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Posted by: Semprenaviguare.2936

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How nerf this cheat if isn t possible nerf infiltrator teleport ?

====> invulnerability for lord if :
one door isn ’ t down .
and if
4 npc guard isn’ t down .

isn ’ t normal just one player can rush lord no brain , no kill door and no kill adds .

with this nerf maybe player make a real strategie for down a lord and not just one man who close the match .

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Posted by: Teabaker.9524

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It should get fixed pretty soon.

And yes, no class should be able to solo the lords in such a short time.

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Posted by: Julival.4318

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You just saw how is performing the easiest class to play and the most OP one.
Try to solo lord with a ele, necro or engi and you will see how many skills you need to cycle through, not to say you will need to kill the other npcs and distroy door.
No wonder you see a 30% from total of players playing this noob class…

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Posted by: Stin.9781

Stin.9781

It should get fixed pretty soon.

And yes, no class should be able to solo the lords in such a short time.

…. Thieves are much slower at killing lord then are warriors and some other classes, just that we can skip lords guards.

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Posted by: Kerishan.8460

Kerishan.8460

Thief are ninja, so they can kill only lord without problems, what’s wrong?

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Posted by: Stin.9781

Stin.9781

Going past doors is a bug and it should be addresed though. Soloing lord isnt a big deal if door is opened you should expect it.

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Posted by: Recently.1043

Recently.1043

Killing the lord solo is fine. Skipping the door and the guards is not. Just make invisible walls above the outer wall so you can’t infiltrator arrow up there, and make the guild lord determined until the guards have been killed.

Call me when this game gets fixed…. if it ever does….

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Posted by: possante.8310

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It should get fixed pretty soon.

And yes, no class should be able to solo the lords in such a short time.

…. Thieves are much slower at killing lord then are warriors and some other classes, just that we can skip lords guards.

thieves are the only class can actually kill boss alone very quick. a warrior? a warrior need to kill first all adds, other team have more than time to send one guy to finish that warrior alone. i never see a warrior alone try kill lord, dont know what tournaments you are playing.

thieves can avoid the gate (so you dont have any warning…) plus he can completly avoid all adds on lord, lord alone is a piece of cake to kill, a thief dont even need to activate is elite.

you say " …just we can skilp lord guards". that just (and you forget to smentioned you can skip gates too) is what make thief insane OP on legacy foefire, is a 150 points other team cant do nothing to prevent it unless put someone always defend lord wich mean is a 100% loose match.

is not just OP is insane OP, anyone that do tournaments know that. need to be changed and quick

dont even need any player skill to kill lord or any tactic, just go there spam some skills and lord is dead…. amazing player indeed.

my team most of time kill lord but we need previous destroy gate, than open portal on graveyard send the rest of team for midle point than i open again portal near lord. with 3-4 guys and time warp we only focus on lord and are be able to kill him very quick (when have TM up), this i can say is tactic.

you can see my team doing that here: http://pt.twitch.tv/bonezor/b/344809212

go to 0:46:30 on video

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Posted by: Sheslat.6750

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my team most of time kill lord but we need previous destroy gate, than open portal on graveyard send the rest of team for midle point than i open again portal near lord. with 3-4 guys and time warp we only focus on lord and are be able to kill him very quick (when have TM up), this i can say is tactic.

you can see my team doing that here: http://pt.twitch.tv/bonezor/b/344809212

go to 0:46:30 on video

Then you say your tactic is legit but do with one thief who is easily to counterable its not legit, i think your post is just a rage post, some thinks must be changet but do it with one thief who is easily counterable its not legit,I think your post is just a rage post, something like through the door must be changed but you can kill the thief when he is doing the lord easy with only one guy and prevent it, pls tell me how you counter the portal (mesmer can bug the door too) and stop one full team to kill the lord with time warp?

