Guild Wars 2

Then only people who want to train would use this arena mod, not people who already are very good and just want to farm.
The way it is now you cannot really use this arena for training.

Except that people that are already good would end up getting more rewards for doing ranked PvP.

lordkrall.7241:

Except that people that are already good would end up getting more rewards for doing ranked PvP.

It seems they don’t care.

Steinpilz.5078:

It seems they don’t care.

Or maybe they weren’t as good as you think? Maybe they simply were the best of the worst so to speak.

What’s the point of “training” with bad players? You don’t really learn anything. With current meta builds you can already easily plough through all the “play how I want” guys with totally random skills\runes.

Steinpilz.5078:

Then only people who want to train would use this arena mod, not people who already are very good and just want to farm.
The way it is now you cannot really use this arena for training.

Playing as meat for teams? No thanks, I’ll be chilling and doing random matches in practice mode and fun servers until soloQ will come back or lolezportz tpvp will finally die and free its place for something good. From what I see, second option will come faster.
And stop trying to force people to play your dying mode.

Isslair.4908:

What’s the point of “training” with bad players? You don’t really learn anything. With current meta builds you can already easily plough through all the “play how I want” guys with totally random skills\runes.

Hahaha sad but true man. Sad but true.

98% of my games are from hot joins. You know why? Because I want join quicky without queue into map what I like without messing up other ppl leaderboards or what kids these days play for. I want kill ppl in pvp and I dont care about winning or losing match holding points or stuff like that.
Autobalance isnt perfect but is still better than play in unranked 4v5 vs premades all day. In hot joins is actualy much better chance to met good opponents what want fight instead of run of because “its for team”.

And thats why removing rewards from hot joins is bad idea because its only place I will play until devs add some serioous DM mods or better 1v1 arenas. So deal with it.

Just means people like me, who are only in the training arena to slowly earn the rewards, will invade your ranked arenas, you know.

This way I, as a horrible PvPer, can get what I want without unbalancing your ranked ones because I just don’t care if I get better or not in PvP. It is painful enough that I have to step foot in the PvP zone if I want those armor sets and the balthazar back piece. I have never been on the winning team side, but I do tend to be first or second place among the losers. That’s good enough for me.

Not only that, but I do not want to be in matches that last the full 15 minutes or whatever. If they were only 5 minutes, that’d be different.

Good players don’t play hot join anymore. Used to, back when you could at least hop in a match between ques but since you can’t anymore there’s absolutely no point to it. Unranked is essentially the same thing except without constant 4v5s and better rewards. Why anyone is in hotjoin still baffles me.

Just means people like me, who are only in the training arena to slowly earn the rewards, will invade your ranked arenas, you know.

I wouldn’t mind that at all.

Hotjoin is such a cesspool of everything not to do in a PvP match that it may be best to end its misery once and for all.

For every player who manages to look past the spawncamping, team stacking 4v5, and autobalance abuse to find actual arena matches, there are at least 10 who decided this putrid filth represented the rest of PvP in this game and left, never to return.

aye, even myself graduated to ranked arena already.

i rarely participate in “practice” hotjoin nowadays errrr.
i really got tired of playing auto balance wars.

No.

This suggestion does nothing positive at all except to let the OP to feel superior.

runeblade.7514:

No.

This suggestion does nothing positive at all except to let the OP to feel superior.

aye, true, removing rewards for hotjoin “practice” is not the solution.

SaintSnow.6593:

Why anyone is in hotjoin still baffles me.

Because this is only mode atm where you not automatically putting yourself into disadvantage just by pressing start button, only because anet want meat to plug holes in dying teamqueue.

Rednik.3809:

SaintSnow.6593:

Why anyone is in hotjoin still baffles me.

Because this is only mode atm where you not automatically putting yourself into disadvantage just by pressing start button, only because anet want meat to plug holes in dying teamqueue.

This is the situation in a nutshell. Newbies play “practice” mode because for them its the only way they have a chance at learning to play without impacting their team, however with this matchmaking system and stacking practice mode becomes a farming pit for the lv80 hotjoin heroes that I am seeing in """practice""" mode.

90% of custum arenas are rigged matches for pve players farming their dailys..

If you try to play(To get your daily on some random class you don’t actually play well) and roflstomp them they ban you.

Pretty much trash players abusing the system for rewards.

Darnis.4056:

If you try to play(To get your daily on some random class you don’t actually play well) and roflstomp them they ban you..

Failing even at farm arena is something new, really.

I hit the practice button for 3 hours on Saturday to test my condi thief. Why? Because no one takes practice seriously. Sure they zerg and sure the builds are just meta but really who cares? It’s a throw away match. Why should I not be rewarded for the 3 hours I played while training the most basic uses of teleports and stealth? There is no tutorial and there is not good mob tests so the only way to truly test is on other players. I normally main an engi so the thief play style is completely different. Why cause my team mates a loss in unranked or ranked when the whole point is to win in those matches?

There is also a reward cap on practice matches so you still earn less points in practice than unranked or ranked. Also, until SoloQ comes back with MMR based matches for your class, practice is probably the best you can hope for.

SaintSnow.6593:

Why anyone is in hotjoin still baffles me.

So they can bring a friend, 2v1 off a point after stacking the teams to 5v4 and still win. There is an earlier poster in this very thread who says ‘I just wanna kill people and not care about builds or points or anything’, ie. he doesn’t care if the score ends 500-25 as long as he gets his frags. Let this man play – in hotjoin.