Guild Wars 2

I have lost all respect for top players after seeing how many of them are abusing Solo Q Leaderboars. Azshene from Team Paradigm/Curse, Helseth ans some others. I even heared how they are dissusing on twich how to exploint and sync. I thought you guys coud better. Shame on you!

The advantage you get if you have a great win ratio is huge after you get a ranking on leaderboards. It means you will get teammates around the same ranking as you are and this will make it much easyer to be on top. And if you have powerful friends (read other top players), you can exploint the game together and win.

I even created a second accout to test out if its possible to get a long winning streak at start. No chance. It doesnt matter how well you play., its not possible to get a winning streak 10-0, 10-1, without cheating.

I thought soloq woud be a place where solo players can play with other players on equal terms, but its not. The big egoes from turnament games just cant exept that they lose, so they do what most top people on leaderboards do… they win by cheating.

Why dont you just leave us solo players and go and play tournaments?

Its like ok to cheat in PvP as long as its socialy accepted, right? “everyone” does that.
It reminds me of doping in cycling during the 90.`and 00.`
Someone may say… come down, its just the game, why do you care? or why dont you do the same? Hmm… its sad to seee how this game devaloped from GW1…

And time will not change this, it will just increase the differance between those that cheat and those that dont.

Do you have any proof to your claims?

that before last phrase..reminds me of those youtube hero hackers of COD4 promod and CS and all their fanboys who defend them.

Does the leaderboard give you any bonus/item ? Why does people care so much about it lol… Just enjoy tpvp/spvp

Personally I don’t care about the leaderboards but I do hate playing in landslide matches due to SoloQ syncing. What’s worse is I’ve even been in known sync matches that have failed and have teammates auto run in home base to get the other side to win.

It’s not cheating, exactly. But they do have a natural advantage right now:

1) The matcher gathers them into their own team most of the time (like a premade, really), and then they play against the next team the matcher can find…usual people several hundred MMR levels below them. So they win and boost their MMR a tiny bit higher each match.

2) Some announce their TeamSpeak channel and password so the team can start talking and coordinating lightning fast.

Oh you mean games like this, where top players on leaderboard are all on same team?

Oh yeah I been telling anet there matchmaking sucks. I been telling them there leaderboard is being abused. Anet seem to enjoy it being abused, anet seem to enjoy watching one team so strong that they humiliate the opposing team and force them into rage.

I don’t listen in on there mumbles, teamspeak, ventrill or whatever so I don’t know if these guys do it intentionally, I do know anet intentionally forces one team to be so strong that the other team is “suppose to lose” and make several games off of that motto. I do know that anet makes the leaderboards so easily to abuse. If I was to blame anyone it would be anet developers, I give them 100% of the blame, they make this game so easily abused.

Yes they make the leaderboards the norm for people to abuse it, its disgusting how people do abuse it but its not there fault, theres too much of an incentive to abuse it to resist not doing so, and its all coming from anet developers logic of how it should be runned.

Theres thousands of people who want to be the top 25 on the leaderboards but anet prefers to let people abuse it so thousands of people are disgusted by it because they cannot advance and they drop faster than they are advancing.

You have an active playerbase, reward the active players, don’t reward players who go on vacations after they win 1 game. The system right now is more so for inactive playerbase, people play several games everyday or most days, they don’t play 1 game and quit for a month.

Not everyone is going to come to the forums and voice there opinions, most people will just quit the game period without even letting you know because they are so disgusted.

It is the truth but you can’t do anything about it. Heck, even they can’t do anything about it. If the top 10 is soloq’ing at the same time, even without syncing, eventually they’ll be on the same team. Everyone knows it by now that the teams are made based on rating and then matched to the nearest team-rating and thus creating some unbalanced matchups.

Kensei.1495:

Does the leaderboard give you any bonus/item ? Why does people care so much about it lol… Just enjoy tpvp/spvp

totally, if you see some one robbing other people on the street, who cares, just enjoy life, its not like you are going to get bonus items for helping. btw it does give you a title

Totally agree, I’ve even tested it. SYNCING definitely work. This is no solo Q! I’ve played over 100 solo q matches so far. 20% of them was syncers.

