Guild Wars 2

red team 5 active players vs blue team 4 active players 5th inactive picking his nose in base.

Point blank…. 5 total seasons of this trash.

This has been a sourly needed to be addressed problem in pvp, people who A: score feed by running into meat grinders and standing there to die B: afkers who idle in base or random spots on the map.

They have 1 thing in common, they are deliberately trying not to win, either because A: they want to tank mmr to get free wins later as was a problem in several seasons of B: they already got a good rank on main account so are alt accounting to ruin other people’s matches to thin their competition.

But there is 1 total fix that would at least do something to counter this and that is pvp majority voting to kick someone out of a match.

And don’t say that’s committing match suicide because it is not the case we have “out-manned” in WVW we could totally use it in pvp to counter the afkers.

and here is why 1: majority 3/4 must be required to vote 1 person out. 2: while the group is under 5 people the system applies a balanced out manned stat buff to try and give the team a chance to make up for the person whom they had to kick while the system finds a replacement. 3: the system pulls someone from the Q in to the match and removes the out manned buff.

It might not totally solve the afk problem but it at least combats it and avoids giving the trolls complete power to wreck other people’s matches.

I’ve had to put up with trolls in matches every season, and even the qualifier’s were no exception for this new season, a minimum of 2 matches out of 10 had 1 person do absolutely nothing and my team lost for it because we couldn’t kick them and they avoided being inactive to prevent the system from having a reason to boot them out.

Let us not forget unique to this very season there is no power to pre-make a team, its either solo or duo Q now this there is always a 1-3 chance a pug will be a troll simply looking to idle in the match or score feed the other team to victory.

Given that losing is auto 3 pips and top stating is bonus pips losing rewards the afkers for there time ruining other peoples game, at least in the past 4 seasons pips were the be all end all rank/reward system. To get rewards you had to win, throwing matches was just trolling at the cost of in game reward however now they can troll and get something out of it.

There is only 1 other way anet could stop idle and match manipulating offensive players and that’s assign staff to personally watch over each and every match and we all know they not only won’t do that but can’t do it, and a program is far to easy to exploit, the current system which boots people only does so after X inactivity time which is avoidable by twitching any controls every so often to be considered ‘active’.

Setting the system to do something about people sitting in base to long would do zero as well because such trolls would just do it out of the base then to avoid it. Then there is the report ‘idle player’ or ‘match manipulation’ Lets be honest ok, this is a joke, if and whenever the offending player is dealt with they’ve already done the damage, you won’t be refunded lost ranking or anything of the sort. Yes it is nice if and when the offender is banned to prevent the problem further but that won’t come fast enough from the time they are reported for it.

If there has to be further reason for a vote to kick then let it be this. Supply the reason then have it file a report to arenanet automatically when the vote removes the offender from the match so their actions can be looked into to validity if they should take action while simultaneously removing the immediate problem from the current match to give the team some real chance to win.

As someone who’s played every season of pvp league its frustrating and disheartening to see this particular problem has not been addressed and it is very discouraging to bother with ranked play during a league season when out know this nonsense will be there waiting with no power to deal with it.

Kick-voting will most certainly be abused! However, I do agree with you on the kick portion of your suggestion. Only, I propose an auto-kick. If anyone afks for a certain period of time OR more importantly does not contribute in any way, shape or form in a match(decap, point-capture,kill)—-the game kicks that person out.

That’s the result of playing pvp with pugs and marvelous pvp rating system. How to solve the problem:

1. Leave unranked as it is.
2. Rework ranked, right now it is kitten. Make rated 3v3 and 5v5 teams, no pugs, people from your guild, friends, etc. Your team.

There, problem solved. If someone goes afk you know who to blame. If you lose you can discuss the cause and how to improve. I still fail to see how the current system is supposed to work.

And afkers in unranked wouldn’t matter anyways.

JTGuevara.9018:

Kick-voting will most certainly be abused! However, I do agree with you on the kick portion of your suggestion. Only, I propose an auto-kick. If anyone afks for a certain period of time OR more importantly does not contribute in any way, shape or form in a match(decap, point-capture,kill)—-the game kicks that person out.

Any system built to auto react is avoidable, because it would be put on bare minimums. As such it would A: be to weak to do any real good or B: get put to high and thus confuse afkers or score feeders with people actually trying. This is a problem that needs to be addressed vie a competent sentient user or in this case ‘users’ addressing the problem, it might be ab-usable but its better then relying on a system that is easy to avoid as stated in my OP.

This discussion has been had 1 million times. People AFK when they know they are going to lose, because the match maker in this game leaves a lot to be desired. If you punish them they will just find a way to make it look like they are trying. People dont AFK when they are having fun.