? No need to switch.

“Sars.8792:
I’m saying it was like random dc from an error i guess from patch day at start of match i instantly came back for the rest of match. it never worked like that before correct?”

There was no dishonor before. So there is no way it could work like before. Doesn’t matter if you come back and play the match; you left (for whatever the reason) and so you get dishonor.

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Posted by: WyldKat.4712

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Posted by: KhaidaG.5098

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For the past week or two I’ve been getting disconnects during matches almost daily, often multiple times a day. Internet works fine, clearly a problem with the servers. Now I’m basically unable to play because disconnects count as leaving. Sorry, but this system is nonsense.

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

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don’t play ranked, if your internet service provider is having issues , dc’ing and rejoining consistantly causes more annoyance , i’d rather have a different person join than spending that whole match 4vs5 with one person dc’ing every 3mins.

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Posted by: Shockwave.1230

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6 minutes is too harsh. If someone in your party forgets to click while you’re talking to each other you all have to wait.

Make it 30 seconds. Then 1 minute. Then 3 minutes. Then 6 minutes.

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

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don’t play ranked, if your internet service provider is having issues , dc’ing and rejoining consistantly causes more annoyance , i’d rather have a different person join than spending that whole match 4vs5 with one person dc’ing every 3mins.

Agree. It is obviously not a server issue or everyone would be having this problem. It is either your computer/ cables or your ISP.

6 minutes is too harsh. If someone in your party forgets to click while you’re talking to each other you all have to wait.

Make it 30 seconds. Then 1 minute. Then 3 minutes. Then 6 minutes.

So you are talking to them and you can’t remind everyone to click accept? “Hey Bob how was work toda….Q poped everyone accept”. 6 Minutes is perfect IMO for first offense. A good wake up call.

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Posted by: TheLargeUnit.2793

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The bug that causes random match prompts without queuing up (or previously causes match prompts when already in a game) is not fixed. My party member just got a queue pop when we were not in queue, I was afk at the time so he had to decline and he is now timed out due to dishonor. I thought the point of the no-dishonor period was to fix these things, but this is unacceptable. You are now timing out players who haven’t done anything wrong. I’m sure you can imagine how frustrating that is.

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Posted by: Sars.8792

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what does it mean by 3 stacks and 10 stacks? where are you reading the rules for this?

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

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The bug that causes random match prompts without queuing up (or previously causes match prompts when already in a game) is not fixed. My party member just got a queue pop when we were not in queue, I was afk at the time so he had to decline and he is now timed out due to dishonor. I thought the point of the no-dishonor period was to fix these things, but this is unacceptable. You are now timing out players who haven’t done anything wrong. I’m sure you can imagine how frustrating that is.

It is bugged with Q’s coming back after cancelled, but he should have accepted. If that happens to me, I am going into the match. My friend will just have to wait for me to return or play one by himself. Too many people saying, “I canceled, it came back, I declined, I have dishonor and now I am kittened”. Well you should have just accepted…… They will fix it but in the meantime, the only way to avoid your dishonor is to click accept.

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Posted by: Silence Re.8729

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WHY 50 minutes whe i just dced(1 time, just 1st time)??? yeah i got bad inet, but i recconect and continue game, why we can’t change characters(we still don’t have templates and it is easier to swap on other character)
i hate this update, on top – guys who plays solo, who plays solo more than other, with <50% winrate

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You only receive ~50 minutes of dishonor if you have 20 stacks of dishonor. That’s two abandons.

I’ll still take a look your account just in case.

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Posted by: Groutesk.6082

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bun can you explain how it stacks?

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Posted by: Silence Re.8729

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but but but i didn’t abandon,.. i just got dc and i reconnect,.. so… i got first dc today, how i got 50 min?

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Posted by: MarkPhilips.5169

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dc + reconnect = abandon.

We need a little grace time :\

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Posted by: Ampris.5321

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i joined a q and when it popped i was looking at my traits for what i thought was like 5 seconds but poof my q goes away and dishonor. o kitten. i can kind of accept that, it was my b, seems lame that u get dishonor for unranked q dodge since u cant tell anything about the match ur going into, but whatever. i get into another match and dc, come back, finish the match, suddenly im staring down the barrel of a huge dishonor timeout.

this is my question. does dishonor go away? you dont have to tell me how cuz obv ppl would then exploit it, but am i stuck with it forever? if so, spvp is basically no longer a thing cuz i cant control when the game(just the game) dcs me.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

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I have a feeling EU servers have been getting better compared to the realibility drop this year.

But with the short dcs awarding you with dishonor, is EU leading NA in total dishonor gathered and by how much?

Is it not possible to differentiate beetwen a afk getting kicked dc and a perosn raged and pulled cable out aka gw2 laggs and kicks you while teamspeak and even stream work flawless?
Im glad dishonoers will get penalty and actually wont be able to play, but the -3 will hurt someone who actualy trying sooo bad and i will probaly write rage bug report everytime it happens.

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Found an idempotence failure for dishonor. Disabling it until it’s resolved.

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