Guild Wars 2

I know it’s been said several times but please bring back soloq. Especially now when matchmaking doesn’t seem to work at all. No matter what you do, how good you play, you can’t possibly carry four people if they’re doing complete kitten. And I’m talking about people capping points in two, going to treb in three (why?!), not understanding you actually have to stand on a point to cap it. How is it possible we even get matched with these people?

Which brings another question, how the kitten hell does the matchmaking works? I don’t get it. I can easily 2v1 people on enemy team and my team is still losing. How? This is maybe bringing some new people, but making the old ones really not want to play. If you don’t have a team, you’re screwed.

Not even mentioning that the amound of 4v5’s has increased by a lot. I’ve had like four of them in 15 games.

I know you say that community wanted something else, but seeing as community still keeps asking for soloq, you might wanna reconsider. Or please fix your matchmaking.

i support this
qing into premades all the time is really annoying
add to that constant 4v5
ragequiters
EU lag…

yeah qing alone atm is really not fun and can’t always have full team with everyone on ts :/

Laraley.7695:

I know it’s been said several times but please bring back soloq. Especially now when matchmaking doesn’t seem to work at all. No matter what you do, how good you play, you can’t possibly carry four people if they’re doing complete kitten. And I’m talking about people capping points in two, going to treb in three (why?!), not understanding you actually have to stand on a point to cap it. How is it possible we even get matched with these people?

Which brings another question, how the kitten hell does the matchmaking works? I don’t get it. I can easily 2v1 people on enemy team and my team is still losing. How? This is maybe bringing some new people, but making the old ones really not want to play. If you don’t have a team, you’re screwed.

Not even mentioning that the amound of 4v5’s has increased by a lot. I’ve had like four of them in 15 games.

I know you say that community wanted something else, but seeing as community still keeps asking for soloq, you might wanna reconsider. Or please fix your matchmaking.

I completely agree.

Every time this gets brought up there will be some people coming into the thread (who probably only fight on pre-mades) trying to steer the conversation into a L2P attack. It always happens. So let’s see how long it takes.

Geikamir.6329:

Laraley.7695:

I know it’s been said several times but please bring back soloq. Especially now when matchmaking doesn’t seem to work at all. No matter what you do, how good you play, you can’t possibly carry four people if they’re doing complete kitten. And I’m talking about people capping points in two, going to treb in three (why?!), not understanding you actually have to stand on a point to cap it. How is it possible we even get matched with these people?

Which brings another question, how the kitten hell does the matchmaking works? I don’t get it. I can easily 2v1 people on enemy team and my team is still losing. How? This is maybe bringing some new people, but making the old ones really not want to play. If you don’t have a team, you’re screwed.

Not even mentioning that the amound of 4v5’s has increased by a lot. I’ve had like four of them in 15 games.

I know you say that community wanted something else, but seeing as community still keeps asking for soloq, you might wanna reconsider. Or please fix your matchmaking.

I completely agree.

Every time this gets brought up there will be some people coming into the thread (who probably only fight on pre-mades) trying to steer the conversation into a L2P attack. It always happens. So let’s see how long it takes.

Yeah, I noticed. It’s hardly a l2p issue. Matchmaking is horrible atm, you can clearly tell people don’t know the map at all and next match you get matched with people from top teams. Doesn’t work.

I disagree, i was in NA and at the end there for solo ques i was having to wait 8-15 min and was only playing the elite players in the game. I was actually yolo queing in team ques to get into matches. Not to mention that people who right about fighting premades all the time have been called out and have had salt thrown back at them but refuse to listen and just say stuff like “mm atm isnt working” because i say so.

Before i started using mesmer i was over 55% in solo queing in ranked, i run into certain premades all the time and dont find it to be a big deal because the matches are close and seem to be even.

Lastly you saying your fighting 2 vs 1 means nothing. it could of been 2 vs 2 at mid one of your teammates died and 1 left to finish you at your point. Better yet the zerg mentality which your team loses a 3 vs 3 at a point and 2 run to you. Your saying you fighting 2 vs 1 but we have no idea the circumstance of the fights.

