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Posted by: jayvux.4128

jayvux.4128

Feel free to check out a fun spec I have been messing with Hope you enjoy it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qehdmw1xRjo&feature=youtu.be

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Posted by: Ixl Super Ixl.7258

Ixl Super Ixl.7258

2V1? lol… I have easily done 3v1….

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Posted by: jayvux.4128

jayvux.4128

That’s good for you pal, grats Just having fun, but I will try to get a 1v3 in in the near future. Hope I can make it happen, stay tuned!

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Posted by: laquito.5269

laquito.5269

Haha had a great time watching this – love the whine.

Retired GW2 Player

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Posted by: Veldan.4637

Veldan.4637

Nice video and thx for sharing, but:

This sort of specs has already made me Alt F4 and not want to play anymore a few times.

To arenanet:

How is this fun, in any way? Is this the sort of gameplay you want in your game? If so, I’ll stay out of it.

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Posted by: OGDeadHead.8326

OGDeadHead.8326

What Veldan said.

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Posted by: Lighter.5631

Lighter.5631

And we see two crippled warriors.

“i think it’s an underserved nerf. now we have to slot a stun breaker??”
“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
-Excalibur.9748

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Posted by: Fenrir.5493

Fenrir.5493

Well an OP thief vs 2 Warriors, why im not surprised at all.

“We also realize that we can make mistakes but we dont care because I HAVE THE POWAAA!!”

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Posted by: fakeblood.2576

fakeblood.2576

Bahahahah glad I could be your giney pig

- Deranged Duck

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Posted by: alcopaul.2156

alcopaul.2156

good gameplay, gay music.

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Posted by: dovrak.4376

dovrak.4376

Not sure why this is trolling, check jumper’s build, using double S/D energy sigils, just to perma dodge. Change short bow for S/D and you have an overpowered build for spvp, because you know flanking strike also evades.

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Posted by: jayvux.4128

jayvux.4128

It’s “trolling” because it really aggravates your opponents coming from a silly spec. Just checked out Jumper’s duels and wow am I out of the loop haha.
Was unaware you can make a perma evade thief with another weapon set; will definitely give it a go.

Thanks everyone for stopping by and glad it was an enjoyable watch for those that enjoyed it.

P.S Please remember to respect all players in the video; the duels were all for entertainment purposes only with no intentions of insulting anyone in any way, cheers!

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Posted by: KarlaGrey.5903

KarlaGrey.5903

Trollwarz.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

This build reminds me of SWAY from GW1 or in general to sticky insects.

Read It Backwards [BooN]

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Posted by: Geff.1930

Geff.1930

Warriors do not count. Play 2v1 against anything other than Warrior, then we’ll see.

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Posted by: Myrmidian Eudoros.4671

Myrmidian Eudoros.4671

I’m mad just watching. Hope this doesn’t pop up in any matches I play, because I might just prefer sticking my tongue in the electrical socket to fighting against this kind of trash.

What are you doing Anet?

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Posted by: Jesiah.2457

Jesiah.2457

I’m mad just watching. Hope this doesn’t pop up in any matches I play, because I might just prefer sticking my tongue in the electrical socket to fighting against this kind of trash.

What are you doing Anet?

Nothing truly good, I can tell you that much! I really think evasion / invulnerability / anything of that nature is over abundant in this game. I main thief, and I think it’s by far the most gimmicky trash the game has to offer.

How fun and hard it is to avoid damage … being able to evade more times than a politician being asked serious questions.

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Posted by: Caffynated.5713

Caffynated.5713

It wouldn’t be that bad if they couldn’t break out of CC at will.

Right now, you can’t hit them during FS (evasion), and you need to dodge LS to keep your boons and avoid the bulk of his damage.

Ok, so how do you hit him? CC him between FS and LS, right? But he can just teleport out of that (with no cooldown) an unlimited number of times. It leaves a situation where the thief has to screw up in order to be killed, or you have to sit there and eat LS spam to the face and hope you don’t hand him so many free boons that he destroys you.

People exagerate how powerful it is, but it does need some tweaks to balance it out.

“We recognize that the changes to [ele] will essentially remove it from play. In the future,
we may consider whether or not there is an incarnation of [ele] that would be viable
but balanced. For now, we do not expect it to see serious use.” – ANet

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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

CntrlAltDefeat.1465

Thank-you for posting 2 great video’s about what numerous players have been complaining about. What happens when high mobility or survive builds meet melee based professions.

It is small wonder every match you see mostly the same professions played over and over again in the same fashion over and over again.

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Posted by: SPESHAL.9106

SPESHAL.9106

This is funny stuff and is quite embarrassing to the developers.

It’s particularly ironic if you are a necro and remember them saying that the teleport while in DS (which required life force on top of cooldown) made necros “unkillable” in Beta.

They have such a fresh memory of Beta, but don’t even know what’s going in the game right now. Both Mesmers and Thieves (and still some Eles) can be pretty much unkillable if they want to…sometimes even 3v1.

