Plz no single build per class meta

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

Hello pvp balancing crew.

As an elementalist (Applies for other classes), while looking at the first balancing preview I noticed that you promoted a more damage oriented builds and the viability of picking traits that rarely see the light of the day nowadays, I was very excited by this, but then on the second notes with the specific changes noticed that only fresh air was boosted (very nice boost, but why only a single trait)!! please note that boosting multiple traits at the same time won’t make the class overpoweed because you are very likely to to pick one option or the other, not all buffed ones at once. With this said, why not making lightning rod a viable option for a different kind of gameplay? (CC) … simple changes like additionally giving a static charge on lightning rod would make it more appealing while not disrupting other game modes.
On this note, why only air is being boosted? why not fire, even while good on PvE, on pvp is not a favorite. I think reducing some cooldowns on this trait line would also make it more appealing without unbalancing PvE damage output, I am talking of traits like Burning fire or Blinding ashes.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Agree. Build diversity is important. I see its much harder to balance for e-sports but it´s doable. Bringing each class down to one viable e-sports build and focus on that is a very bad thing. Key for MMO´s is diversity and customisation.

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Posted by: Shirlias.8104

Shirlias.8104

For MMO is diversity.

For PVP is balance.

Diversity is mostly opposite to Balance

The More diversity, the less Balance, and viceversa.

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

Yeah, I see what you are saying, yet I think there are currently some healthy classes that have more than one viable build (correct me if wrong) such as necro, revenant and maybe ingeneer.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

And this is also dependent on the devs. High diversity will always lack somewhere having lesser viable skills, but good devs investing a lot effort can get both. I say it would be possible to create 3-5 viable and diffrent meta specs for each class and variants maybe not consided top but having their benefits. In the end you should involve the comunity to learn weaknesses and get good ideas how to work on perfection.
When i see the changes is see some good thoughts behind, but it feels like to less effort invested and to much influence from marketing/finance to make balance and diversity possible.

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Posted by: DEATHsCLAW.1978

DEATHsCLAW.1978

Yeah, I see what you are saying, yet I think there are currently some healthy classes that have more than one viable build (correct me if wrong) such as necro, revenant and maybe ingeneer.

necro has exactly 1 viable build and currently 2 semi-viable which are strenght soldier and cele signet.
they all simply run over any minion build easily while Carrion Frostfire kitten s the other 2 build too.

post patch it is getting worse bc of the removal of soldier and cele amulet (so no semi-viable build there) and on top of that they buff Frostfire making it the maybe best build in the game..

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Posted by: lighter.2708

lighter.2708

For MMO is diversity.

For PVP is balance.

Diversity is mostly opposite to Balance

The More diversity, the less Balance, and viceversa.

only within balance it exists diversity

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

For MMO is diversity.

For PVP is balance.

Diversity is mostly opposite to Balance

The More diversity, the less Balance, and viceversa.

only within balance it exists diversity

+1 This is so true.

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Posted by: Shirlias.8104

Shirlias.8104

That’s why they should focus on balance instead on diversity.

To me, 1 build x class with no choice at all ( want to play thief? its S/D SB with Marauder and Traits/Skills X Y and Z ) and devs will have only to balance the meta without thinking things like:

-Amulets
-Different Weapon Sets
-Different Skills/Traits

4 years have passed since release.
The proof is there was never a balanced SPVP.
Accepts it, and work in a different direction.

I would like to see the one who claim “i prefer an unbalanced game but the choice” instead “i prefer a balanced game with no choice”. And wait for him calling himself PVPER.