Guild Wars 2

Before Leagues:
Jake the Noob would go ranked, get stomped and go back to unranked where the PvP population was larger and less competitive. Nobody complained about ranked—it was a smaller population of competitive folks, and you knew what you were getting into by clicking that button. Ranked filtered out the less competitive because they just couldn’t cut it.

After Leagues:
Ranked has more rewards and a shiny badge! Jake the Noob decides to go ranked, gets stomped, but feels entitled to a 50% winrate and to get the rewards. This feeling of entitlement, coupled with discouraging loss streaks lead to complaining.

Just an observation. Now, before I’m accused of being an elitist, I do want to say I think its fantastic that a larger portion of the PvP and game population are participating in the ranked PvP scene—it’s breathing life into the system. But, we should all remember what Ranked was like before leagues too—it was not noob friendly then, and it really isn’t now either. So we can’t all expect to be ranked heros, because frankly, not all of us are good enough.

The one issue with my post above is that if you get caught on a loss streak, you’re stuck in a negative feedback loop, and that does really suck.

My 2 coppers. Happy hunting, everyone.

its not the defeats. Defeas yuo learn from. Its the creating games were its a 100% no way in hell you have a chance to get a decent game. If it was 5 matches then yes , ok. But its like taking people 200 matches to get to that point.

I belive that you would have a point if people x = highly dkilled just startet in diamond and all new i bottom and average in between. Then the system would propperly have been better startet off. I doubt its even fun on high skill level smashing people 500-20 and speending time on 100 matches of boring no meaning.

Hansen.3264:

its not the defeats. Defeas yuo learn from. Its the creating games were its a 100% no way in hell you have a chance to get a decent game. If it was 5 matches then yes , ok. But its like taking people 200 matches to get to that point.

I belive that you would have a point if people x = highly dkilled just startet in diamond and all new i bottom and average in between. Then the system would propperly have been better startet off. I doubt its even fun on high skill level smashing people 500-20 and speending time on 100 matches of boring no meaning.

If you want a system which guarantees you a 50% winrate, go to unranked.

Ranked is for testing your mettle against people who are better than you and establishing a ladder position. If you’re at the lower end of the skill level, you’re going to lose a lot. That’s literally how every single competitive tournament sport works in the real world. Why should Tyria be different?

Salamander.2504:

Ranked is for testing your mettle against people who are better than you and establishing a ladder position. If you’re at the lower end of the skill level, you’re going to lose a lot. That’s literally how every single competitive tournament sport works in the real world. Why should Tyria be different?

Other ranked systems in online games pit you against players of your own level therefore you do have a better chance to win while offering progression.

morrolan.9608:

Salamander.2504:

Ranked is for testing your mettle against people who are better than you and establishing a ladder position. If you’re at the lower end of the skill level, you’re going to lose a lot. That’s literally how every single competitive tournament sport works in the real world. Why should Tyria be different?

Other ranked systems in online games pit you against players of your own level therefore you do have a better chance to win while offering progression.

We’re at the very start of the league system—ANet warned us it would be like this. Remember all the QQ posts yelling at ANet to reset MMR last season? That’s basically what they did, and all the QQ’ers come out again.

If someone didn’t do ranked before leagues, there was probably a good reason. It seems to me everyone is forgetting that. If you want guaranteed fair matches, go to unranked. Ranked is where you compete, and that will mean blowouts if you’re not up to snuff.

Last season they gave everyone fair matches and it was a disaster, with good players having a harder time progressing through the leagues than worse players. The season 2 system is far superior.

Salamander.2504:

morrolan.9608:

Salamander.2504:

Ranked is for testing your mettle against people who are better than you and establishing a ladder position. If you’re at the lower end of the skill level, you’re going to lose a lot. That’s literally how every single competitive tournament sport works in the real world. Why should Tyria be different?

Other ranked systems in online games pit you against players of your own level therefore you do have a better chance to win while offering progression.

We’re at the very start of the league system—ANet warned us it would be like this. Remember all the QQ posts yelling at ANet to reset MMR last season? That’s basically what they did, and all the QQ’ers come out again.

They didn’t reset it, the old mmr stills factors into matchmaking and them not resetting it is part of the reason why its so bad this season.

morrolan.9608:

Salamander.2504:

morrolan.9608:

Salamander.2504:

Ranked is for testing your mettle against people who are better than you and establishing a ladder position. If you’re at the lower end of the skill level, you’re going to lose a lot. That’s literally how every single competitive tournament sport works in the real world. Why should Tyria be different?

Other ranked systems in online games pit you against players of your own level therefore you do have a better chance to win while offering progression.

We’re at the very start of the league system—ANet warned us it would be like this. Remember all the QQ posts yelling at ANet to reset MMR last season? That’s basically what they did, and all the QQ’ers come out again.

They didn’t reset it, the old mmr stills factors into matchmaking and them not resetting it is part of the reason why its so bad this season.

What I meant by them “basically resetting MMR” was that your MMR doesn’t determine your opposing matches now, which accomplishes the same thing. If they did a total reset it would be just as chaotic and people would QQ just as much, with the only difference being that it would take a lot longer to be people to get to their correct league position, so the bad matches would last a lot longer.