Guild Wars 2

What’s the point on voting for a map, ? One maybe two people vote for courtyard and the majority of players will want to play a different map yet the map with less votes always seems to come up.
I really don’t see why we vote when the map with less votes has a higher chance of being picked after the spin!

DjZeBeR.3549:

I really don’t see why we vote when the map with less votes has a higher chance of being picked after the spin!

Hopefully, the actual system does not work like this.

The map voting is just absurd. RNG should be involved only when there is a tie.
There is no point in playing a map with 1 or 2 votes, when another map has 7+ votes, but this happens very often.

The system is perfectly fair and functional. The things people can complain about is mind boggling. Go to China.

this ^
not everybody is acquainted with laws of probability and representation it seems.

DjZeBeR.3549:

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I really don’t see why we vote when the map with less votes has a higher chance of being picked after the spin!

It doesn’t. xD
If you have the feeling it is like that, that is why statistics dont work with small numbers. Quite simple, get over it! The votes give the exact probability of this map beeing played.
Some people just need to flame for the flaming….

Hammerguard.9834:

The system is perfectly fair and functional. The things people can complain about is mind boggling. Go to China.

Perhaps you should go to China. I have played enough skyhammers and courtyards when they were the least voted maps, the system is bullkitten like almost everything in this game.

I love this system, is the best I’ve seen in any vote selection (and not joking, even when 9-1 theres some emotion during the spin :p)

Necromonger.4970:

Hammerguard.9834:

The system is perfectly fair and functional. The things people can complain about is mind boggling. Go to China.

Perhaps you should go to China. I have played enough skyhammers and courtyards when they were the least voted maps, the system is bullkitten like almost everything in this game.

Go ranked, no more skyhammer and courtyard. Law of small numbers, look it up.

I love the system. If the highest voted maps were always picked, we’d be stuck in the same map every match. The current system works great and is really fair.

Tux kitten inguin.3049:

Necromonger.4970:

Hammerguard.9834:

The system is perfectly fair and functional. The things people can complain about is mind boggling. Go to China.

Perhaps you should go to China. I have played enough skyhammers and courtyards when they were the least voted maps, the system is bullkitten like almost everything in this game.

Go ranked, no more skyhammer and courtyard. Law of small numbers, look it up.

Your logic is just as faulty as his. Unless ANET releases the actual data, no one knows if it is actually working correctly or not.

RNG has to be in place or some people would never get their way. Given averages, you get your silly “meta” maps a majority of the time, and based on luck they will sometimes get their maps chosen. In the long run you end up with a fair pick, rarely the minority gets their way, a majority of the time the standard maps get picked.

It’s pretty selfish to think just because you’re with the majority, you should 100% always get your way…

style.6173:

Your logic is just as faulty as his. Unless ANET releases the actual data, no one knows if it is actually working correctly or not.

It’s not that hard to do some statistics, and Im fairly sure it will work.

The system is great. As people said, it allows people who like courtyard or sky hammer to still have their vote taken into account even if they are the only ones who like these maps.

I love courtyard, my only problem is that when you PUG, you usually favor 1v1 builds so I would love to be able to switch build more easily to put my team fighter builds. I always have a blast in courtyard when I play support and hate it when I play “roaming” builds.

Anet told it is like that some time ago and they will have no problem doing this simple programming.

I like the system.

Because of the RNG nature I don’t have to play every single game on Foefire.

Honestly, if something was done right in PvP structure for this game, the current voting system is one of these things. Wish more games used it.

DjZeBeR.3549:

What’s the point on voting for a map, ? One maybe two people vote for courtyard and the majority of players will want to play a different map yet the map with less votes always seems to come up.
I really don’t see why we vote when the map with less votes has a higher chance of being picked after the spin!

Ok so lets say you have 2 teams of 5 players 5 vote on one map 5 vote on the other what map gets picked? the votes are 0-5-5.

