Guild Wars 2

To clarify—because of title length constraints: I think Skyhammer should be removed from the Solo Queue rotation and left only in hotjoins. I also think this should’ve been done 1 week after its release (but that’s besides the point).

http://strawpoll.me/737903

/discuss

hell no

so fun pulling ppl

yes

and warrior too

Yes thx, only for hot join.

This map gives me cancer.

But seriously, please, remove it.

Yes, Skyhammer is a map that shows a complete ignorance towards competitive play.

It favors cheese builds and classes with knockbacks and Stability. The cannon ruins any sentiment of good PvP fights.

It can be salvaged, but that would mean pretty much removing all the things that make it “special”. So no energy floors, no stupid cannon.

The jump pads could be something used to give it a unique touch that doesn’t involve cheese and frustrating crap.

Take it as a fun map.
It´s not a tourny map, so stop complaining.
I enjoy it.

Yes.

End of the story.

Sky hammer is my favorite. I wish you couldn’t fall off the edge and only in the holes, then it’d be perfect.

Obviously YES! Actually i would rather AFK than playing skyhammer.

So I might be mistaken, but I believe I heard grouch saying that there were some slight modifications to the map to pave the way for a change down the road. Thinking logically, I dont think A-net is going to throw away one of their maps into hot-join. I currently agree that this map is incredibly not fun to play but maybe these map changes in the near future will make it bearable. In A-nets defense, the changes they made to Temple of the Silent Storm were pretty amazing and made the map tournament viable. I am willing to trust that this can be done again (well maybe Skyhammer will never be tournament viable but I can see it being playable in solo-q)

@candlecan

just no

than they can remove it and fix it for months wherever they want but not FORCE players to play on it a competive mode

this map is clearly broken and not to remove it from soloQ is just an insult

candlecan.9827:

So I might be mistaken, but I believe I heard grouch saying that there were some slight modifications to the map to pave the way for a change down the road. Thinking logically, I dont think A-net is going to throw away one of their maps into hot-join. I currently agree that this map is incredibly not fun to play but maybe these map changes in the near future will make it bearable. In A-nets defense, the changes they made to Temple of the Silent Storm were pretty amazing and made the map tournament viable. I am willing to trust that this can be done again (well maybe Skyhammer will never be tournament viable but I can see it being playable in solo-q)

Keep in mind when they released Temple, they put it into hotjoin only for months before releasing it into the Queued/Weekly rotation.
And instead of doing the same with Skyhammer, they just went balls to the wall and have made us endure through this way past what we should’ve.
I don’t disagree in saying that its a fun trolly map, but why should people trying to compete for “ranking” have to put up with such a sorry excuse for a competitive conquest map.

i got 6 consecutive skyhammer pops last night(half of which was a 4v5)…I thought I was going to die.

Remove it from solo q, it promotes nothing but trolling. You don’t even fight on skyhammer, you just try to see who can pull or fear the other person down first.

Not to mention whoever thought that it would be good gameplay that you can’t dodge skyhammer…well their thought process is extremely questionable.

Acandis.3250:

candlecan.9827:

So I might be mistaken, but I believe I heard grouch saying that there were some slight modifications to the map to pave the way for a change down the road. Thinking logically, I dont think A-net is going to throw away one of their maps into hot-join. I currently agree that this map is incredibly not fun to play but maybe these map changes in the near future will make it bearable. In A-nets defense, the changes they made to Temple of the Silent Storm were pretty amazing and made the map tournament viable. I am willing to trust that this can be done again (well maybe Skyhammer will never be tournament viable but I can see it being playable in solo-q)

Keep in mind when they released Temple, they put it into hotjoin only for months before releasing it into the Queued/Weekly rotation.
And instead of doing the same with Skyhammer, they just went balls to the wall and have made us endure through this way past what we should’ve.
I don’t disagree in saying that its a fun trolly map, but why should people trying to compete for “ranking” have to put up with such a sorry excuse for a competitive conquest map.

I completely agree that the map was forced on us. All I am suggesting is instead of continuing down the path of complaining and boycotting the map, maybe swallow the frustration for a bit longer in hopes that the coming changes will improve our lives. This map should have been in hot-join and tested out before forcing it in ranked play but I think a-net has made it pretty obvious that it is here to stay. So lets look forward to a change for the better in the future instead of dwelling on mistreatment in the past, thats all I am saying

Skyhammer is fun! Only map that actually changes your play style or gives us any chance of different game mode.

kittening yes. Most unbalanced map ever designed, only fun to classes that have an advantage

yes. yes. yes.

Yes. Not every class/build has the type of CC in abundance this maps rewards its unfair. I shouldn’t have to spec for a map that I may or may no get. It would be one thing if we had templates which A-net refuses to give us. The people that like this map play troll builds with pulls etc and get there rocks off getting fall deaths.

I don’t even understand how it was added in the first place. Whoever thought it was fun – ye sure, maybe; could it ever be a competitive map – NO. I lost 50% of my soloq games just because my most played classes are garbage in skyhammer and only recently I started playing skyhammer specs with tons of stability and all that kitten. It’s sad and ridiculous.

Whoever thought a giant laser on a floating platform doing over 9k with KD and no counter(except running outside the HUGE aoe and invulnerable) wasn’t thinking about players. It gets worse when people are so angry with the map that they leave or AFK the entire match leaving the whole thing worthless. It doesn’t belong in any rated game.

Can Skyhammer be a funzies map in a trolly sort of way? Absolutely.

