Guild Wars 2

This shouldnt need to be said, but anet are the kings of removing great features and have already removed the leaderboards in the past because….

Honestly this game has finally got some competition in it for the first time in forever. It means that for the first time in 2 years there is now something to compete at with gw2.

For the last two years all we have had is a few esports tournaments for people whose lives are flexible enough to be based around the game. There has no way for solo players to prove themselves.

When solo queue started, i noticed a huge skill gap between the top esl players and the rest. This gap is rapidly closing as there is now a source of regular high level competition for the solo hero. So these people have already improved drastically, and as many are more talented than the esl players they will likely surpass them soon.

So this solo queue system has saved the game. With this foundation you could actually get a vibrant esports scene now. There will be a proving ground for new players. A place for people to scout and recruit new talent for their teams, and a way for people to improve against other high rated players. For too long organised scrims has been the only decent competition to let people improve. Fortunately that is now over, and other players can get this competition to allow them to improve.

The solo system also creates a competitive community that will be the bedrock of any pvp viewing audience.

You have to keep the visible mmr, the leaderboards and the solo queue system. Otherwise this game will die once and for all. It cannot take another failure of a system. This system must be improved but kept in tact.

Only thing that needs doing is it should be solo queue only. Or duo queue needs to give greater penalties for a loss.

First, OP, I agree with you that we need to have only solo queue, that is, 1-man. We also need to have full 5-man team queue. However, it is impossible to have a competitive PvP system without good matchmaking. I strongly oppose on having duo, or 3-man teams. Here’s why.

Duos, like premades, manipulate and distort the matchmaking system when players make decisions to form parties. This distortion is what creates unbalanced and un-competitive games. In a sense, it’s “tricking” the system into giving your team a higher mmr than they deserve. This works against you too! I truly believe the matchmaking is meant for 5-man teams only. With 5-mans there is no discrepancy or distortion in the matchmaking. This might work with solo queue only, but I suggest modifying the matchmaking by accounting for individual skill.

Second, the competition is always there, it’s just that it’s being artificially restrained by bad, distorted matchmaking thanks to duo teams. In a nutshell, this season is the SAME as 1-4, you still have premades, except that instead of 2,3,4,5 man teams you just have 2.

Theres not enough players to support 5 man and solo ques even though its the best option.

What should happen is soloque remains without duo queing, and tourneys are added for full 5 man teams throughout the day. Say every third hour would encourage people to form a 5 man team and play together for greater bonuses on a win and they can continue as a team to vs the next matches winner.

Duo queue is super exploitable. Plat player goes on alt bronzie account to boost his friends MMR.

Either Duo queue should have a bigger rating win/lose penalty, restricted in some way, or removed.

Gwaihir.1745:

Theres not enough players to support 5 man and solo ques even though its the best option.

What should happen is soloque remains without duo queing, and tourneys are added for full 5 man teams throughout the day. Say every third hour would encourage people to form a 5 man team and play together for greater bonuses on a win and they can continue as a team to vs the next matches winner.

I like this idea!

Gwaihir.1745:

Theres not enough players to support 5 man and solo ques even though its the best option.

What should happen is soloque remains without duo queing, and tourneys are added for full 5 man teams throughout the day. Say every third hour would encourage people to form a 5 man team and play together for greater bonuses on a win and they can continue as a team to vs the next matches winner.

Yes this.

I played another pvp game that had stuff like that, it was awesome with tournaments going every evening and in that game it wasnt only top divisions that had them, there was tournaments running in all brackets, but dunno if we could support such a feature.

For the players there was also tons of stuff to spectate/twitch, both top lvl or bronze tournaments, which could be really funny.

Rewards were simple things like gems, skins etc. wouldnt cost anet a penny.

Also it would give a natural way to progress into pro scene and it would deffinitely help create a scene in the first place…

Gwaihir.1745:

Theres not enough players to support 5 man and solo ques even though its the best option.

What should happen is soloque remains without duo queing, and tourneys are added for full 5 man teams throughout the day. Say every third hour would encourage people to form a 5 man team and play together for greater bonuses on a win and they can continue as a team to vs the next matches winner.

This would be good. You should also be able to spectate these tournaments in game on a delay. Lastly, leaderboards with visible mmr must stay. Look how much it helps overwatch. If anet remove this then it woukd kill pvp

Master Ketsu.4569:

Duo queue is super exploitable. Plat player goes on alt bronzie account to boost his friends MMR.

Either Duo queue should have a bigger rating win/lose penalty, restricted in some way, or removed.

It is simple. When you lose as a duo queue you should lose 25% extra points than you do solo and should gain 25% less points when you win. This would allow people to continue playing with friends but would help make the leaderboard actually skill based.

I totally agree. Remove duo and have solo or team. The duos are the main sources of problems.

Gwaihir.1745:

Theres not enough players to support 5 man and solo ques even though its the best option.

What should happen is soloque remains without duo queing, and tourneys are added for full 5 man teams throughout the day. Say every third hour would encourage people to form a 5 man team and play together for greater bonuses on a win and they can continue as a team to vs the next matches winner.

I would love for Ranked to be just Solo Queue and 5v5 only Team Queue, and feel Team Queue could work well if they properly implement and promote it. However, in place of Team Queue, I think frequent 5v5 team tournaments would be great. Really love the idea.

Shaogin.2679:

Gwaihir.1745:

Theres not enough players to support 5 man and solo ques even though its the best option.

What should happen is soloque remains without duo queing, and tourneys are added for full 5 man teams throughout the day. Say every third hour would encourage people to form a 5 man team and play together for greater bonuses on a win and they can continue as a team to vs the next matches winner.

I would love for Ranked to be just Solo Queue and 5v5 only Team Queue, and feel Team Queue could work well if they properly implement and promote it. However, in place of Team Queue, I think frequent 5v5 team tournaments would be great. Really love the idea.

So basically the system they had 2 years ago? This was when pvp was most vibrant.

However, it is now very vibrant again as there is actually finally in game competition with actual skill based mmr leaderboards.

I hope anet dont mess it up. This system is awesome. Refine it slightly, but the core of a great system is in place.