Im sorry not to be a downer but solo que imo was always a bad thing. People ran in ther ewith builds not good for team play and said oh i won my fight or i carried when you ran all skills for just yourself. Max invisibility thiefs, signet warriors, turret engys who sit, max invisibility mesmers. It sounds like your on Eu so it might be different for you but from where i sit i disagree.

Maybe Anet changed something in the match making algorithm over the weekend before the patch hit. At least on EU the matches in unranked have fluctuated in quality over the past two days, and the frequency of 4v5s has gone up quite a bit. There was even one 3v5 yesterday with people complaining in map chat about horrible lag. I’m not lagging myself, but other people sure as heck seem to be. This is purely anecdotal and it might just be a coincidence, but it feels like something has changed.

The frequency of 4v5s has gone up for a couple reasons. Firstly, I’m hearing people complain about lag so I’m sure there are DCs going on. Secondly, the MMR matching has been terrible lately and a lot of people are just leaving games when they see their team of combat healers being murdered by a bunch of legendary champions.

About solo que: Just no
I don’t really feel I need to elaborate on this subject.

go to bed poopy, we still had some good games today

@k daddy

So what you’re saying is that you typically play in premades and see nothing wrong with the way the matchmaking currently works. Hmmm, I can’t imagine why.

kdaddy.5431:

I disagree, i was in NA and at the end there for solo ques i was having to wait 8-15 min and was only playing the elite players in the game. I was actually yolo queing in team ques to get into matches. Not to mention that people who right about fighting premades all the time have been called out and have had salt thrown back at them but refuse to listen and just say stuff like “mm atm isnt working” because i say so.

Before i started using mesmer i was over 55% in solo queing in ranked, i run into certain premades all the time and dont find it to be a big deal because the matches are close and seem to be even.

Lastly you saying your fighting 2 vs 1 means nothing. it could of been 2 vs 2 at mid one of your teammates died and 1 left to finish you at your point. Better yet the zerg mentality which your team loses a 3 vs 3 at a point and 2 run to you. Your saying you fighting 2 vs 1 but we have no idea the circumstance of the fights.

Im sorry not to be a downer but solo que imo was always a bad thing. People ran in ther ewith builds not good for team play and said oh i won my fight or i carried when you ran all skills for just yourself. Max invisibility thiefs, signet warriors, turret engys who sit, max invisibility mesmers. It sounds like your on Eu so it might be different for you but from where i sit i disagree.

First of all, I would rather have longer queues than getting the matches I’ve been getting. They’re really not fun at all. And it’s not because of losing, it’s because they’re frustrating as hell. People making beginner mistakes, not knowing the basics. There’s literally nothing I can do. I actually enjoy the games with people who are good at this game, those matches are fun. And no, matchmaking is really not working. If it was, I wouldn’t be matched with someone who is REALLY new one game and top players next game.

Alright, sorry for not clearing that one up. About the 2v1’s, I was thinking about a few situations when I just had 2v1 from the start, not my teammate dying. It’s really not a big issue, anyone okay at this game could 2v1 those players. It just points out to matchmaking not working again.

And you think people will run different builds just because there is no soloq? People will run what they feel like running if they queue solo. Sorry to burst your bubble but there are still turret engis (and even more of them now), signet warriors, perma stealth thieves and pu mesmers.

I don’t believe there is evidence enough to bring the old solo queue back and possibly much longer queue times. My personal experience is that it works ok for the most part. Maybe if I queue solo rated 10 times I might get 6 where its all solo, 3 where its 2 or 3 on the other side grouped, and 1 premade. Not to mention the fact that there might be games where I benefit from partial groups on my team versus all solos. Remember there are ways to check this by clicking on enemy names before the match and seeing if you have the option to invite to group. I feel that some of this is perception not grounded in fact. People get an unlucky streak and act like its solo versus full premade all the time or they don’t check to see if opposition is grouped so if they get crushed it must be because some people were grouped on the opposition.

Trevor Boyer.6524:

The frequency of 4v5s has gone up for a couple reasons. Firstly, I’m hearing people complain about lag so I’m sure there are DCs going on. Secondly, the MMR matching has been terrible lately and a lot of people are just leaving games when they see their team of combat healers being murdered by a bunch of legendary champions.

