Guild Wars 2

I am of the opinion that the way tourneys flow is more the way the devs intended the game to be played than how the games flow in lobby matches. I also enjoy it more as I am sure the majority of the community does as well. People in tourneys play to win. Lobby matches get played for personal score and rank points. Releasing a ranking system before the separation of random tourney/structured team was a mistake in my opinion, but that is a topic for another day and another thread. I want to call the community out here. I am calling for you all to dismiss caring about leaderboards for the time being so that the tournaments stay filled with people. I don’t want to go back to playing gank fest matches in the lobby. That isn’t how the game was meant to be played. I also have a hope of a ladder reset once there is a separation of solo/duo queue and full queue matches, so I am of the opinion that rankings shouldn’t matter at this point.

Think about it: Do any of us really think that it matters when our guild teams beat a random team 500-80? I think the STYLE of play(playing to win) trumps caring about a leaderboard system that is so obviously broken right now. To put it in Guild Wars 1 terms: Random Arena teams used to go fight Team Arena teams after 10 straight wins. Most of the time the RA teams would get beat the first match if it was a true random team and not a sync team. The way the system is now in Guild Wars 2, the Random Arena is coupled with the Team Arena so to speak. I know ANet has to pour over metrics and refine, but isn’t just that enough reason for us to keep playing and not care about ranking at this point?

I would prefer ArenaNet disable the ranking system at this point while they refine the matchmaking and until they add solo/duo queue to the mix. That needs to happen sooner rather than later lest it kill off the random crowd and possibly not recover. matches are moot at this point and I hope the community can come together for the love of the format and dismiss the notion that ranking matters right now, because it can’;t when it’s clearly not working as intended. Thanks for your time and your constructive opinions on the matter.

What do you guys think? Where on the order of importance does a solo/duo queue separation from full team queue fall? How high should it be on the list? Thanks again.

I don’t think leaderboard should be disabled. I think it’s implementation brings one of pvps issues back to light. The fact that it does this is a testament that the leaderboard is doing exactly what it is supposed to do.

The issue is that there is no gamemode that one can play to win solo, because like you said there’s more incentive to maximize glory in hotjoins rather then making sure ones team is victorious, let alone that hotjoin does not make sure the match was fair to begin with. On the other hand since there’s no destinction between solo and team tourny matches there’s no real way to be competitive there without a team.

Disabling leaderboards now would be disastrous however. Why ruin it for tourny teams when solo tourny is lacking. This will not fix anything, only break what little is working now. Better to keep what we have until they can sort this out and give us a competitive solo mode.