Is Skyhammer fit for any sort of competitive setting? Nope. It has way too much RNG and it’s highly in favour of certain professions and builds. In a competitive setting the players, not the environment, should be the main deciding factor in match outcome.

Skyhammer: stability, knockbacks, fear >> tactics, strategy, skill

I will say, I don’t mind falling but engineer magnetic pull being conveniently a slow-cast spell and pulls you right over the glass that they casted it on, and there’s basically no counter other than stability, it’s pretty GG. At least fear you can cleanse/CC break before you fly off if you have it.

Just make the cannon dodge-able. That being said, yes.

Kagato.4061:

This map gives me cancer.

But seriously, please, remove it.

Huh I thought i was the only one who got super cancer because of this map

Either make the cannon dodgeable, reduce the damage significantly, or just send it to hotjoin.

Knocking people off being addressed helped with the cheesiness, but the cannon is still too important for the outcome of the match.

Yes, remove this abomination. A good tourny night is a night with no Skyhammer pop.

This map pops so often it makes me think Anet wants to drive away their players. Whenever I play hotjoin I end up leaving the game if this map pops and if it pops on a soloQ I log off and play another game.

The hammer is fine.. It does its job. It has a counter play, I don’t get where you think it doesn’t… Unless it was defaulted to the enemy team in your games and not claimable, I’m fairly certain the counter is to take it back…

Yes. If anet played the game they would see everyone hating on it during solo q.

Amstel Steel.2058:

This map pops so often it makes me think Anet wants to drive away their players. Whenever I play hotjoin I end up leaving the game if this map pops and if it pops on a soloQ I log off and play another game.

Lol, that is exactly what I do!

holy kitten yes remove this god dmaned map

Dondt remove it completly, but plz remove it from tournaments.

no. don’t remove it. this is the only map that you can win even with a really bad team composition. it takes skills to win with this map not just running some cheesy builds.

Skyhammer is really fun to play in hotjoin and it needs some few changes to make this map perfectly fine for solo queue and team queue.

I know that a lot of people in my guild definitly love to play on Skyhammer.

Amstel Steel.2058:

This map pops so often it makes me think Anet wants to drive away their players. Whenever I play hotjoin I end up leaving the game if this map pops and if it pops on a soloQ I log off and play another game.

wow! you’re one of those people. i hope anet bans you ASAP.

This map is a fun map..but not very competitive. I say removing from soloQ’s and tournaments.

remove it…

i steal → feared and abused scorpion wire so many times as well as was victim of knocksback/fear countless times on that map

pvp should be about player vs player and not player vs map

if i wanted to do JP pvp i would go to obsidium sanctum, not tpvp

So much QQ about this map. You would think GW2 was the first game ever to use some form of map mechanics in a game the way people act shocked about being knocked off an edge in PVP.

I have a great idea, lets keep all maps flat and take away any standing obstacles, cause line of sight play is not PVP. heavy with the sarcasm

How about more people just learn how other classes work and anticipate that every player is trying to knock you over an edge. Maybe then you would see how easy it can be to avoid it sometimes.

Remove it now. I don’t want to play ping pong. Winning a duel or an entire match cause you can’t dodge4 or 5 knockback in a row is not a l2p issue. it’s simply broken,
Remove it again.

it’s a fun map and I have a lot of fun playing on it, but it’s not ready for competitive play

what would it take?

- a lot bug fixes – I find a new one almost every time I play the map
- cannon area-of-effect decrease – too large for something that can’t be dodged, shave the CD and/or cast time to compensate
- build templates (what ever happened to this being in the pipeline as of last spring?) – most classes require a drastic build change for this map, so why not make it easier to switch?

Vincesco.8340:

Take it as a fun map.
It´s not a tourny map, so stop complaining.
I enjoy it.

ooooooo, someone didnt read the op’s comment. tisk tisk tisk.

on topic: yes, i hate seeing that maps name pop up after the long wait times to get into a tourney match.

Until they remove the breakable platforms and make the cannon evadable, yes.

ronpierce.2760:

I will say, I don’t mind falling but engineer magnetic pull being conveniently a slow-cast spell and pulls you right over the glass that they casted it on, and there’s basically no counter other than stability, it’s pretty GG. At least fear you can cleanse/CC break before you fly off if you have it.

I think it’s the easiest pull to avoid. Just roll after the animation flashes.

I voted yes, it should be removed from tournament rotation. That being said, I think it could be a really solid, tournament-viable map if they made some key changes. It’s actually a relatively fun map when you remove scorpion wire, magnet pull, cheese builds etc.

rsq.3581:

I voted yes, it should be removed from tournament rotation. That being said, I think it could be a really solid, tournament-viable map if they made some key changes. It’s actually a relatively fun map when you remove scorpion wire, magnet pull, cheese builds etc.

Yep. Like making the nodes a bit bigger. And a reduction (or complete removal) of breaking glass panels near cap points. And making Skyhammer dodgeable.

Yes.

A Gazillion times, yes.

I don’t know why this map is still in solo queue. It is evident that the vast majority of players do not enjoy it. You don’t even need to make a poll to know this if you play soloQ. It is the map most players complain about before the match starts.

Gunlaugr.2716:

I don’t know why this map is still in solo queue. It is evident that the vast majority of players do not enjoy it. You don’t even need to make a poll to know this if you play soloQ. It is the map most players complain about before the match starts.

I’m aware of this, but ANet staff wants numbers not just “my conjecture”. So this poll is to show them the bloody numbers and hopefully we can get it removed from solo queue for good.

Even after the changes, it should only be put in hotjoins.

Hmm. Skyhammer is my favourite map.
But I can see how it is “unfair” without Build Templates.