Also lets say you have 5 random players choosing from all maps vs an organized team with high mobility. The high mobility team would do very well on khylo with lots of blinks and a portal they can easily out rotate opponents so they all vote for khylo. Unfortunately one unsuspecting guy on the pug team chose khylo as well thus giving the enemy team an advantage for being organized.

Whether the Queue system is fixed to only put organized teams vs each other or not the suggestion you just made makes no sense.

It’s amusing reading “google how statistics work” posts.
A fair system is where the majority wins or it’s completely random(with an option to ban a few maps). Or how about they start doing good maps with less gimmicks.

Necromonger.4970:

It’s amusing reading “google how statistics work” posts.
A fair system is where the majority wins or it’s completely random(with an option to ban a few maps). Or how about they start doing good maps with less gimmicks.

A fair system is one where each person’s voice is heard. There are 10 people voting on the map, so there is 10% chance that the map I voted for will be selected. I can’t see how anyone could think this is unfair. You don’t always get the map you voted for? Well if you did, the system would be quite unfair don’t you think?

Now I agree, if there were no maps like skyhammer and spirit watch with mechanics so strong they destroy the game play, this would not be a problem…

I like this system. If the majority always got their way 100% of the time I’d never get to see some of the maps I enjoy most. The people who are against this system are incredibly selfish for not being willing to let us in the majority EVER have a say in what maps we get to play.

So you are saying that the one guy, that picked courtyard because he absolutely hates, let’s say, foefire, should get kittened 100% of the time just because the majority doesn’t like courtyard?
With 7+ people you have picket your map you have a 70%+ chance of playing it, it is simple and fair system, one of the rare system that actually works flawlessly. (apart from the screen lock on match pop, not able to right click turn while that is active makes me wanna punch my monitor :P)

In my eyes the vote is pointless if it’s already pre decided by an AI System! Also I did’t write this post to seem cool like someone said. Just expressing my self in the forums It’s called freedom of speech!

DjZeBeR.3549:

In my eyes the vote is pointless if it’s already pre decided by an AI System! Also I did’t write this post to seem cool like someone said. Just expressing my self in the forums It’s called freedom of speech!

The decided map is not determined just the number that decides the map. The votes determine within which threshold the number falls. For instance AI decides the map number is 0.19. If 1 person voted Foefire (assuming it is the first) and the rest spirit watch it will be spirit watch. If 2 people voted Foefire (assuming it is the first) and the rest spirit watch it will be Foefire .

NO. Keep it the way it is. Otherwise we will keep getting metamaps aka legacy and forest with no chance of getting khylo or temple.
Let me tell you about the map voting system from The Last Of Us multiplayer, where the majority wins (as would OP want). This lead to having a couple of the less popular multiplayer(PvP) maps almost inaccesible since u would always get outvoted. I could go for a few days without playing on the less popular maps, it’s just idiotic. The voting system is perfect the way it is. I dont want to play Forest or Legacy every match tyvm

Tim.6450:

DjZeBeR.3549:

In my eyes the vote is pointless if it’s already pre decided by an AI System! Also I did’t write this post to seem cool like someone said. Just expressing my self in the forums It’s called freedom of speech!

The decided map is not determined just the number that decides the map. The votes determine within which threshold the number falls. For instance AI decides the map number is 0.19. If 1 person voted Foefire (assuming it is the first) and the rest spirit watch it will be spirit watch. If 2 people voted Foefire (assuming it is the first) and the rest spirit watch it will be Foefire .

Yeah maybe I just had some bad luck with maps the last few days. I’t not a big deal to me I was just venting how I was feeling that day.

We can always go back to a hidden system and the only way you found out what the map was is when you loaded into it.

spinning map of fortune RNGesus is working as intended.

move along.

I imagine the whole reason it exists is so that we get a chance to experience all the maps. If the wheel always defaulted on what map had the highest votes, 90% of matches would be Foefire. Wouldn’t you get bored?

Maybe Anet should remove the vote and the spin decides?