The system should remember which person you’ve played with last match in order to make sure this person cannot be in your team again.

Everytime you play with someone that someone gets a point. When assembling teams for solo q games, the system picks teammates with the lowest score.

You shouldn’t be upset about getting queued against good players. Should be upset at how bad your teammates are and that the only way to learn is through tpvp not hotjoins. However, if you’re bad, your teammates are bad and you will never be able to learn how to get better.

Eurantien.4632:

You shouldn’t be upset about getting queued against good players.

I think he is more upset about good players cheating and being bad examples.

No, just my word, but I dont have to prove anything for my self. I watch daily the top european pvp players and I see and hear things. Helseth even had a video on twich called “lets try to climb the leaderboards” where he and 1-2 of he`s friends where on the same team and voicechat a few games.

They count down, syncs and join the same game. Not everygame of course, but plenty of times to get a better rating.

The sad things is I like to watch those guys play in PvP, they know much about competitive PvP from other games too and the feedback they give is very important to community and ArenaNet. This is not about Helseth, the sync exploit is used much mre than people think..

Earlier today I played with WIWRA (ranger, top 15), you know what he did? he attacked alone a point thet was protected by 2 players and he tryed to kill them and cap a point. I know this doesnt prove anything, but a good player woud never do that. The whole leaderboard is so rotten on top it makes me quit the game.

And its not just about playing good and winning 10-0 games,, beeing a Superman and protecting 3 points at the same time, you have the leavers too, the afk players, and some random games starting 4v5.

I attack 3 people on points all the time bymyself in Tpvp. Its really easy to get a decap and waste 3 peoples time.
But ya this syncings gotta go! 2 bad Anet doesnt care because they think the rosters are hidden and thakittens not happening.

Well, he got killed in 5 seconds. I understand it was a bad example, But I played with him in turnaments too, he is a poor player that plays a simple spirit build.

Syncing is for noobs who lack confidence in their own skills.

bartrentenaar.8674:

Syncing is for noobs who lack confidence in their own skills.

Insulting them won’t make them stop.

Well ofcourse it’s also really class dependant…

I’ve played 30 games, won 16.
Played 11 games on Engineer, won 8.
The rest 19 played on Warrior, won 8.

So I guess your W/L ratio could be pretty high with some luck and if you rolled that stupid broken spirit ranger for example…

But I don’t really care about the ladder. If I cared about it I wouldn’t be playing with useless Warrior. But it is kinda funny, that so many people do play Warrior on SoloQ atm, even though I still find the warrior useless most of the time…

Axis, Azshene never sync que’d we as a team are 100% against sync que and have never done it ourselves; the only thing we said on stream was that sync que does work, and that you just need to que at the same time (which is common knowledge).
If you have any proof, or you have seen us on stream doing otherwise, please feel free to link it all our vods are there.

Axis.1085:

I have lost all respect for top players after seeing how many of them are abusing Solo Q Leaderboars. Azshene from Team Paradigm/Curse, Helseth ans some others. I even heared how they are dissusing on twich how to exploint and sync. I thought you guys coud better. Shame on you!

The advantage you get if you have a great win ratio is huge after you get a ranking on leaderboards. It means you will get teammates around the same ranking as you are and this will make it much easyer to be on top. And if you have powerful friends (read other top players), you can exploint the game together and win.

I even created a second accout to test out if its possible to get a long winning streak at start. No chance. It doesnt matter how well you play., its not possible to get a winning streak 10-0, 10-1, without cheating.

I thought soloq woud be a place where solo players can play with other players on equal terms, but its not. The big egoes from turnament games just cant exept that they lose, so they do what most top people on leaderboards do… they win by cheating.

Why dont you just leave us solo players and go and play tournaments?

