PU Signet of the Ether Mesmers
It has begun. Discuss.
Stop moaning about dueling builds that are uselsss in tpvp.
If it pains you that much to lose to a dueling spec, roll a warrior with signet heal build and never die to them anyways even if you can’t kill them.
Or you can reroll necro/engi and murder them with aoe condi spam.
It has begun. Discuss.
Stop moaning about dueling builds that are uselsss in tpvp.
If it pains you that much to lose to a dueling spec, roll a warrior with signet heal build and never die to them anyways even if you can’t kill them.
Or you can reroll necro/engi and murder them with aoe condi spam.
PU condi doesnt lose to Necro / engi not even Close lol
they also eat warr for breakfast
It has begun. Discuss.
Stop moaning about dueling builds that are uselsss in tpvp.
If it pains you that much to lose to a dueling spec, roll a warrior with signet heal build and never die to them anyways even if you can’t kill them.
Or you can reroll necro/engi and murder them with aoe condi spam.
PU condi doesnt lose to Necro / engi not even Close lol
they also eat warr for breakfast
PU mesmer has crap for condi removal. If you lose to a PU mesmer as minion condi necro or a grenade engineer, you are terrible.
It has begun. Discuss.
Stop moaning about dueling builds that are uselsss in tpvp.
If it pains you that much to lose to a dueling spec, roll a warrior with signet heal build and never die to them anyways even if you can’t kill them.
Or you can reroll necro/engi and murder them with aoe condi spam.
PU condi doesnt lose to Necro / engi not even Close lol
they also eat warr for breakfast
PU mesmer has crap for condi removal. If you lose to a PU mesmer as minion condi necro or a grenade engineer, you are terrible.
What?
I never have Problems with conditions on my PU condi mesmer even when i get spited
Arcane thief + torch 4 + torch 5 is enough (can also run null field + arcane thievery, works just fine… you really dont Need the veil)
Ofc if you stand still and eat every single condi applying skill you gonna have Problems…
hint: you can dodge a lot + stealth a lot to avoid cough
Oh and lol @ gettin killed by nades…
(edited by Sizzle Hint.1820)
It has begun. Discuss.
Stop moaning about dueling builds that are uselsss in tpvp.
If it pains you that much to lose to a dueling spec, roll a warrior with signet heal build and never die to them anyways even if you can’t kill them.
Or you can reroll necro/engi and murder them with aoe condi spam.
PU condi doesnt lose to Necro / engi not even Close lol
they also eat warr for breakfast
PU mesmer has crap for condi removal. If you lose to a PU mesmer as minion condi necro or a grenade engineer, you are terrible.
What?
I never have Problems with conditions on my PU condi mesmer even when i get spited
Arcane thief + torch 4 + torch 5 is enough
Ofc if you stand still and eat every single condi applying skill you gonna have Problems…
hint: you can dodge a lot + stealth a lot to avoid cough
Oh and lol @ gettin killed by nades…
Torch is terrible, anyone who gets killed by a torch offhand PU mesmer deserves to die. You have virtually no quick pressure whatsoever.
If somebody died to you is because they stood there eating clone attacks for a while.
This is like people saying they stood still on a point and the OP ranger pet mauled them to death.
It has begun. Discuss.
Stop moaning about dueling builds that are uselsss in tpvp.
If it pains you that much to lose to a dueling spec, roll a warrior with signet heal build and never die to them anyways even if you can’t kill them.
Or you can reroll necro/engi and murder them with aoe condi spam.
PU condi doesnt lose to Necro / engi not even Close lol
they also eat warr for breakfast
PU mesmer has crap for condi removal. If you lose to a PU mesmer as minion condi necro or a grenade engineer, you are terrible.
What?
I never have Problems with conditions on my PU condi mesmer even when i get spited
Arcane thief + torch 4 + torch 5 is enough
Ofc if you stand still and eat every single condi applying skill you gonna have Problems…
hint: you can dodge a lot + stealth a lot to avoid cough
Oh and lol @ gettin killed by nades…
Torch is terrible, anyone who gets killed by a torch offhand PU mesmer deserves to die. You have virtually no quick pressure whatsoever.
If somebody died to you is because they stood there eating clone attacks for a while.
So what you recommend instead? Pistol? Oh yes i run that…
i run S/P + S/T
Also im not saying you should run PU condi or PU in General @ tpvp (because ist useless), im just commenting on ur Warrior / Engi / necro eats PU mesmers comment
Why would you dump the staff, you get no condi cover at all if you just rely on bleeds from iduelist to pressure damage.
Build I run is staff+scepter/pistol. You get lots of condi trash cover for your burning/bleed, and you only miss out on an overrated stealth skill with a long cd that actually hampers your damage. Sit on an Arcane storm, trigger chaos armor and you’ll sit on a cascade of boons and aegis spam while your opponent stays in interrupt city.
Build is 10 dom, 30 dueling, 30 chaos. crippling dissipation, deceptive evasion, debilitating dissipation, pistol trait, staff cd+toughness, and PU.
Basically every time my clones get killed by splash or I replace them, I apply guaranteed confusion+cripple+either bleed or weakness, on top of the conditions I’m already applying.