Giving boon stealing to a profession with the highest burst and mobility and stealth and evades wasn’t too much….but a Necro teleport would be…lol

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Posted by: Enmity.3428

Enmity.3428

“Thieves are not effective in PvP.” © TheMightyAltroll

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Posted by: Lionhart.3275

Lionhart.3275

Well if you actually look at the whole video, he DOES get killed.

Cry OP as much as you like, but at the end of the day, this kind of build is purely for fun, while you may be able to dodge around like a jumping bean, you just DO NOT dish out enough damage to hurt them enough.
There are ALWAYS ways to counter an evasion thief, you just have to find them and think on your feet rather than sticking to mind numbingly boring rotations that you discovered worked against 9/10 people.
Everyone is so stuck in the mindset that “Thief is OP!! Thief is OP!!”. Why not try playing a similar build to the ones you see in videos and see how much relies on reaction time and visibility. Get em stuck in a corner and they’re screwed, react faster than them and they’re screwed. Play your class better than they play theirs, you guessed it, they’re screwed.
Stop whining and find ways to counter them.

And btw, yes I do play thief. Not evasion based, and not stealth or backstab based.

Lion Nightstalker | Level 80 | Thief
Lion Shadowhealer | Main s/tPvP Char. | Thief
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Posted by: Kicast.1459

Kicast.1459

A big GG to Arenanet to put such mechanics…awesome…great job

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

“Thieves are not effective in PvP.” © TheMightyAltroll

He’s probably talking about TPvP. This thief will probably be too effective holding back point though.

I make guides to builds you may not have heard of;
http://www.youtube.com/user/ceimash
http://www.twitch.tv/ceimash

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Posted by: Atlanis.6597

Atlanis.6597

I had the displeasure of going against a team with 3 of these thieves and two phantasm mesmers yesterday in a 5v5 hotjoin. Oh god, the pain…

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

If those two warriors waited 15 more days, they could’ve won.

5x Warrior, 5x Ranger, 4x Elementalist, 4x Engineer,
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant

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Posted by: Psychogene.6780

Psychogene.6780

That was quite fun to watch lol thanks for posting. Talk about broken mechanics. I wonder if anet feels its fine for players to be able to spam evades over and over. I guess
since its been like this for ages they approve of this playstyle.

Evade’s and stealths need to be toned down definitely or completely reworked. Practically any fighting game where you have these types of mechanics that is open to abuse, it will never be balanced – ever.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

please do not necro. thief is worthless now, and warrior is god mode….

a lot has changed in the span of 4 months.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Aiblush.3865

Aiblush.3865

please do not necro. thief is worthless now, and warrior is god mode….

a lot has changed in the span of 4 months.

I don’t believe this has anything to do with a thief’s worthiness ._.
It is just for entertainment.
I recently trolled around with this build with Jayvux few days back, and it seemed untouched by Anet and still trolly as evaaa

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

please do not necro. thief is worthless now, and warrior is god mode….

a lot has changed in the span of 4 months.

I don’t believe this has anything to do with a thief’s worthiness ._.
It is just for entertainment.
I recently trolled around with this build with Jayvux few days back, and it seemed untouched by Anet and still trolly as evaaa

a lot has changed. you can try that build vs my warrior. i’ll type /sleep and I still doubt you can do any damage to me.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Aiblush.3865

Aiblush.3865

please do not necro. thief is worthless now, and warrior is god mode….

a lot has changed in the span of 4 months.

I don’t believe this has anything to do with a thief’s worthiness ._.
It is just for entertainment.
I recently trolled around with this build with Jayvux few days back, and it seemed untouched by Anet and still trolly as evaaa

a lot has changed. you can try that build vs my warrior. i’ll type /sleep and I still doubt you can do any damage to me.

A lot has changed in the last few days? 0_0 I am pretty updated with the state of thieves. First off, it isn’t a competitive build hehe; the build is originally made for merely evading and fun not for killing, please refer to the video’s description on YT; dmg output is its weakest link. Challenging someone’s weakness, such an admirable man

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

please do not necro. thief is worthless now, and warrior is god mode….

a lot has changed in the span of 4 months.

I don’t believe this has anything to do with a thief’s worthiness ._.
It is just for entertainment.
I recently trolled around with this build with Jayvux few days back, and it seemed untouched by Anet and still trolly as evaaa

a lot has changed. you can try that build vs my warrior. i’ll type /sleep and I still doubt you can do any damage to me.

A lot has changed in the last few days? 0_0 I am pretty updated with the state of thieves. First off, it isn’t a competitive build hehe; the build is originally made for merely evading and fun not for killing, please refer to the video’s description on YT; dmg output is its weakest link. Challenging someone’s weakness, such an admirable man

oh ok. well why is the thief losing HP if it’s “perma” evade?

All is vain.

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Posted by: garethh.3518

garethh.3518

2V1? lol… I have easily done 3v1….

Hardly a 1v2.
The guardian was useless and the mesmer walked in with 1/10th health.
I’ve legitimately 1v3’d bads on my trap ranger before, its rare to get a game with that sort of a lineup of bads… but yeah…

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Posted by: Vieteriukko.6075

Vieteriukko.6075

Nice video, thanks for posting.