Your diagnosis is incorrect. The increased number of 4v5 is most likely due to the bug that makes a queue pops in the middle of a match, and people who accept are taken out.

Furthermore, you shouldn’t take titles so seriously. Some players just take the one that fits their play style (guild warrior, combat healer for a shoutbow). Legendary Champion is too often use by players insecure about their personal skill. “The blazing light” for example is an amazing title, I don’t care about it being pve.

Sorel.4870:

Trevor Boyer.6524:

The frequency of 4v5s has gone up for a couple reasons. Firstly, I’m hearing people complain about lag so I’m sure there are DCs going on. Secondly, the MMR matching has been terrible lately and a lot of people are just leaving games when they see their team of combat healers being murdered by a bunch of legendary champions.

Your diagnosis is incorrect. The increased number of 4v5 is most likely due to the bug that makes a queue pops in the middle of a match, and people who accept are taken out.

Furthermore, you shouldn’t take titles so seriously. Some players just take the one that fits their play style (guild warrior, combat healer for a shoutbow). Legendary Champion is too often use by players insecure about their personal skill. “The blazing light” for example is an amazing title, I don’t care about it being pve.

Wouldn’t the queue pop appear to everyone though? It’s more that people don’t even get into the match or leave before it starts rather than leaving mid match.

About titles, I think everyone can use whatever they want. Some people like Legendary Champion, doesn’t mean they’re insecure. For instance I use Reaper just because I like it, not because of rank. (Even though it’s not for r80, js different people like different things.)

Laraley.7695:

kdaddy.5431:

I disagree, i was in NA and at the end there for solo ques i was having to wait 8-15 min and was only playing the elite players in the game. I was actually yolo queing in team ques to get into matches. Not to mention that people who right about fighting premades all the time have been called out and have had salt thrown back at them but refuse to listen and just say stuff like “mm atm isnt working” because i say so.

Before i started using mesmer i was over 55% in solo queing in ranked, i run into certain premades all the time and dont find it to be a big deal because the matches are close and seem to be even.

Lastly you saying your fighting 2 vs 1 means nothing. it could of been 2 vs 2 at mid one of your teammates died and 1 left to finish you at your point. Better yet the zerg mentality which your team loses a 3 vs 3 at a point and 2 run to you. Your saying you fighting 2 vs 1 but we have no idea the circumstance of the fights.

Im sorry not to be a downer but solo que imo was always a bad thing. People ran in ther ewith builds not good for team play and said oh i won my fight or i carried when you ran all skills for just yourself. Max invisibility thiefs, signet warriors, turret engys who sit, max invisibility mesmers. It sounds like your on Eu so it might be different for you but from where i sit i disagree.

First of all, I would rather have longer queues than getting the matches I’ve been getting. They’re really not fun at all. And it’s not because of losing, it’s because they’re frustrating as hell. People making beginner mistakes, not knowing the basics. There’s literally nothing I can do. I actually enjoy the games with people who are good at this game, those matches are fun. And no, matchmaking is really not working. If it was, I wouldn’t be matched with someone who is REALLY new one game and top players next game.

Alright, sorry for not clearing that one up. About the 2v1’s, I was thinking about a few situations when I just had 2v1 from the start, not my teammate dying. It’s really not a big issue, anyone okay at this game could 2v1 those players. It just points out to matchmaking not working again.

And you think people will run different builds just because there is no soloq? People will run what they feel like running if they queue solo. Sorry to burst your bubble but there are still turret engis (and even more of them now), signet warriors, perma stealth thieves and pu mesmers.

Once again imo i feel people change there builds based on going into team que. Ive literally had turret engy change characters mid match since they couldnt leave a cap point without getting killed. I use to run into signet warriors all the time in solo ques and i never see them anymore. Will there be a few people, yeah of course but once again. You have a few people asking for solo que when ultimately the masses are playing better in team que and the game was meant for people to team up.

