Guild Wars 2

What will happen to partial teams? It looks like they will not be allowed to play together? If you have a team of 4 and soloQ is separate, you’ll never get a 5th.

This a huge problem. This feature should only come out when an LFG tool exists.

Also, conquest is not the best game mode for 5 people who can only communicate via chat. Please, PLEASE work on other game modes that would be good for solo. Incorporate some of the people working on the mini games into pvp.

I also hope they hide the roster when you solo q. Otherwise people will solo q up together and keep trying until they are playing with their friend or group.

Lordrosicky.5813:

I also hope they hide the roster when you solo q. Otherwise people will solo q up together and keep trying until they are playing with their friend or group.

Yeah, they have to make sure that you can’t “sync” the solo queue or it will be abused. I don’t agree with the OP though. Find a 5th if you want to team queue. If people were allowed to queue as a group of 2 in solo queue even, it would completely destroy it and give the advantage to players that aren’t actually queuing solo. At that point, you may as well call it duo queue.

Ashanor.5319:

Lordrosicky.5813:

I also hope they hide the roster when you solo q. Otherwise people will solo q up together and keep trying until they are playing with their friend or group.

Yeah, they have to make sure that you can’t “sync” the solo queue or it will be abused. I don’t agree with the OP though. Find a 5th if you want to team queue. If people were allowed to queue as a group of 2 in solo queue even, it would completely destroy it and give the advantage to players that aren’t actually queuing solo. At that point, you may as well call it duo queue.

How will you find this 5th person in game is the question. Sure you can come to the forums or Reddit and post a LFG. Or spam Anvil Rock chat. But my team and my friend base were all built on random Solo/Duo/Triple/Quad Q and their connections and they will be removing that with this update.

Obviously this is a huge quality improvement and needs to happen, but the OP does provide a valid concern.

I was also wondering how this would work. Would a group of 2 and 3 get paired up against a full team? Or would the system try to match them with another partial. How does a 4 man team work? does it pull from the solo que? Or can you simply not que up unless you are a solo or a full team?

Parisalchuk.9230:

Ashanor.5319:

Lordrosicky.5813:

I also hope they hide the roster when you solo q. Otherwise people will solo q up together and keep trying until they are playing with their friend or group.

Yeah, they have to make sure that you can’t “sync” the solo queue or it will be abused. I don’t agree with the OP though. Find a 5th if you want to team queue. If people were allowed to queue as a group of 2 in solo queue even, it would completely destroy it and give the advantage to players that aren’t actually queuing solo. At that point, you may as well call it duo queue.

How will you find this 5th person in game is the question. Sure you can come to the forums or Reddit and post a LFG. Or spam Anvil Rock chat. But my team and my friend base were all built on random Solo/Duo/Triple/Quad Q and their connections and they will be removing that with this update.

Obviously this is a huge quality improvement and needs to happen, but the OP does provide a valid concern.

Well, you can meet people in the mists or scout hotjoins for people to add to your friends list that want a tPvP team. You can also do things like you stated.

Ashanor.5319:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Ashanor.5319:

Lordrosicky.5813:

I also hope they hide the roster when you solo q. Otherwise people will solo q up together and keep trying until they are playing with their friend or group.

Yeah, they have to make sure that you can’t “sync” the solo queue or it will be abused. I don’t agree with the OP though. Find a 5th if you want to team queue. If people were allowed to queue as a group of 2 in solo queue even, it would completely destroy it and give the advantage to players that aren’t actually queuing solo. At that point, you may as well call it duo queue.

How will you find this 5th person in game is the question. Sure you can come to the forums or Reddit and post a LFG. Or spam Anvil Rock chat. But my team and my friend base were all built on random Solo/Duo/Triple/Quad Q and their connections and they will be removing that with this update.

Obviously this is a huge quality improvement and needs to happen, but the OP does provide a valid concern.

Well, you can meet people in the mists or scout hotjoins for people to add to your friends list that want a tPvP team. You can also do things like you stated.

Yup, not saying this is the only way, just responding to the guy who discounted the OPs concerns unjustly.

I’m going to sync the solo queue for sure.

Good point about the solo-Q syncing. There NEEDS to be a dishonorable penalty of some sort before this comes out. I see this not fixing any of the issues with 5v4’s, possibly making it worse, without that feature.

I am all for a solo-Q feature, but so many things need to happen before this can be done. LFG tool is the most obvious one. You can use GW2 lfg I suppose. Going to the mists is not a good option as that is limited only to your server, most servers do not have a huge number of people hanging around the mists looking for a team to join.

Make solo-Q more meaningful and rewarding. Right now the biggest reason people ask for solo-Q is because it’s hugely unfair to play against a pre-made as a bunch of pugs. This may relieve that frustration a bit but that will wear thin quickly as conquest is a terrible mode for a no-voice chat situation. 2 solutions: new game modes that are easier to play without communication, OR, in game voice comms. First option is better since not everyone plays with a mic or likes to talk.

Partials aren’t an issue. Either go solo or find 4 others.

Valkyriez.6578:

Partials aren’t an issue. Either go solo or find 4 others.

What makes you say it’s not an issue? Because it is.

Paprikaspice.8462:

Valkyriez.6578:

Partials aren’t an issue. Either go solo or find 4 others.

What makes you say it’s not an issue? Because it is.

No it’s not. It’s an issue maybe for a small minority. Find a 5th if you want to go as a full team or solo que. it’s how competitive games work. With solo que only leader boards teams of 4 can find great individual players and recruit them to your group of 4, in he mean time, YOLO que is where it will be at.

I think most competitive games let you play with your friends and pugs. Are you talking about ladder tournaments, such as the PAX event? In those events, obviously you shouldn’t have any pugs. I’m pretty sure most RTS’s let you do 3v3’s or 4v4’s, ranked, with 1 friend and 1 or 2 pugs.

I have never gauged how many people join as duo’s, triples and four-mans but what makes you think it’s a SMALL minority? In most 5-man content it’s huge. I have duo-triple or 4-person que’d frequently.

This is my biggest concern. I normally queue with one or two people. I think the patch will actually be a downgrade for me.

I understand I’m in the extreme minority, though.