The build / playstyle is not effective against most classes. It takes ages to wear a guardian or warrior down with bow and if they care to wield a bow(W) or scepter(G) it will be virtually impossible.

There is no major role for this build in teamfight and in hotjoin you can really manage with anything you find fun to run.

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Posted by: Aiblush.3865

Aiblush.3865

please do not necro. thief is worthless now, and warrior is god mode….

a lot has changed in the span of 4 months.

I don’t believe this has anything to do with a thief’s worthiness ._.
It is just for entertainment.
I recently trolled around with this build with Jayvux few days back, and it seemed untouched by Anet and still trolly as evaaa

a lot has changed. you can try that build vs my warrior. i’ll type /sleep and I still doubt you can do any damage to me.

A lot has changed in the last few days? 0_0 I am pretty updated with the state of thieves. First off, it isn’t a competitive build hehe; the build is originally made for merely evading and fun not for killing, please refer to the video’s description on YT; dmg output is its weakest link. Challenging someone’s weakness, such an admirable man

oh ok. well why is the thief losing HP if it’s “perma” evade?

I don’t understand why you are so passionate and persistent with attacking this build with all these rainbow of things lol. What has Jay or this build ever done to ya? x3

To satisfy your curiosity, here is the answer,
YT comments:
“Zoran Ostojic 3 months ago
if its perma evasion how come you take damage??”

Jayvux.4128’s reply:
“That is a good question Zoran, I was expecting to run into this question haha. But by “Perma evasion” I guess I am moreso implying that evasions are always at my disposal endurance/initiative/CD-wise as opposed to always being able to evade an attack; of course reflexes play a huge deal in the build as well x)"

So in a clearer perspective, if you were just playing with your skills without any enemies around, you would always be able to pull out countless times with close to virtually no delays. When you are on the battlefield and you couldn’t react fast enough to Knockdowns, etc, it may cost you an evasion or two.

Looking at the video, it does seem Jayvux was tempted to risk his evades to land some damage which seems to pay off in the end

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

I don’t get why you are so passionate about attacking this build with all these rainbow of things lol.

Well firstly, this video is 4 months old and it paints an unfair picture as to the effectiveness of this build.

Secondly, it’s not perma evasion. Even assuming disabling shot has no after cast which I doubt, it still has 1/4s activation time so at best that’s 75% evasion uptime.

3rdly, this build has no real damage at all if you want to maintain “perma” evasion. If you’re evading, you’re doing no damage. And if you’re using disabling shot you’re basically also doing no damage. If you’re using auto attack or cluster bomb then you’re no longer evading.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Aiblush.3865

Aiblush.3865

I don’t get why you are so passionate about attacking this build with all these rainbow of things lol.

Well firstly, this video is 4 months old and it paints an unfair picture as to the effectiveness of this build.

Secondly, it’s not perma evasion. Even assuming disabling shot has no after cast which I doubt, it still has 1/4s activation time so at best that’s 75% evasion uptime.

3rdly, this build has no real damage at all if you want to maintain “perma” evasion. If you’re evading, you’re doing no damage. And if you’re using disabling shot you’re basically also doing no damage. If you’re using auto attack or cluster bomb then you’re no longer evading.

O.O Your seriousness is rather amusing. You are looking into this build a bit too deeply. In a basic sense, it does justify the “perma-evasion” aspect of this build.

1.) As I mentioned before in my earlier post, we tried it out a few days back, and still proves to be just as effective. No traits/skills were trifled with by ANET, but if so, it was pretty much virtually unnoticeable.

2.) As I mentioned, you are looking into this too much ._. You can clearly see the consistency of evasions in the video, the end. Y SO COMPLICATED?

3.) What does dmg have anything to do with evading…? It is a troll build. The build description itself states it is not meant for damage and only for evading. Pay attention lol! And you make it seem that just because it is a build based on evasions, it can’t have a hint of anything else added to it ._. Put damage aside, they were eliminated in the end if you are ultimately implying that perma evasion isn’t perma if you can’t kill, “3rdly, this build has no real damage at all if you want to maintain “perma” evasion.”

TLDR; Stop trying so hard to be a party pooper sheesh haha

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Posted by: Aiblush.3865

Aiblush.3865

TLDR; Stop trying so hard to be a party pooper sheesh haha

Well some people are taking this video seriously. I mean why would you nerf evade just based on this video? The spec isn’t that OP at all imo.

You are the one to talk about others taking it too seriously? Lol >_>!
And hey, one li’l thing can make all the difference.
Big things come in small packages

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

TLDR; Stop trying so hard to be a party pooper sheesh haha

Well some people are taking this video seriously. I mean why would you nerf evade just based on this video? The spec isn’t that OP at all imo.

You are the one to talk about others taking it too seriously? Lol >_>!

I wasn’t gonna, but some people made some comment about broken mechanics and wants to nerf evades cuz of it. So I just wanna see if it’s really that broke after all.

All is vain.