Guild Wars 2

Hi,

It’s been a while now since the pvp map “Raid on the Capricorn” has been removed. I’d really like to play it again, even without any modification.

I think the map was really beautiful and well designed, excepted maybe for the submarine fights issue. Everything was created. Removing it is just throwing this work away.

There are not so many maps in pvp, and I think this one could be quickly re-designed to become a great one. Just put the underwater capture node on the ship, and add kind of a minor event in the water, like a single strong shark which would give the team a bonus upon kill (just as Svanir and the Chieftain on Nifhel).

Minor work to bring it back and make many players happy ! Those who don’t like it… Just don’t play it !

I want to see this map also, because I really like the cannon (it’s much less obnoxious than Skyhammer).

I do feel like water combat in SPvP was removed for good reasons, though. One solution could be to make it a winter-themed map where the lagoon is frozen over. This’ll cost you some art time, but I think it’d make a pretty fun little map for Unranked with less effort than making a new one from scratch.

Yeah I agree. Place the cap node on the ship, freeze the sea = problem solved.
Even without freezing the sea, not placing anything underwater would solve the issue.

Bring it back, at least in custom arena !

Pomdepin.7068:

Even without freezing the sea, not placing anything underwater would solve the issue

No it wouldn’t. ANet removed underwater weapons from the PvP build entirely, which means that if you somehow got underwater in a PvP map you’d just have no weapons (or the game would crash? Honestly who knows) and it’d be pretty much terrible.

While I agree that losing maps sucks and I think this map had some really fun LoS spots (those palm trees), they’d have to fully remove the underwater components for it to fly, and since the map was originally designed around the underwater components they might as well just give us a brand new Conquest map for similar levels of effort instead.

Oh right, didn’t think about that.

So just freeze water ! ^^

I just want a cannon and a pirate ship, really. Don’t care besides that.

Cannon > Skyhammer

Pomdepin.7068:

Hi,

It’s been a while now since the pvp map “Raid on the Capricorn” has been removed. I’d really like to play it again, even without any modification.

I think the map was really beautiful and well designed, excepted maybe for the submarine fights issue. Everything was created. Removing it is just throwing this work away.

There are not so many maps in pvp, and I think this one could be quickly re-designed to become a great one. Just put the underwater capture node on the ship, and add kind of a minor event in the water, like a single strong shark which would give the team a bonus upon kill (just as Svanir and the Chieftain on Nifhel).

Minor work to bring it back and make many players happy ! Those who don’t like it… Just don’t play it !

I’ve already reported on this topic to anet at least 3 times now.
Two of those times being with much larger threads than this current one.

I do not believe freezing the water will be a good idea….It’s a tropical beach not Siberia, Russia or Northern Canada….

Some of the popular suggestions I’ve seen on this include:
1) Draining the water and hiding Point B on top of the ship’s Deck
2) Re-add underwater combat and remove the Hostile Sharks
3) Make the water Shallow and only go up to the players chest and make Point B the middle of the lake.

Personally I prefer option 2 and 3 that have been suggested by a lot of people.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Pomdepin.7068:

Even without freezing the sea, not placing anything underwater would solve the issue

No it wouldn’t. ANet removed underwater weapons from the PvP build entirely, which means that if you somehow got underwater in a PvP map you’d just have no weapons (or the game would crash? Honestly who knows) and it’d be pretty much terrible.

It was mostly removed since some classes dominated underwater combat way more effectively then other classes. …Ranger, Engineer, and Necro. It was just a convenience issue on the dev teams part to remove it then to re-balance underwater combat. There are numerous complaint threads originally on the state of underwater combat. The game will not crash, if anything the forums will crash from the same people complaining about op.

Turn the water into jade like the jade sea for the 1 guy that cares about lore in pvp..

robertul.3679:

Turn the water into jade like the jade sea for the 1 guy that cares about lore in pvp..

Not really a lore issue.. more of a visual appealing issue….
Rather a map go along one theme then two-three themes at once.

It’s like throwing 4th of July with Christmas lol

Redneckville anyone?

The Jade Sea idea is a good idea, but at that point you’d be better off making a whole new map to match the Luxon theme.

I do miss this map. Underwater combat was actually a pretty fun change of pace.

Keep the water or remove it, either way it’d be nice to see that map again. Where else can we fight on a freaking pirate ship?!

UW combat was/is kind of clunky but the map was fun to play from time to time. Would have to restore UW weapons in tPvP and put the map in unranked rotation or something.

Yes please. /15char

i used to not like this map because of the water combat and sharks but after skyhammer i realize how much this map wasn’t that bad lol. They should just get rid of the water, drain it out or something and have it shallow like the water on spirit watch and rework maybe a broken down version of the ship with the mid point on there or something.

just turn the water into ice i dont see why anet cant do that

leungctm.1362:

just turn the water into ice i dont see why anet cant do that

I thought about this for a long time and came up with one very reasonable explanation.

You see, if they did that then it would mean those sharks would freeze to death. That’s why they could be sued for animal cruelty and I’m sure their management doesn’t want that so they made a decision to simply forget about this map forever.

But at least we got Courtyard!!!

I’d take Capricorn over Courtyard, Spirit and Skyhammer ANY day!!

Just lower the water and put it in Custom Arenas?
I understand why it was taken out, and I still have my fond memories of playing the map. But I really do miss it, it was pretty. Also pirates.

Wolfey.3407:

Pomdepin.7068:

Hi,

It’s been a while now since the pvp map “Raid on the Capricorn” has been removed. I’d really like to play it again, even without any modification.

I think the map was really beautiful and well designed, excepted maybe for the submarine fights issue. Everything was created. Removing it is just throwing this work away.

There are not so many maps in pvp, and I think this one could be quickly re-designed to become a great one. Just put the underwater capture node on the ship, and add kind of a minor event in the water, like a single strong shark which would give the team a bonus upon kill (just as Svanir and the Chieftain on Nifhel).

Minor work to bring it back and make many players happy ! Those who don’t like it… Just don’t play it !

I’ve already reported on this topic to anet at least 3 times now.
Two of those times being with much larger threads than this current one.

I do not believe freezing the water will be a good idea….It’s a tropical beach not Siberia, Russia or Northern Canada….

Some of the popular suggestions I’ve seen on this include:
1) Draining the water and hiding Point B on top of the ship’s Deck
2) Re-add underwater combat and remove the Hostile Sharks
3) Make the water Shallow and only go up to the players chest and make Point B the middle of the lake.

Thanks for your feedback. That’s right it is a tropical map, ice would be strange. The other proposed options are very good though ! Don’t understand why they don’t do it if so many people want it back… At least custom arena, where Skyhammer and Courtyard are also here whereas many players don’t like them !