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Posted by: possante.8310

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easily counterable? thief killing lord is the only thing your team cant do anything to prevent it, unless some of you die and respawn when thief id atacking lord, otherwise no one can reach fast enough to kill thief before he kill LORD .
thief will do a easy 1vs1 with lord and that thief is much more srong than lord, all he need to do is daze him when lord go to heal and thats it, lord is dead in second.
you dont even know thief is inside your base before he start atack lord and that is too late especially because he will just fight a very weak lord without any adds.

what my team do (and many others) is very easy to spot. will happen near 350 points , portal cant be far away from enemy base (dont have enought range) and all team will be together. if you see 4 guys run together with portal near them is because they will use this strategy to kill lord.

otherthing mesmer need to have portal available (90s CD) and TM (210s) otherwise kill lord will take to much time and other team can easy counter this sending just the point defender they have (a guardian alone will protect the lord with np) and this strategy they was suppose to finish the game can be a disaster.

thief just need have some stealth and thats it, is just one guy even if he failed he can try again and isnt a disaster, team will loose just one point (on worse case), on contrary mesmer portal mean that if you failed it you will loose all points

any team that do this mesmer strategy know exactly what they are gonna do. our point defender guardian can alone protect lord and kill everyone with help of adds (yes because with this stategy no one is atacking adds directly just focus on lord),so adds will gonna do lot of damage

you just need have attention to this:

-enemy team have around 350 points
-they are all together (you never see that on tournaments)
-they have a mesmer
- gate is already down and no one tryed even atack lord before(this mean they will gonna try for sure this strategy)
-even if you failed all this your point defender, your point atacker, or your graveyard bunker can clear see the mesmer run to enemy base to open the exit portal

thief lord strategy dont have almost any negative side (is just one guy) and you dont know when he will gonna try it because he dont have prepare anything, just need see when is team dont need really need help and then go very quick to lord and kill him in seconds. please tell me how you counter this? are you gonna put one guy of your team always near LORD when you see a thief on other team??

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Posted by: Seragi.5910

Seragi.5910

you guys must not read patchs xD…. they just fixed this issue. They moved guards around so they ahve to be agroed and buffed them a bit I believe

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Posted by: FuVirus.6398

FuVirus.6398

you guys must not read patchs xD…. they just fixed this issue. They moved guards around so they ahve to be agroed and buffed them a bit I believe

They dident fix anything lol. You can still solo lord with thief.

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Posted by: TGSlasher.1458

TGSlasher.1458

They are gaurds? They gaurd the lord?
The lord screams in pain, “ouch my spin”

The dim witted gaurds: “what was that”,

“Ouch, hey guys I’m getting my kitten kicked in here?”

Announcer: “Your Lord is under attack”

Guard: “our lord is under attack? nah, cant be, the gate isn’t down yet, are you having us on again announcer”

The Lord dies and the thief teleports away.

“Who’s that guy” says one gaurd
“He’s on green team?” (get it, green team, green dye)
“No green team on our list, only got to look out for the red ones, best ask the lord. “Hey lord … Lord … lord” turns around “OMG, the lord is dead”
“Not possible, the gate isn’t down”

So easy fix, attacking the lord aggros the guards.
Also, either allow all classes with teleports to go through the door, or don’t allow anyone too.

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Posted by: Zunhar.4079

Zunhar.4079

^LOL

/15char

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Posted by: possante.8310

possante.8310

TGSlasher i cant stop looooool

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Posted by: juanma.9813

juanma.9813

This game is pathetic at this moment, there’re too many bugs, xploits and more. But Anet do nothing, I can’t believe it…

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Posted by: Slan.5496

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I thought the title was please nerf hats, lol.

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Posted by: Prokiller.1472

Prokiller.1472

There’s an easy way to fix this, just have the guards aggro when the lord is being attacked. After the shadowstep to door fix I mean. Although, PW isn’t the best way for s/p to kill lord. Black powder + auto attack is more efficient assuming that the casters are dead.

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Posted by: Stin.9781

Stin.9781

Mesmers can also solo lord with invis… as can engineers with certain builds…. as can eles with RTL if they know where to use it. Door needs a fix fast though.

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