Guild Wars 2

I know I have been critical and said it sucks but it doesn’t. It is really fun tbh. So much more fun than standing in a circle. I really enjoy it and so does everyone. it shows what gw2 pvp could be going forward.

However, why remove stronghold now? Just let us play it for longer. I dont want to go back to boring conquest. Come on anet. Give us stronghold again please

Signed. 1 game of conquest and I’m already bored as hell.

Lordrosicky.5813:

However, why remove stronghold now?

Some men is suits. The reason for most less-than-ideal scenarios we are faced with in the 21st century.

(as one of them..)

lol.

But agree, when’s the next beta? It was interesting last night watching people to start to react and adjust to the game mode. As I said before biggest issue with small beta windows on something new is people getting into to figure out the design and be able to provide reasonable feedback.

We should get at least week long beta peroids. Nobody wants to play conquest anymore. It is terrible.

I only got to play 3 games last time and wasn’t sold at all but had a great time this beta, I can see it has a lot of potential – getting more complex the more you play and understand it. But please put it in a seperate queue from conquest when its released.

Things that might need looking over are Archers (Maybe give them some sort of offensive Aura for nearby players to make them worth while? Nothing too game breaking doesn’t even need to be up 100% but think they need something and I’d rather they buffed players than had an OP attack of their own) and some sort of fiddling with the game ending on timer wins (put Lord damage into the calculation some how?).

More betas please.

Stronghold is just horrible , you cant call that pvp .

It’s still in game. Open your friend’s list > lfg > dungeons

Thangorodrim.2748:

Stronghold is just horrible , you cant call that pvp .

I just like it because necro is OP in it. Always have life force on condi necro for once is nice. It is like WvW. The only other time you keep life force on condi necro is if your team just trashes the opposition

Lordrosicky.5813:

I know I have been critical and said it sucks but it doesn’t. It is really fun tbh. So much more fun than standing in a circle. I really enjoy it and so does everyone. it shows what gw2 pvp could be going forward.

However, why remove stronghold now? Just let us play it for longer. I dont want to go back to boring conquest. Come on anet. Give us stronghold again please

If you like Stronghold so much, there is something else you might like. It is called PvE. Try it.

style.6173:

Lordrosicky.5813:

I know I have been critical and said it sucks but it doesn’t. It is really fun tbh. So much more fun than standing in a circle. I really enjoy it and so does everyone. it shows what gw2 pvp could be going forward.

However, why remove stronghold now? Just let us play it for longer. I dont want to go back to boring conquest. Come on anet. Give us stronghold again please

If you like Stronghold so much, there is something else you might like. It is called PvE. Try it.

Good one mate. You are a on a roll. Keep it up.

Stronghold was fun. It was different. And will definitely make a comeback for sure. But Stronghold was clearly less PvP. All PvP is about earning points, PPT, and in PvP you rack up points via PvP, but in Stronghold you racked up points via PvE objectives. This should be brought back, but as it is, it’s more suited as an Activity along with sanctum sprint and keg brawl. Where players win via PvE objectives while competing against each other. If they brought it back in PvP, there’d definitely need to change the mechanics around a bit.

I don’t uderstand all this PvE stuff. GvG was the most respected mode for PvP in GW1, some of the most respected players were Rangers who spent a lot of their games pressuring a Rt while degening out a base of NPCs. The game revolved around dealing with NPCs with a strategy for winning – either holding the game level while you kept picking off NPCs for VoD or even taking a setup designed to buff the NPCs at the end.

The setup is designed to have strategic choices, if you just pugged the beta you won’t be able to notice that I guess.

This whole “its PvE” attitude is very narrow minded and doesn’t appreciate the map with a lot going on. If you had bad games with pugs because all they knew to do was zerg then you really didn’t get a good view of it.

Coulter.2315:

I don’t uderstand all this PvE stuff. GvG was the most respected mode for PvP in GW1, some of the most respected players were Rangers who spent a lot of their games pressuring a Rt while degening out a base of NPCs. The game revolved around dealing with NPCs with a strategy for winning – either holding the game level while you kept picking off NPCs for VoD or even taking a setup designed to buff the NPCs at the end.

The setup is designed to have strategic choices, if you just pugged the beta you won’t be able to notice that I guess.

This whole “its PvE” attitude is very narrow minded and doesn’t appreciate the map with a lot going on. If you had bad games with pugs because all they knew to do was zerg then you really didn’t get a good view of it.

Agreed.

+1 bring Stronghold back please. Conquest is too boring after you have a taste of Stronghold.

For the people who complain about PvE, I bet they also complain that LoL and Dota are PvE, since you kill 300+ NPCs per match.

I liked it because I finally started seeing some new builds. People were experimenting and it was fun as hell.

Lordrosicky.5813:

style.6173:

Lordrosicky.5813:

I know I have been critical and said it sucks but it doesn’t. It is really fun tbh. So much more fun than standing in a circle. I really enjoy it and so does everyone. it shows what gw2 pvp could be going forward.

However, why remove stronghold now? Just let us play it for longer. I dont want to go back to boring conquest. Come on anet. Give us stronghold again please

If you like Stronghold so much, there is something else you might like. It is called PvE. Try it.

Good one mate. You are a on a roll. Keep it up.

Also true. You might enjoy it more. I’m not even joking. If you enjoy killing NPCs, there is a whole world of them out there. Go do it.

You guys have to realize that stronghold is “fun” because it is different. Just wait until you have played on that single map a few hundred times with a meta that has “settled” and then see how much fun it is.

Not sure how narrow-minded the “PvE” crowd is but you cannot deny that after two and a half years of asking for more pvp-ish pvp, anet went ahead and designed something more pve-ish…

Coulter.2315:

I don’t uderstand all this PvE stuff.

There are PvE aspects in conquest too, but no one complains there. A healthy balance is okay. The PvE complaints about stronghold are because its PvE aspects are overwhelming its PvP aspects.

style.6173:

Lordrosicky.5813:

style.6173:

Lordrosicky.5813:

I know I have been critical and said it sucks but it doesn’t. It is really fun tbh. So much more fun than standing in a circle. I really enjoy it and so does everyone. it shows what gw2 pvp could be going forward.

However, why remove stronghold now? Just let us play it for longer. I dont want to go back to boring conquest. Come on anet. Give us stronghold again please

If you like Stronghold so much, there is something else you might like. It is called PvE. Try it.

Good one mate. You are a on a roll. Keep it up.

Also true. You might enjoy it more. I’m not even joking. If you enjoy killing NPCs, there is a whole world of them out there. Go do it.

Because PvE is every bit as strategic and competitive as Stronghold?

People are forgeting that PvP = Competition. If it’s not competitive; competing against another team, then it’s not PvP.

Get over the specific formalities please

I like the PvEvP nature of Stronghold but I don’t think it’s as good as Fort Aspenwood. I would prefer if Anet just copy-pasted Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry, Alliance Battles and Hall of Heroes directly into GW2. I don’t see a reason why they wouldn’t work great in GW2.