Geikamir.6329:

@k daddy

So what you’re saying is that you typically play in premades and see nothing wrong with the way the matchmaking currently works. Hmmm, I can’t imagine why.

you probably cant read since i did say i mostly solo que and i had kitten win rate solo queing before i went to mesmer but its ok were all learning new things everyday.

kdaddy.5431:

Laraley.7695:

kdaddy.5431:

I disagree, i was in NA and at the end there for solo ques i was having to wait 8-15 min and was only playing the elite players in the game. I was actually yolo queing in team ques to get into matches. Not to mention that people who right about fighting premades all the time have been called out and have had salt thrown back at them but refuse to listen and just say stuff like “mm atm isnt working” because i say so.

Before i started using mesmer i was over 55% in solo queing in ranked, i run into certain premades all the time and dont find it to be a big deal because the matches are close and seem to be even.

Lastly you saying your fighting 2 vs 1 means nothing. it could of been 2 vs 2 at mid one of your teammates died and 1 left to finish you at your point. Better yet the zerg mentality which your team loses a 3 vs 3 at a point and 2 run to you. Your saying you fighting 2 vs 1 but we have no idea the circumstance of the fights.

Im sorry not to be a downer but solo que imo was always a bad thing. People ran in ther ewith builds not good for team play and said oh i won my fight or i carried when you ran all skills for just yourself. Max invisibility thiefs, signet warriors, turret engys who sit, max invisibility mesmers. It sounds like your on Eu so it might be different for you but from where i sit i disagree.

First of all, I would rather have longer queues than getting the matches I’ve been getting. They’re really not fun at all. And it’s not because of losing, it’s because they’re frustrating as hell. People making beginner mistakes, not knowing the basics. There’s literally nothing I can do. I actually enjoy the games with people who are good at this game, those matches are fun. And no, matchmaking is really not working. If it was, I wouldn’t be matched with someone who is REALLY new one game and top players next game.

Alright, sorry for not clearing that one up. About the 2v1’s, I was thinking about a few situations when I just had 2v1 from the start, not my teammate dying. It’s really not a big issue, anyone okay at this game could 2v1 those players. It just points out to matchmaking not working again.

And you think people will run different builds just because there is no soloq? People will run what they feel like running if they queue solo. Sorry to burst your bubble but there are still turret engis (and even more of them now), signet warriors, perma stealth thieves and pu mesmers.

Once again imo i feel people change there builds based on going into team que. Ive literally had turret engy change characters mid match since they couldnt leave a cap point without getting killed. I use to run into signet warriors all the time in solo ques and i never see them anymore. Will there be a few people, yeah of course but once again. You have a few people asking for solo que when ultimately the masses are playing better in team que and the game was meant for people to team up.

Let me give you an example. I already posted it in a different thread. I asked them if they could switch, no one did. The dude was running celestial condi mesmer. Can you please tell me how this is different? And it’s like that almost every match.

kdaddy.5431:

Laraley.7695:

kdaddy.5431:

I disagree, i was in NA and at the end there for solo ques i was having to wait 8-15 min and was only playing the elite players in the game. I was actually yolo queing in team ques to get into matches. Not to mention that people who right about fighting premades all the time have been called out and have had salt thrown back at them but refuse to listen and just say stuff like “mm atm isnt working” because i say so.

Before i started using mesmer i was over 55% in solo queing in ranked, i run into certain premades all the time and dont find it to be a big deal because the matches are close and seem to be even.

Lastly you saying your fighting 2 vs 1 means nothing. it could of been 2 vs 2 at mid one of your teammates died and 1 left to finish you at your point. Better yet the zerg mentality which your team loses a 3 vs 3 at a point and 2 run to you. Your saying you fighting 2 vs 1 but we have no idea the circumstance of the fights.

Im sorry not to be a downer but solo que imo was always a bad thing. People ran in ther ewith builds not good for team play and said oh i won my fight or i carried when you ran all skills for just yourself. Max invisibility thiefs, signet warriors, turret engys who sit, max invisibility mesmers. It sounds like your on Eu so it might be different for you but from where i sit i disagree.