Crippling Dissipation is particularly amazing against melee. You have so much condi cover that if your opponent stays, they’ll be overwhelmed.
The real weakness of this build is no chasing potential. If an opponent wants to kite your damage or retreat, they can.
(edited by Zenith.7301)
It has begun. Discuss.
Stop moaning about dueling builds that are uselsss in tpvp.
If it pains you that much to lose to a dueling spec, roll a warrior with signet heal build and never die to them anyways even if you can’t kill them.
Or you can reroll necro/engi and murder them with aoe condi spam.
PU condi doesnt lose to Necro / engi not even Close lol
they also eat warr for breakfast
PU mesmer has crap for condi removal. If you lose to a PU mesmer as minion condi necro or a grenade engineer, you are terrible.
Yeah.. grenades have never countered stealthy/aegis spamming/teleporty duel mesmers. Mesmer mechanics counter Engineer mechanics quite hard, due to the positioning requirements of the Engineer.
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Why would you dump the staff, you get no condi cover at all if you just rely on bleeds from iduelist to pressure damage.
Build I run is staff+scepter/pistol. You get lots of condi trash cover for your burning/bleed, and you only miss out on an overrated stealth skill with a long cd that actually hampers your damage. Sit on an Arcane storm, trigger chaos armor and you’ll sit on a cascade of boons and aegis spam while your opponent stays in interrupt city.
Build is 10 dom, 30 dueling, 30 chaos. crippling dissipation, deceptive evasion, debilitating dissipation, pistol trait, staff cd+toughness, and PU.
Basically every time my clones get killed by splash or I replace them, I apply guaranteed confusion+cripple+either bleed or weakness, on top of the conditions I’m already applying.
Crippling Dissipation is particularly amazing against melee. You have so much condi cover that if your opponent stays, they’ll be overwhelmed.
The real weakness of this build is no chasing potential. If an opponent wants to kite your damage or retreat, they can.
No offense, but you obviously don’t know how PU spec works/ran so you should stop while you are ahead. s/p + scep/t has been the standard for duels and is probably the main roaming spec for WvW (just ask RIOT they all run it for their mesmers). The entire idea behind PU (prismatic understanding) is having a torch off for the prestige/using decoy/using mass invis/using veil (optional) is for the stealth, and letting your clones condi apply while you run around on rabid or something similar taking 0 damage. The new heal only amplifies that because you want to keep clones up anyways (ie you get a 1k tick every 3 seconds to help offset what little damage you do take).
Here is a wiki so you can learn about what “PU” means:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Prismatic_Understanding
While I agree it isn’t maybe as optimal for team play or bp it could be something good for pushing far (ie cruuk style o’ play). Other than that it is what it is a duel/fun spec for PvP and a roaming spec for WvW.
Chaith knows better than anyone after dealing with Arbaris’ confusion spec… :P (Very similar to PU.)
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Considering I run PU at its most broken in WvW, I beg to differ. Please offer actual arguments, not appeals to popularity.
What sort of condition cover do you have on a s/p+s/t variant? All your condi comes from the duelist, which is basically bleeding. If you rely only on bleeding for your condi you won’t scratch anyone with any decent amount of condi clear.
Your variant is at best a wannabe phantasm build that uses PU for survival, but it doesn’t pack the condition ramp up or coverage of a staff variant, and it’s sorely lacking in multitarget damage let alone defense and ranged capability.
By relying solely on iduelist you’ve committed to a single target spec.
P.S. My build only loses on Prestige in exchange for greater offensive potential, aoe, and disengage options with the staff. I run Mass Invis, Decoy, Blink, and Null Field in WvW.
(edited by Zenith.7301)
Considering I run PU at its most broken in WvW, I beg to differ. Please offer actual arguments, not appeals to popularity.
What sort of condition cover do you have on a s/p+s/t variant? All your condi comes from the duelist, which is basically bleeding. If you rely only on bleeding for your condi you won’t scratch anyone with any decent amount of condi clear.
Your variant is at best a wannabe phantasm build that uses PU for survival, but it doesn’t pack the condition ramp up or coverage of a staff variant, and it’s sorely lacking in multitarget damage let alone defense and ranged capability.
By relying solely on iduelist you’ve committed to a single target spec.
P.S. My build only loses on Prestige in exchange for greater offensive potential, aoe, and disengage options with the staff. I run Mass Invis, Decoy, Blink, and Null Field in WvW.
Your build is just that, it is a WvW spec that was popular in late 2012 for the AOE cover and condi lay from the staff to deal with large groups. While I am glad the spec still works for you when you are running a dueling spec in PvP that is PU based or a free roaming/dueling spec in WvW I just listed you the current. FYI what is popular right now is what most mesmers existing in the meta run/adapted.
I honestly have no problem/nor care with you wanting to run whatever spec you want to run because in essence it is what a player is comfortable with and not what people adopt as the meta. Jumping to a conclusion that your spec is far superior than what majority does run though also outright calling people bad/wannabe when you are a relatively unknown/unheard of player as far as I know where your build foundation is based around running in a zerg in WvW is not a point I would want to purport myself behind on a sPvP forum.
Just saying.
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