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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

Curious what the consensus currently is among the forum:

Do you think the next patch (after Dec 10th) should be primarily focusing on beefing up professions to balance out the game, or primarily focus on toning down professions to balance out the game?

So, I created a poll:

http://poll.pollcode.com/783922

All opinions are welcome. No flames or trolls, or flaming trolls, please.

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

Tone down.

We’ve had far too much power creep in 2013 with conditions.
Burning added to Necro, Torment added to 4 professions, Terror damage too high, passive proc builds made strong and Weakness buffed too far.

All to try and make condition damage more viable in PvE, while completely ruining the balance of PvP by making conditions dominate everything.

The game is spiraling out of control with condition application everywhere, across AoEs, auto-attacks and worst of all high damage Burning from trait procs.
Gone are the thoughtful condition builds, with tactical application of conditions and condition removal, it’s just become a spamfest.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

Flumek.9043

From top to bottom of food chain:

-tone down sustain of warior
-make spirits weak in teamfights… should be around necro minions level… either less HP or make them not movable
-necro give bleeds back ( its my main i know ) but remove burn . Engie same, make them use actual flamthrower for burns
- s/d thief evading
-mesmer/ele burst too instant

bunker guard ok, if al else is really toned down maybe them too to not have bunker wars again, just dont buff their dps much more..

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

Devs are always more inclined to buff, because players like reading about buffs more than nerfs.

But I agree with Ezrael. MMOs especially have constant power creep. Not only via gear, but also players are getting better and more efficient.

Nerfing is a far healthier approach in such an environment as it’s much easier to predict. It also makes it easier to buff specific underutilized skills without throwing the entire class out of balance.

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

This is an interesting discussion.

I agree with Dee Jay (SFII reference ftw): buffing is generally an easier pill to swallow. That doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do.

Edit: Also, BACON!

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

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So far the poll is indicating players are more in favor of nerfs than more buffs.

Interesting indeed!

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Posted by: garethh.3518

garethh.3518

The game is a mess balanced around extremes.
People seem to only be floundering around S/TPvP until a new MMO comes out.

If anyone wants that change, ask for Anet to buff or nerf the kitten out of random kitten, keep tossing out and around skills people QQ about for entirely new ones, idc, something large has to happen for how people look at this game to change.
There isn’t much room for the game to fall further so there’s nothing to lose from the attempt.

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Posted by: Aereniel.7356

Aereniel.7356

Nerfs, definitely. There are several layers of overpoweredness that should be shed. Less damage, less AoE, less passive procs, less dodging. I’d like things such as timing and skillshots to matter – like dodging big hits, for example. Now you just spam stuff when it’s off cooldown without even looking at the other guy’s animations. It’s been this way since the Dhuumfire patch, pretty much. Well-trodden ground on the forums.

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

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Not a big turnout in the poll thus far, however the results show players are 2-to-1 in favor of toning down the efficacy of the professions in the game as they stand today.

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Posted by: kito.1827

kito.1827

So far the poll is indicating players are more in favor of nerfs than more buffs.

Interesting indeed!

thats easy explained: everyone wants the others to get nerfed.
as far as someone has to be the others, there will be QQ anyways

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