First of all, I would rather have longer queues than getting the matches I’ve been getting. They’re really not fun at all. And it’s not because of losing, it’s because they’re frustrating as hell. People making beginner mistakes, not knowing the basics. There’s literally nothing I can do. I actually enjoy the games with people who are good at this game, those matches are fun. And no, matchmaking is really not working. If it was, I wouldn’t be matched with someone who is REALLY new one game and top players next game.

Alright, sorry for not clearing that one up. About the 2v1’s, I was thinking about a few situations when I just had 2v1 from the start, not my teammate dying. It’s really not a big issue, anyone okay at this game could 2v1 those players. It just points out to matchmaking not working again.

And you think people will run different builds just because there is no soloq? People will run what they feel like running if they queue solo. Sorry to burst your bubble but there are still turret engis (and even more of them now), signet warriors, perma stealth thieves and pu mesmers.

Once again imo i feel people change there builds based on going into team que. Ive literally had turret engy change characters mid match since they couldnt leave a cap point without getting killed. I use to run into signet warriors all the time in solo ques and i never see them anymore. Will there be a few people, yeah of course but once again. You have a few people asking for solo que when ultimately the masses are playing better in team que and the game was meant for people to team up.

Then have a team queue for teams and a solo queue for solo players. Problem solved.

Laraley.7695:

kdaddy.5431:

Laraley.7695:

kdaddy.5431:

I disagree, i was in NA and at the end there for solo ques i was having to wait 8-15 min and was only playing the elite players in the game. I was actually yolo queing in team ques to get into matches. Not to mention that people who right about fighting premades all the time have been called out and have had salt thrown back at them but refuse to listen and just say stuff like “mm atm isnt working” because i say so.

Before i started using mesmer i was over 55% in solo queing in ranked, i run into certain premades all the time and dont find it to be a big deal because the matches are close and seem to be even.

Lastly you saying your fighting 2 vs 1 means nothing. it could of been 2 vs 2 at mid one of your teammates died and 1 left to finish you at your point. Better yet the zerg mentality which your team loses a 3 vs 3 at a point and 2 run to you. Your saying you fighting 2 vs 1 but we have no idea the circumstance of the fights.

Im sorry not to be a downer but solo que imo was always a bad thing. People ran in ther ewith builds not good for team play and said oh i won my fight or i carried when you ran all skills for just yourself. Max invisibility thiefs, signet warriors, turret engys who sit, max invisibility mesmers. It sounds like your on Eu so it might be different for you but from where i sit i disagree.

First of all, I would rather have longer queues than getting the matches I’ve been getting. They’re really not fun at all. And it’s not because of losing, it’s because they’re frustrating as hell. People making beginner mistakes, not knowing the basics. There’s literally nothing I can do. I actually enjoy the games with people who are good at this game, those matches are fun. And no, matchmaking is really not working. If it was, I wouldn’t be matched with someone who is REALLY new one game and top players next game.

Alright, sorry for not clearing that one up. About the 2v1’s, I was thinking about a few situations when I just had 2v1 from the start, not my teammate dying. It’s really not a big issue, anyone okay at this game could 2v1 those players. It just points out to matchmaking not working again.

And you think people will run different builds just because there is no soloq? People will run what they feel like running if they queue solo. Sorry to burst your bubble but there are still turret engis (and even more of them now), signet warriors, perma stealth thieves and pu mesmers.

Once again imo i feel people change there builds based on going into team que. Ive literally had turret engy change characters mid match since they couldnt leave a cap point without getting killed. I use to run into signet warriors all the time in solo ques and i never see them anymore. Will there be a few people, yeah of course but once again. You have a few people asking for solo que when ultimately the masses are playing better in team que and the game was meant for people to team up.

Let me give you an example. I already posted it in a different thread. I asked them if they could switch, no one did. The dude was running celestial condi mesmer. Can you please tell me how this is different? And it’s like that almost every match.

Im sorry i dont see the big problem, if everyone solo qued its still a even match. I once won a match where everyone solo qued and we had 3 mesmers and 2 thieves. If you play with good players no matter what class you can win a casual ranked match.

