Guild Wars 2

Same map rotation has been around for a long time already. It was supposed to be a temporary fix until random rotation was developed. But we have had it for 3 months already (I think it was added on january, correct me if im wrong) and it’s getting old.

For any team training or playing for a long session, maps get old really fast. If you ever liked one map, you will get tired of it really soon. This rotation also allows some teams to bring the “best” classes and builds for every map killing the fun, class and build variety. For example, on spirit watch week you only see teams running 3 eles with arcane shield.

I really think this issue should be looked at because once ladders are released and players start taking their ladder seriously, we will see the same classes with the same builds over and over (yeah, even worse than it is already).

I also think that once maps are finally random, there should be a few restrictions for class/build swapping once players get to know the map they are going to play. But that’s another topic…

I think this is the case of nearly all issues. Seems like 3 ppl can’t develop PvP alone.

With the disable of 3 round tourneys, i dont think anyone is willing to play the same map over and over for X days

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/8-Team-Tournaments-Disabled/first#post1722047

The overview is actually frightening. After 7 months we have a 1v1 tournament and fail-join. Pretty sad for 6 years of creating and 7 months in practice.

Yeah, if you just look at how we began in beta

• Hot join
• 3 round tournament playing all maps available

And how we are now:

• Hot join
• 1 round tournament. Sure we have more maps, but we only play 1
• Matchmaking

We only got

• the matchmaking
• and less playable maps.

And that happened in 7 months since release, a few more since betas

Swap maps daily would be nice. Then 1 for the weekend. Thats presuming it only takes 5 minutes to change the map which they suggested it did.

Edi: And seen as they did nothing to fix the ele domination of spirit watch I would rather they just dont include this map until they fix it.

Still looking for answers to this question:

Is the no map rotation temporary? Are you working on it?

Same map is killing pvp

If you can’t randomize it maybe a predefined rotation shared by all teams would help.
ie: one team joins foefire, next one joins kyhlo etc

Rerroll.9083:

Still looking for answers to this question:

Is the no map rotation temporary? Are you working on it?

Same map is killing pvp

If you can’t randomize it maybe a predefined rotation shared by all teams would help.
ie: one team joins foefire, next one joins kyhlo etc

Prob be temple till tuesday as today is easter friday and monday is easter monday. So they forgot to change us the map again did they?

And for me you are correct. Random map rotation would be my no.1 priority after balance.

This falls in the basket of things that shouldn’t be so hard or take so long but we have been waiting for months to get anyways. It’s a huge kittening basket.

Yeah and now we have to play forest of nifhel for a few days…

I fail to understand how hard can it be to randomize maps. This feature should also be in custom arenas so they should work on it…

When is the next map rotation?

DiogoSilva.7089:

When is the next map rotation?

“Soon”

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JonathanSharp.7094:

Right now custom arenas, leaderboards and spectator mode are higher in the priority queue, but this is still something we’ll be dealing with later.

Also keep in mind that once custom arenas hit, you (the players) can decide what maps you’re playing on, so we think that’ll help when you organize your own games. But yes, for tourneys, we still want to get more map variety.

thanks for the update

JonathanSharp.7094:

Right now custom arenas, leaderboards and spectator mode are higher in the priority queue, but this is still something we’ll be dealing with later.

Also keep in mind that once custom arenas hit, you (the players) can decide what maps you’re playing on, so we think that’ll help when you organize your own games. But yes, for tourneys, we still want to get more map variety.

Alright thanks for the information. Would it be too much work to change the map daily until we get the random maps? It would improve the tpvp experience a lot

I’m not a programmer or something like that, but… is that really so hard to create a random map generator? o.O

Kultas Sunstrider.9218:

I’m not a programmer or something like that, but… is that really so hard to create a random map generator? o.O

yes. it looks like this:

gw2_tourny_random_map_v3.py

from random import choice
new_map = choice([map for map in map_list if map != old_map])

very challenging and prone to bugs.
edit: added new feature to random map generator (can’t pick same map again) (took me several hrs)
edit 2: sorry anet there was a bug in my code pls update to version 3

Im not very sure because i never played pve, but I thought fractal maps were already random?

JonathanSharp.7094:

Right now custom arenas, leaderboards and spectator mode are higher in the priority queue, but this is still something we’ll be dealing with later.

Also keep in mind that once custom arenas hit, you (the players) can decide what maps you’re playing on, so we think that’ll help when you organize your own games. But yes, for tourneys, we still want to get more map variety.

Yep, when the leaderboard actually releases, you guys can finally see how broken your class balance currently is.
You’ll be seeing infinite eles on your broken new map spirit watch.

One step closer for your up in the heaven developter team to finally come down to Earth to see the truth, to see how people suffer.

Rerroll.9083:

Im not very sure because i never played pve, but I thought fractal maps were already random?

yep, they are, you get 3 random fractals (and never the same twice in the same 3-maps) every time you reset it
So I really don’t understand why it can’t be done with the “tournament”

so they could just copy the fractals pattern?

Given how simple it is to implement (randomizing maps) and how much negative feedback it has generated, I have difficulty understanding how the developers believe this change should be implemented after custom arenas, leaderboards and spectator mode.
At least, that’s how I interpreted the developer’s post. Playing the same map over and over again is not fun.

It’s almost as though the developers want players to leave the game out of boredom and/or frustration.

Kultas Sunstrider.9218:

I’m not a programmer or something like that, but… is that really so hard to create a random map generator? o.O

It is hard when you only have 6 maps.

JonathanSharp.7094:

… But yes, for tourneys, we still want to get more map variety.

At this point i have to say that the decision for domination only was and is a big mistake!

Give us 5 different maps and 3 different modes with random rotation and spvp would be so much better!

JonathanSharp.7094:

Right now custom arenas, leaderboards and spectator mode are higher in the priority queue, but this is still something we’ll be dealing with later.

Why are queue times so long