Its like ok to cheat in PvP as long as its socialy accepted, right? “everyone” does that.
It reminds me of doping in cycling during the 90.`and 00.`
Someone may say… come down, its just the game, why do you care? or why dont you do the same? Hmm… its sad to seee how this game devaloped from GW1…

And time will not change this, it will just increase the differance between those that cheat and those that dont.

Please don’t throw around names unless you actually know what you’re talking about. I’ve never claimed any such thing on stream, and all the games I played, were played as a solo queuer without voice communication. There was one single game where I by chance ended up in the same team as Symbolic but as you can tell from the vods on his stream, we weren’t even in the same TS.

Having a high winratio doesn’t necessarily equal sync queuing, and assuming things without proof is a good way to make yourself look ignorant.

Better get used to it – syncing has never been fixed in GW1.

Now that the leaderboards have settled, it’s safe to declare solo queue a failure. It’s extremely easy to get matched up with friends.

Axis.1085:

I even created a second accout to test out if its possible to get a long winning streak at start. No chance. It doesnt matter how well you play., its not possible to get a winning streak 10-0, 10-1, without cheating.

I have went 14-1 on NA, and 11-1 on EU without cheating. Pretty sure it’s possible.

Yeah, it’s possible. You have to get a little lucky with teammates, but good players will statistically move up. If you find yourself at a low rating after more than 10 games, chances are you deserve to be there.

Still, the fun factor isn’t really there because of sync queueing and blatant imbalances.

Lopez.7369:

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If you find yourself at a low rating after more than 10 games, chances are you deserve to be there.
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Not true at all currently. In fact, if you lose the first 2-3 games you will end up with a bad rating after the placement matches, and then I guess they’re enough posts on this forum explaining the “sinking boat” phenomenon.

Only thing that irks me about the top players is that they sit on their ranks while other players such as Eurantien.4632, Kryptonite.6459, and stunningstyles.7054 are playing with 50+ games with a good win % ratio trying to move up. I know they’ll be moved down eventually but ya… it still bothers me.

i know for a fact that Azshene did not sync as I was in his team about 3-4 times. I guess he just got lucky and managed to get in the same team as me so i can carry him! But no seriously he did not sync, I was in his team 3-4 times before and we had total randoms in our team.

I do not hold the players responsible for the current state of solo arena, the responsibility lies entirely with Arenanet.

Ixl Super Ixl.7258:

i know for a fact that Azshene did not sync as I was in his team about 3-4 times. I guess he just got lucky and managed to get in the same team as me so i can carry him! But no seriously he did not sync, I was in his team 3-4 times before and we had total randoms in our team.

I find it ironic that on your stream you sync and use teamspeak “because everyone does it” and then come here to defend the people that don’t allegedly do it.

I just streamed myself going 11-0 on NA, can post the vods if necessary before anybody accuses me.

The crap about syncing should stop. Just wait for an answer of Anet if they’re gonna fix it.
Because atm. if you’re mates are around the same rating as you, you will eventually get on their team if you keep soloq’ing. Whether you force it or not.

Solution is simple: Keep the system as it is, but add one more step in the end. At that point the 2 teams become a pool of 10 people and two new randomized teams are created out of that pool.

it just shows how **** the people are they have to group with friends in a solo que really sad, not good players and until its fixed we wont see any good players.

Ey guys,
1st thing it is very ez to get a win/lose ratio of 10/1.
I did without sync’ing, and yes the Matchmaking they have,if you are on top leaderboards you will get match with ppl of same average.

2st, I know alot of players who appears to be on your screan and most of em are real solo qu’er.
I happn to be joining game and win 4v5 with with em, and it was totally legit in solo q.
So please stop q.q’ing cause ppl get together even when they dont sync.

3rd. Please stop saying that top players sync you dont know what your talking about.Most of the time i wait 10mins and more to get in the match.
So please, understand that if the q cant find a team youll be facing less good ranks.

If you wonder anything i truly solo q and have atm 16w/4l and in some games i had to carry players trough chat n map, and some others i won 500-30, because when you get good player you dont need voice or anything.

Syncing queues is DEFINITELY happening.

^ Confirmed. -WellWhaleWell