For example i run a staff condi memser so i tend to fight on the points for 2 vs 2 situations. Your complaining because you didnt like that your team had all light armor characters yet the other team had 2 rangers so you actually should of been able to beat them in 2 vs 2 off/on a point with the mesmers. Obviously i dont know how your match went but ive been on a team with all heavies before and lost and ive been on a all squishy team and won.

Lastly it would be no different if all these people qued in solo que and you got these same exact teams in solo que. It feels like your complaining about MM instead of the rank/solo ques.

kdaddy.5431:

Laraley.7695:

kdaddy.5431:

Laraley.7695:

kdaddy.5431:

I disagree, i was in NA and at the end there for solo ques i was having to wait 8-15 min and was only playing the elite players in the game. I was actually yolo queing in team ques to get into matches. Not to mention that people who right about fighting premades all the time have been called out and have had salt thrown back at them but refuse to listen and just say stuff like “mm atm isnt working” because i say so.

Before i started using mesmer i was over 55% in solo queing in ranked, i run into certain premades all the time and dont find it to be a big deal because the matches are close and seem to be even.

Lastly you saying your fighting 2 vs 1 means nothing. it could of been 2 vs 2 at mid one of your teammates died and 1 left to finish you at your point. Better yet the zerg mentality which your team loses a 3 vs 3 at a point and 2 run to you. Your saying you fighting 2 vs 1 but we have no idea the circumstance of the fights.

Im sorry not to be a downer but solo que imo was always a bad thing. People ran in ther ewith builds not good for team play and said oh i won my fight or i carried when you ran all skills for just yourself. Max invisibility thiefs, signet warriors, turret engys who sit, max invisibility mesmers. It sounds like your on Eu so it might be different for you but from where i sit i disagree.

First of all, I would rather have longer queues than getting the matches I’ve been getting. They’re really not fun at all. And it’s not because of losing, it’s because they’re frustrating as hell. People making beginner mistakes, not knowing the basics. There’s literally nothing I can do. I actually enjoy the games with people who are good at this game, those matches are fun. And no, matchmaking is really not working. If it was, I wouldn’t be matched with someone who is REALLY new one game and top players next game.

Alright, sorry for not clearing that one up. About the 2v1’s, I was thinking about a few situations when I just had 2v1 from the start, not my teammate dying. It’s really not a big issue, anyone okay at this game could 2v1 those players. It just points out to matchmaking not working again.

And you think people will run different builds just because there is no soloq? People will run what they feel like running if they queue solo. Sorry to burst your bubble but there are still turret engis (and even more of them now), signet warriors, perma stealth thieves and pu mesmers.

Once again imo i feel people change there builds based on going into team que. Ive literally had turret engy change characters mid match since they couldnt leave a cap point without getting killed. I use to run into signet warriors all the time in solo ques and i never see them anymore. Will there be a few people, yeah of course but once again. You have a few people asking for solo que when ultimately the masses are playing better in team que and the game was meant for people to team up.

Let me give you an example. I already posted it in a different thread. I asked them if they could switch, no one did. The dude was running celestial condi mesmer. Can you please tell me how this is different? And it’s like that almost every match.

Im sorry i dont see the big problem, if everyone solo qued its still a even match. I once won a match where everyone solo qued and we had 3 mesmers and 2 thieves. If you play with good players no matter what class you can win a casual ranked match.

For example i run a staff condi memser so i tend to fight on the points for 2 vs 2 situations. Your complaining because you didnt like that your team had all light armor characters yet the other team had 2 rangers so you actually should of been able to beat them in 2 vs 2 off/on a point with the mesmers. Obviously i dont know how your match went but ive been on a team with all heavies before and lost and ive been on a all squishy team and won.

Lastly it would be no different if all these people qued in solo que and you got these same exact teams in solo que. It feels like your complaining about MM instead of the rank/solo ques.

Lol, no. I wasn’t complaing about weight of armour. I was poitning out that not everyone runs not a selfish build as you stated. Actually most people just run what’s easy. And no, winning Legacy with basically no one who can stand on a point is a difficult job.

I can’t influence 4 other players into doing reasonable decisions and I make some mistakes, too. But if you tell me that matchmaking is working, prove it. Because I’ve been doing nothing but giving you proofs of how it doesn’t work. Just look at the comp, that’s a complete mm fail.

