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Posted by: that baby stealing dingo.7216

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I don’t know how other MMOs do this, but do vanilla game owners absolutely have to face off against expac owners? I haven’t purchased HoT and have no plans to; it really doesn’t have much that I want. Is it possible for vanilla game owners to square off only against other vanilla game owners?

I don’t want any free content – keep your expac. But it seems as though it would level the playing field a bit if vanilla players didn’t have to fight against teams of reapers, DHs, etc.

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Posted by: Ario.8964

Ario.8964

While it does make sense that way I think anet is looking at it in the other way which is “If they’ve payed for the content and the extra builds for their classes then they should be able to press those advantages”

That said I don’t see many vanilla players in pvp so I have no idea how common of a problem it is and whether or not they have placed something into the matchmaking to help with that situation.

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Posted by: that baby stealing dingo.7216

that baby stealing dingo.7216

While it does make sense that way I think anet is looking at it in the other way which is “If they’ve payed for the content and the extra builds for their classes then they should be able to press those advantages”

That said I don’t see many vanilla players in pvp so I have no idea how common of a problem it is and whether or not they have placed something into the matchmaking to help with that situation.

Yeah I’m really not sure what Anet’s ultimate PvP goal is to be honest. I know some vanilla builds have translated fairly well into the new meta but the general consensus seems to be that expac builds are simply more powerful. It feels like I’m being punished for not buying the expac.

But if their goal is to let expac owners feast on players like me (players who paid 60$ for the original game and who have spent money in the gem store to boot) then eventually I will stop playing PvP. I sure as heck won’t spend more in the gem store. I don’t see how that helps Anet.

There are quite a few vanilla players in PvP still (from what I’ve seen), but you won’t see them that often if your MMR is much higher. You’ll see more chronomancers, Dhs, etc.

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Posted by: TheGuy.3568

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Post like this remind me what the real issue is. Bad players. No question about it. For the record I have the expansion but I have been playing the same mesmer build for the last 5 or 6 months. I have not touched and likely will not touch Chrono in pvp for some time. I have never felt the angst of dealing with DH and reaper because after a few losses during beta I realized how they work. Think about that a sec. I realized how they work and I didn’t even bother to change my traits.

I am not bragging or anything even remotely like that. I see other players every day with several thousand games playing core classes wiping the floor with the new builds. It’s not that they aren’t strong but that players refuse to grow and learn counters.

The saddest part is the game is dumbed down even further now. Most players run the same exact build. So countering a chrono, DH, or reaper is more playing by numbers. There are no tricks. You know what they are going to do and when they are going to do it.

The sense of entitlement here is actually quite funny. It goes something lie this. I have played this game for 3 years. I am a pvp vet. However, I have not bought the expansion and can not beat the new builds with my core build. They must be very OP because I am losing to them!

Most of the suggestions made on these forums are illogical and solely exist to vent frustration. The posters know the ideas have nearly no chance of implementation yet they utter the words in order to express anger.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

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Why would they do that? They want you facing HoT players as much as possible so you get beat, thus encouraging you to buy HoT. Classic P2W tatics.