Guild Wars 2

In the majority of hot join games you play you will see 3v5, a score of around sub-100 to 300+ with two spectators. Once people start losing, they switch to spectator and wait for an opportunity to join the winning team. This is a reality that can be observed by pressing “Play Now” if anyone doubts the validity of this toxic situation.

Here is a solution I wish to present :

(1) If a player switches to spectator from a Red or Blue team in a “Play Now” (Excluding private servers which may toggle this option) server, they may not re-join until the end of the match.

(2) If a player joins a game in progress that has equal numbers (ex : 3v3), they may choose their side. Once they have done so, they enter a single-slot cue. Once another player has entered the cue for the opposing side, both players are placed into the ongoing match.

Example for #2 : Billy joins a game with a 3v3 in progress. Billy chooses blue team and waits. Roger joins the game and wants to join Blue but can not because Billy is in the cue for Blue team. Roger instead joins Red team. The moment Roger joins Red team Billy is put on Blue team and Roger is placed on Red team. The match is now a 4v4.

The reason for these measures are to ensure that players that “Hot-join” are provided with fair games. Players wishing to do dailies will not be disrupted as these settings can be turned off for private servers.

Hot-join should not be for dailies if the game wishes to attract new players to this game-type. The current cultural reality of sPvP hot-join is a shuffling game where the players who understand the system have taken a ‘volunteer’ bonus for unbalancing the teams and ensuring their win, or are on the winning team, and those who are new are frustrated fighting uneven odds.

Stating that this is the reality is not productive unless an argument can be made that this team switching and unbalancing of teams to ensure volunteer bonuses holds some merit (Dailies can be done in private servers that are established for such). Thank you for your time, and I hope others have input on how to rectify this problem.

+1 for this, Hotjoin is even more of a joke than it should be.

My favorite is when someone on the losing team tells you you’re bad and then switches to your team…

Crimes.5317:

+1 for this, Hotjoin is even more of a joke than it should be.

My favorite is when someone on the losing team tells you you’re bad and then switches to your team…

it doesnt prove them wrong though sometimes i carry games almost by myself for example joined a game at 57-300 and won at 500-483 , doesnt necesarily mean im a pro mlg master either , sometimes i mess up and go with a terrible build and serve as nothing but free kills , for example full bunker cleric against a team of nothing but condi builds

-1 to this.

I will simply go to Unranked and afk there. It is less of a hassle than this abomination of a suggestion and much more rewarding.

There’s been several threads about this already, and as usual, the responses will be the same. Hotjoin was never meant to be balanced or fair – players could join any time they want and leave any time they want with no restrictions – it’s a live test environment for you to run your build through the grinder. Once you add balancing and restrictions, you’ve got yourself another unranked queue and there goes the entire point of hotjoin.

What anet should really do though, is remove the level 10 restriction on playing in unranked. And get on with leagues already so the esport types and premades can stop queuing in unranked.

I stopped reading when I understood it was about hotjoin. Guys, you should stop playing it now and go “unranked”

No to this suggestion.

Hot Join matches are not real matches. the players there are not there to actually have a good game, fight and win. If you ARE, then you are the one in the wrong place. Go to “Unranked.”

Hot join is for:
A) People looking for easy access to wins for dailies (this is why you see spectator team swapping).
B) People looking to learn a class or test a build outside of a real match (hot join = fake match, training match, etc)
C) People looking for easy access to fights who absolutely don’t care about winning or losing in a fake match.

If you care about the things you say you care about, you are playing in the wrong spot. Come play with the rest of us in Unranked.