I said both are issues, fix one or another and in the best case fix both.

‘If you play with good players…’ Yeah.

Im sorry you havent proven anything. Also imo mesmer is the hardest class to play and be good at it. Also you havent stated how that match went. If the match was 500-350 alot of people would consider it close. Lastly if you play 10 plus matches a day having 1-2 bad matches gonna happen. If you play 3-4 and you get 2 bad matches it gonna happen.

Bringing back solo que wont fix that

kdaddy.5431:

Im sorry you havent proven anything. Also imo mesmer is the hardest class to play and be good at it. Also you havent stated how that match went. If the match was 500-350 alot of people would consider it close. Lastly if you play 10 plus matches a day having 1-2 bad matches gonna happen. If you play 3-4 and you get 2 bad matches it gonna happen.

Bringing back solo que wont fix that

I don’t remember the exact score, it was something around 500:100. No, let’s say I play 20 matches a day and 15 of them are either 4v5’s or plain horrible. The last two days at least.

If you see three mesmers on one side and two rangers on other and can’t see how matchmaking fails there, then I don’t know how to answer to you anymore.

Edit: My matches in soloq or even solo in teamq were much more fun than what I’ve been having lately.

It’s really odd. I dread when the queue timer goes a minute or two over the average. People jump in unranked to play footsie off point down 2 caps to 1 and continue to do so without regard for winning.

“I just gotta chase that kill, yo.”

Random Arenas, maybe, please?

TheAngryDuckling.5481:

Random Arenas, maybe, please?

Erm, what?

+1.

It’s basically a give-up round when you’re matched up against premades. There’s no way you can carry 3-4 other people no matter how well you do, unless the premades are trash.

I will say though MMR doesn’t seem to really work. A lot of players simply don’t carry much weight. In my queue experience, every q has 1-2 people on each team that does most of the work, and the others are just fillers…

Laraley.7695:

TheAngryDuckling.5481:

Random Arenas, maybe, please?

Erm, what?

Google it?

TheAngryDuckling.5481:

Laraley.7695:

TheAngryDuckling.5481:

Random Arenas, maybe, please?

Erm, what?

Google it?

I don’t get your point, it’s like old soloq.

I get what they tried to do with the new system, I do, really, and even with the removal of solo queue turning into the system we currently have, it wouldn’t be such a travesty if the game wasn’t so lacking in one key element; player preference.

Some people would prefer to have the largest quantity of games possible during their play time, while other people prefer to have the “closest to being fair” matchups they can possibly have, so outside of the complete lack of transparent “resources” issue that can be brought up, why isn’t their a “player prompt” added to the queuing system? Especially because as far as I can tell, the glicko2 system used for matchmaking does a statistical analysis of how the matches will go ahead of time.

It could be as something as simple as a prompt ahead of “accepting” participation in the queue saying “hey, this calculated matchup consists of a group or multiple groups of players, do you still accept to participate or would your prefer to requeue” or even just “hey, this predetermined matchup only calculates your team at having a 5% win chance against the other team, would you still like to proceed, or would you like to requeue?”

People could then decide whether they want the quickest games they can get or the most accurate games they can get, all without altering the matchmaking system or current system as a whole, and simply adding some additional logic to the queuing process if the hardware can handle that logic.

Really, that’s the best solution I can think of.

Yup, agree with everything OP said.

PvP is dekitten, its always been this way. Rank farming + Automatch issue is the first ever problem since gw2 launched. How arena fixed’ it? They concealed the pvp rank of players instead xD

I concur with the concept of arena, but for competitive game-play in pvp, there is just no casual type, at least not to me. I could not define whats fun for everyone, but for me, its all about sparing with players who had the same playing skill with me. I felt bad for all these new players actually, they got verbal abuse, name callings, trashed by veteran players etc etc.

The only salvation for this is SEGREGATE PLAYERS IN PVP THROUGH RANKING.
Rabbit should play with anyone up to Deer, not with Pheonix and Dragons! If want to, only IF each other is in friendlist!